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>Better than teaching man-on-boy anal to six-year-olds in your government
>school system.

Sounds like standard Red State Conservative schooling, or it could be from
church. Rightists like you are sodomized by their parents every day.

Rightists and the Baptist Church in America believe in having sex with
children.

Southern Baptist members detail alleged grooming, sexual misconduct among
clergy in new report
"There are plenty of reasons to stay silent in a situation such as this.
But we must not be silent," one sex abuse survivor said.
Southern Baptist Convention leaders mishandled abuse allegations, report
finds
By Erik Ortiz

In the summer of 2010, a pastor and his wife at First Baptist Church in
Woodstock, Georgia, said they received an invite to vacation in Florida
with Johnny Hunt, a senior pastor of their church whom they considered a
mentor.

The 55-year-old church leader had been elected national president of the
Southern Baptist Convention two years earlier, making him one of the most
powerful members of the largest denomination of Protestants in the U.S.

Hunt allegedly helped to book them a place in Panama City Beach that,
unbeknownst to them, was directly beside his unit in the same condo
complex, the unnamed young couple said in a 288-page blockbuster
investigative report released Sunday by the Southern Baptist Convention.
When the pastor�s wife arrived alone after a day out, she said she was
greeted by Hunt, and they interacted from their respective balconies.

But when she invited him inside her condo to escape the heat and continue
their conversation, during which she said she opened up about the stress
she and her husband were under at the church, he became aggressive, she
said to investigators, as detailed in the report. According to her, he
pulled down her shorts, made sexual remarks about her body, and then pinned
her to the couch and pulled up her shirt. She said in the report that he
groped her and sexually assaulted her with his hands and mouth.

Moments later, she said in the report, Hunt � who is married with two adult
daughters close to her age � texted her to come out to her balcony to
discuss what had happened. Instead of an apology, she said, he made a
proposition that they have sex three times a day.
Johnny Hunt

Hunt did not immediately return a request for comment Monday about the
allegations, but in a statement posted on Twitter following the report�s
release, he denied its contents while also saying he had not yet read the
findings in their entirety.

�To put it bluntly: I vigorously deny the circumstances and
characterizations set forth in the Guidepost report. I have never abused
anybody,� he wrote.

The report detailed widespread allegations of sexual misconduct among named
clergy and a cover-up involving the upper echelons of the Southern Baptist
Convention.

The denomination's executive committee contracted an outside firm,
Guidepost Solutions, an independent consultant that conducts investigations
on behalf of faith-based organizations, to launch an inquiry after
delegates voted overwhelmingly for one last summer.

In its wake, Ronnie Floyd, a Southern Baptist Convention president from
2014 to 2016, resigned in October as head of the executive committee.

The report also goes over several reforms the church could implement,
including creating and maintaining an �Offender Information System� to
alert the community to alleged offenders, and restricting the use of
nondisclosure agreements and civil settlements that bind accusers to
confidentiality in sexual abuse matters.

A church task force will present its own recommendations based on the
report during its annual meeting next month in Anaheim, California.
Southern Baptist Convention
Attendees worship during the Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting in
Phoenix in 2017.Matt York / AP file

Already, the reaction from some prominent leaders of the Southern Baptist
Convention and followers has centered on a demand for sweeping changes that
ensure the accused are not protected and the abused are not silenced.

�What was published is heartbreaking, with some parts just horrifying,�
tweeted J.D. Greear, a North Carolina pastor and Southern Baptist
Convention president from 2018 to 2021 who has spoken in support of sex
abuse victims. �We have no choice but to learn from our past and change the
future.�

In response to the report, current Southern Baptist Convention President Ed
Litton said in a statement Sunday that there �are not adequate words to
express my sorrow at the things revealed in this report� and that Southern
Baptists �must resolve to change our culture and implement desperately
needed reforms.�

Litton could not be reached Monday for further comment.

Another leader of the denomination, Kevin Ezell, the president of the
Southern Baptist Convention�s North American Mission Board, said he was
unaware of any misconduct allegations against Hunt, who resigned from a
leadership position with the board more than a week ago.

�I learned the details of the report today along with the rest of our
Southern Baptist family,� Ezell said, adding that the details in the report
are �egregious and deeply disturbing.�

He said he declined to speak publicly about Hunt�s resignation until after
the Guidepost report was released �out of respect for the investigation.�

Neither the woman who accused Hunt of misconduct nor her pastor husband
were named in the Guidepost report, which comes after a 2019 investigation
by the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News documenting two
decades worth of cases, in which pastors and deacons in Southern Baptist
churches allegedly abused hundreds of people while for the most part
remaining in their posts. In response to the newspapers� report, church
leaders pledged to protect victims and bring about change.

According to Guidepost investigators, Hunt gave an �unusual amount of
attention� to the pastor�s wife while at the church and �groomed the couple
with flattery and promises of help in ministry.�

The investigators said they interviewed other witnesses who helped
corroborate the pastor and his wife�s allegations, including a counseling
minister at First Baptist Church who confirmed being present for a session
between Hunt and the couple, during which, he said, Hunt admitted to the
woman�s husband that he sexually assaulted her. At that meeting, the couple
also said Hunt stated, �Thank God I didn�t consummate the relationship,�
according to the report.

Hunt also did not immediately respond to a request for comment about their
accusations.

The alleged �survivor states that at the time she believed that, even
though she did not consent to what Dr. Hunt did to her, she was made to
feel it was consensual because she did not fight back,� the report said.

In addition, Guidepost investigators said the counseling minister told them
that he remembered Hunt saying that �if this (story) got out, it could
negatively impact 40,000 churches.�

The investigators said they interviewed Hunt twice, and during the second
occasion he acknowledged he had known the younger pastor and considered
himself a �strong influence� on his life. Initially, investigators said,
Hunt did not recall spending any personal time with the couple nor inviting
them to Panama City Beach but later remembered seeing the pastor�s wife on
the neighboring balcony but had �no contact whatsoever.�

�He also restated that it was not true that he was on the balcony or in the
condo,� the report said. �When asked specifically about whether he kissed
her, pulled at her shorts, or fondled her, he said no. He denied sexualized
comments about her appearance, panties, tan lines, or perfume.�

The Guidepost report goes on to mention other cases in which church leaders
are accused of concealing wrongdoing. They include top leaders at
Prestonwood Baptist Church in suburban Dallas, one of the largest churches
in the country, allegedly protecting a music director accused of abuse in
the 1980s and failing to notify police.

The music minister, John Langworthy, was �quietly fired� and moved to
Mississippi, �where, in 2011, he confessed to his congregation at Morrison
Heights Baptist Church in Clinton that he had committed �sexual
indiscretions� with teenage boys during his time at Prestonwood and before
when he was in Mississippi,� according to the report.
John Langworthy
Former Clinton High School choir director and music minister John
Langworthy and his wife, Kathy, walk into a courtroom in Jackson, Miss., in
2013.Rick Guy / AP file

Langworthy pleaded guilty to five counts of gratification of lust related
to incidents in Mississippi from 1980 to 1984 and was sentenced in 2013 to
a total of 50 years but avoided prison under a plea deal. He died in 2019.

In a statement, Prestonwood Baptist denied how the Guidepost report
characterized the situation and said the church has �never protected or
supported abusers, in 1989 or since.�

Throughout the report, churchgoers who say they were abused by clergy at
various Southern Baptist churches across the country told investigators how
they were repeatedly stonewalled in their efforts to be heard.

Jennifer Lyell, a former executive at a Christian media publishing company
who came forward publicly in 2019 about sexual abuse, was described in the
report as saying she had later been subject to harassment by fellow
churchgoers, with some calling her a �whore� and �bitter jealous woman.�

Lyell said she was a student at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary when
the abuse began, and she decided to speak out after learning the man she
accused of abuse had returned to ministry.

The seminary's president, Albert Mohler, said in a statement that he was
aware the Guidepost report would include information about Lyell's
accusations against a faculty member.

"From the beginning we were prepared and determined to assist the
investigators in any way possible and to support their work," Mohler said.
"What happened to Jennifer was sexual abuse, unquestionably. The release of
the report is the beginning and not the end of our challenge as a
convention of churches."

"The real test for Southern Baptists is in how we deal with these sins," he
added, "now that they have been exposed and are in the light."

Legal counsel for the Southern Baptist Convention's executive committee
told The Associated Press in February that the body apologized to Lyell
earlier this year and gave her a confidential monetary settlement related
to how it handled her case.

But Lyell tweeted Monday that there must be further accountability for all.

�There are plenty of reasons to stay silent in a situation such as this,�
Lyell said, according to the report. �But we must not be silent.�
Erik Ortiz

Erik Ortiz is a senior reporter for NBC News Digital focusing on racial
injustice and social inequality.

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