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Subject: Re: The Moral Collapse of Cringe-Worthy Bootlicker J. D. Vance
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On 7/20/2024 8:37 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <4LZmO.148331$SLqf.64090@fx15.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 7/20/2024 4:54 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <aiWmO.157601$ySE.127431@fx11.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2024 2:26 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <E1VmO.140475$sE%9.9431@fx14.iad>,
>>>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/20/2024 1:18 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <v7h2as$3lp2j$5@dont-email.me>, X@Y.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Moral Collapse of J. D. Vance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of a truth-teller in his own community, Vance as a candidate has
>>>>>>>> become a contemptible and cringe-inducing clown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do we call a man who turns on everything he once claimed to believe?
>>>>>>>> For a practitioner of petty and self-serving duplicity, we use ?sellout? or
>>>>>>>> ?backstabber.? (Sometimes we impugn the animal kingdom and call him a rat,
>>>>>>>> a skunk, or a weasel.) For grand betrayals of weightier loyalties?country
>>>>>>>> and faith?we invoke the more solemn terms of ?traitor? or ?apostate.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But what should we call J. D. Vance, the self-described hillbilly turned
>>>>>>>> Marine turned Ivy League law-school graduate turned venture capitalist
>>>>>>>> turned Senate candidate? Words fail. His perfidy to his own people in Ohio
>>>>>>>> is too big to allow him to escape with the label of ?opportunist,? and yet
>>>>>>>> the shabbiness and absurdity of his Senate campaign is too small to brand
>>>>>>>> him a defector or a heretic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My friend Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District
>>>>>>>> of New York, tried to describe Vance recently and came up with ?pathetic
>>>>>>>> loser poser fake jerk,? but that is a lot of words. To distill the essence
>>>>>>>> of Vance as a public figure, the word that enters my mind is an anatomical
>>>>>>>> reference beginning with the letter a.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not use that word lightly or comfortably. I am, in the formal sense, a
>>>>>>>> man of letters. I have been an officer of instruction at several
>>>>>>>> institutions of higher education (and I remind you here that I do not
>>>>>>>> represent any of them and speak only for myself). I would not advise my
>>>>>>>> students to use the term.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the word is apt when I consider Vance?s silly and yet detestable moral
>>>>>>>> collapse. Some people back in Vance?s home region of Appalachia thought his
>>>>>>>> memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, was hollow and inaccurate, but for a time, other
>>>>>>>> people?including me?were intrigued by his writing and public speaking.
>>>>>>>> Vance lived as a child in a steel town in Ohio and spent his summers in the
>>>>>>>> hills of eastern Kentucky, while I grew up amid the rotting factories of
>>>>>>>> New England, solidly in the working class but not poor. I welcomed his
>>>>>>>> willingness to cast a critical eye on his (and my) people, especially after
>>>>>>>> years of conservative hand-wringing focused solely on the dysfunction of
>>>>>>>> minority communities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vance gained early support in the political center, particularly among
>>>>>>>> conservatives. The American working poor, no matter where they are, do in
>>>>>>>> fact need civic representatives from the center-right, people who can talk
>>>>>>>> candidly about the limits of government and who can make a moral case for
>>>>>>>> tough love and personal responsibility, but one based on a sense of shared
>>>>>>>> experience, common values, and genuine compassion. Someone like Vance could
>>>>>>>> be that candidate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cassie Chambers Armstrong: ?Hillbilly Elegy? doesn?t reflect the Appalachia
>>>>>>>> I know
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Someone like Vance, perhaps, but as we now know, not Vance himself. Not so
>>>>>>>> long ago, he talked about the self-defeating bias against education among
>>>>>>>> poor whites. He acknowledged the self-destructive habits of some of the
>>>>>>>> people he grew up around. Vance wrote, in this very magazine, that Donald
>>>>>>>> Trump ?is cultural heroin??a powerful charge from someone who hails from
>>>>>>>> the epicenter of the opioid epidemic?and provided a ?quick high? that could
>>>>>>>> not fix what ails the country. All of that vanished once Vance decided he
>>>>>>>> wanted to go to Washington?and after the Trump supporter Peter Thiel
>>>>>>>> dropped $10 million into a political action committee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of a truth-teller in his own community, Vance as a candidate has
>>>>>>>> become a contemptible and cringe-inducing clown. His attempts at
>>>>>>>> authenticity are so grating because they are so blatantly artificial. His
>>>>>>>> recent tweets, for example, attempting to ingratiate himself with rural
>>>>>>>> Ohioans by slagging New York City were embarrassingly amateurish; we can
>>>>>>>> only wonder which social-media consultant thought them up. ?Serious
>>>>>>>> question,? Vance tweeted. ?I have to go to New York soon and I?m trying to
>>>>>>>> figure out where to stay. I have heard it?s disgusting and violent there.
>>>>>>>> But is it like Walking Dead Season 1 or Season 4??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When the Republican commentator Liz Mair called him on this inane fear-
>>>>>>>> mongering, he responded that ?these people??which is everyone but him, one
>>>>>>>> assumes?have no sense of humor about what he claimed was only a joke.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again, this is why a certain word immediately springs to mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Worse, Vance has not only repudiated his earlier views on Trump, but has
>>>>>>>> done so with ruthless cynicism, embracing the former president and his
>>>>>>>> madness while winking at the media with a What can you do? shrug about the
>>>>>>>> stupidity of Ohio?s voters. ?If I actually care about these people and the
>>>>>>>> things I say I care about,? he told Time, ?I need to just suck it up and
>>>>>>>> support him.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well. One can only imagine their gratitude now that Vance the wealthy
>>>>>>>> venture capitalist has deigned to accept Trump as his political savior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Read: Ohio is now fully Trumpified
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These incidents are not isolated missteps. The writer Tim Miller recently
>>>>>>>> noted in The Bulwark that within the space of a week, Vance not only
>>>>>>>> tweeted his performative fear of New York, but also ?defended a Nazi from
>>>>>>>> being kicked off of twitter ? shared a thread defending election fraud
>>>>>>>> conspiracies ? fantastically claimed Google was ?hiding? his website? and
>>>>>>>> ?mocked reporters for saying they were traumatized by the Capitol riot.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vance?s rhetoric is even worse than Miller?s description. For example,
>>>>>>>> Vance minimized Nick Fuentes, the leader of a white-nationalist group, by
>>>>>>>> referring to him merely as ?a giant troll? who should not have been kicked
>>>>>>>> off Twitter by one of the ?tech companies? that want to ?control what we?re
>>>>>>>> allowed to say in our own country.? And, more recently, he ventured onto
>>>>>>>> the former Trump adviser Sebastian Gorka?s crackpot videocast to claim that
>>>>>>>> the ?Democrat? Party?a usage common among educated right-wingers trying for
>>>>>>>> working-class cred??is a party of childless people? who therefore do not
>>>>>>>> value the future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vance has struck back at his many critics across the political spectrum by
>>>>>>>> referring to them all as ?degenerate liberals,? which is exactly the kind
>>>>>>>> of thing a smarmy and pretentious asshole would say.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I apologize. I had hoped to avoid the word, but nothing else will do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In fairness, Vance is hardly the most offensive Republican out there. He is
>>>>>>>> no Louie Gohmert, the Republican congressman from Texas, or Marsha
>>>>>>>> Blackburn, the senior Republican senator from Tennessee, people who create
>>>>>>>> an electrostatic field of stupidity around themselves when they speak. Nor
>>>>>>>> is he even the most craven candidate in Ohio; his primary rival Josh Mandel
>>>>>>>> recently filmed himself burning a surgical mask in the name of freedom. The
>>>>>>>> Republican Party is chock-full of such performative buffoons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But what makes Vance so awful is that he knows better. His intentional
>>>>>>>> distancing from his earlier views shows that he is fully cognizant of what
>>>>>>>> a gigantic fraud he?s become.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suspect that Vance is also reading his own press, which would explain why
>>>>>>>> a young man who attained early fame is convinced that he can jump right to
>>>>>>>> national office. Take, for example, the Trump-friendly columnist Henry
>>>>>>>> Olsen of The Washington Post, who wrote that Vance scares America?s elites
>>>>>>>> because ?he hasn?t surrendered his mind to polls or to the donor class in
>>>>>>>> an effort to fit in.?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But following the polls and capering to a jig played by rich donors is
>>>>>>>> exactly what Vance is doing. His gooberish tweets, his recent declaration
>>>>>>>> that the most important issue for Ohio is securing the southern border, his
>>>>>>>> multimillion-dollar support from ?ordinary folks? like Thiel?these all show
>>>>>>>> that Vance is as mossy a creature as the swamp ever produced.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This hypocrisy makes him indistinguishable from other figures in American
>>>>>>>> politics, such as Senators Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley, who are products of
>>>>>>>> privilege and elite education and who now pretend to be tribunes of the
>>>>>>>> Forgotten People. (Vance, predictably enough, has recently expressed his
>>>>>>>> admiration for both.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vance, so far, is less of a hazard to American democracy than aspiring
>>>>>>>> authoritarians like Cotton or Hawley. Nor does he seem to have developed
>>>>>>>> the full dedication to being a soulless careerist like Elise Stefanik, the
>>>>>>>> Republican congresswoman from New York. Mostly, he?s just a ? well, you
>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of a candidate who?s willing to speak hard truths to his people,
>>>>>>>> Ohioans now have a native son who has returned to weaponize their
>>>>>>>> resentment and cultural dysfunctions. His ambition is fueled by the money
>>>>>>>> of others who would never deign to live in the Midwest. And like other
>>>>>>>> populist charlatans, he has convinced himself that he should be anointed to
>>>>>>>> lead the rubes out of their misery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He admitted he was wrong and manly [sic] admitted to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He admitted nothing. "Manly" is not an adverb, ever. It is only an adjective.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's whatever I say it is.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. "Manly" is not an adverb, ever. It's an adjective, and it's an adjective
>>>> that is *never* applied to you.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's
>>
>> "Manly" is not an adverb. You cannot "manly" do something. You, of course, being
>> a squat-to-piss fairy, could not do anything in a *manly* (adjective) manner
>> even if you wanted to.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Vance did not "admit" to anything. Most importantly, he did not admit to being a
>>>> fraudulent "hillbilly," which is what he is.
>>>
>>> He admitted to
>>
>> That faggot admitted to nothing, and Vance is not manly.
>
> He did,

He didn't.

> I saw and heard it.

No, you didn't. You basically claim you see and hear everything, but 99% of what
you claim to have seen and heard was not broadcast. You're making shit up.

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