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Subject: Re: The Moral Collapse of Cringe-Worthy Bootlicker J. D. Vance
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On 7/20/2024 4:54 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <aiWmO.157601$ySE.127431@fx11.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 7/20/2024 2:26 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <E1VmO.140475$sE%9.9431@fx14.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2024 1:18 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <v7h2as$3lp2j$5@dont-email.me>, X@Y.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Moral Collapse of J. D. Vance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of a truth-teller in his own community, Vance as a candidate has
>>>>>> become a contemptible and cringe-inducing clown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do we call a man who turns on everything he once claimed to believe?
>>>>>> For a practitioner of petty and self-serving duplicity, we use ?sellout? or
>>>>>> ?backstabber.? (Sometimes we impugn the animal kingdom and call him a rat,
>>>>>> a skunk, or a weasel.) For grand betrayals of weightier loyalties?country
>>>>>> and faith?we invoke the more solemn terms of ?traitor? or ?apostate.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But what should we call J. D. Vance, the self-described hillbilly turned
>>>>>> Marine turned Ivy League law-school graduate turned venture capitalist
>>>>>> turned Senate candidate? Words fail. His perfidy to his own people in Ohio
>>>>>> is too big to allow him to escape with the label of ?opportunist,? and yet
>>>>>> the shabbiness and absurdity of his Senate campaign is too small to brand
>>>>>> him a defector or a heretic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My friend Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District
>>>>>> of New York, tried to describe Vance recently and came up with ?pathetic
>>>>>> loser poser fake jerk,? but that is a lot of words. To distill the essence
>>>>>> of Vance as a public figure, the word that enters my mind is an anatomical
>>>>>> reference beginning with the letter a.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not use that word lightly or comfortably. I am, in the formal sense, a
>>>>>> man of letters. I have been an officer of instruction at several
>>>>>> institutions of higher education (and I remind you here that I do not
>>>>>> represent any of them and speak only for myself). I would not advise my
>>>>>> students to use the term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the word is apt when I consider Vance?s silly and yet detestable moral
>>>>>> collapse. Some people back in Vance?s home region of Appalachia thought his
>>>>>> memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, was hollow and inaccurate, but for a time, other
>>>>>> people?including me?were intrigued by his writing and public speaking.
>>>>>> Vance lived as a child in a steel town in Ohio and spent his summers in the
>>>>>> hills of eastern Kentucky, while I grew up amid the rotting factories of
>>>>>> New England, solidly in the working class but not poor. I welcomed his
>>>>>> willingness to cast a critical eye on his (and my) people, especially after
>>>>>> years of conservative hand-wringing focused solely on the dysfunction of
>>>>>> minority communities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vance gained early support in the political center, particularly among
>>>>>> conservatives. The American working poor, no matter where they are, do in
>>>>>> fact need civic representatives from the center-right, people who can talk
>>>>>> candidly about the limits of government and who can make a moral case for
>>>>>> tough love and personal responsibility, but one based on a sense of shared
>>>>>> experience, common values, and genuine compassion. Someone like Vance could
>>>>>> be that candidate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cassie Chambers Armstrong: ?Hillbilly Elegy? doesn?t reflect the Appalachia
>>>>>> I know
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone like Vance, perhaps, but as we now know, not Vance himself. Not so
>>>>>> long ago, he talked about the self-defeating bias against education among
>>>>>> poor whites. He acknowledged the self-destructive habits of some of the
>>>>>> people he grew up around. Vance wrote, in this very magazine, that Donald
>>>>>> Trump ?is cultural heroin??a powerful charge from someone who hails from
>>>>>> the epicenter of the opioid epidemic?and provided a ?quick high? that could
>>>>>> not fix what ails the country. All of that vanished once Vance decided he
>>>>>> wanted to go to Washington?and after the Trump supporter Peter Thiel
>>>>>> dropped $10 million into a political action committee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of a truth-teller in his own community, Vance as a candidate has
>>>>>> become a contemptible and cringe-inducing clown. His attempts at
>>>>>> authenticity are so grating because they are so blatantly artificial. His
>>>>>> recent tweets, for example, attempting to ingratiate himself with rural
>>>>>> Ohioans by slagging New York City were embarrassingly amateurish; we can
>>>>>> only wonder which social-media consultant thought them up. ?Serious
>>>>>> question,? Vance tweeted. ?I have to go to New York soon and I?m trying to
>>>>>> figure out where to stay. I have heard it?s disgusting and violent there.
>>>>>> But is it like Walking Dead Season 1 or Season 4??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the Republican commentator Liz Mair called him on this inane fear-
>>>>>> mongering, he responded that ?these people??which is everyone but him, one
>>>>>> assumes?have no sense of humor about what he claimed was only a joke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, this is why a certain word immediately springs to mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Worse, Vance has not only repudiated his earlier views on Trump, but has
>>>>>> done so with ruthless cynicism, embracing the former president and his
>>>>>> madness while winking at the media with a What can you do? shrug about the
>>>>>> stupidity of Ohio?s voters. ?If I actually care about these people and the
>>>>>> things I say I care about,? he told Time, ?I need to just suck it up and
>>>>>> support him.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well. One can only imagine their gratitude now that Vance the wealthy
>>>>>> venture capitalist has deigned to accept Trump as his political savior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read: Ohio is now fully Trumpified
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These incidents are not isolated missteps. The writer Tim Miller recently
>>>>>> noted in The Bulwark that within the space of a week, Vance not only
>>>>>> tweeted his performative fear of New York, but also ?defended a Nazi from
>>>>>> being kicked off of twitter ? shared a thread defending election fraud
>>>>>> conspiracies ? fantastically claimed Google was ?hiding? his website? and
>>>>>> ?mocked reporters for saying they were traumatized by the Capitol riot.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vance?s rhetoric is even worse than Miller?s description. For example,
>>>>>> Vance minimized Nick Fuentes, the leader of a white-nationalist group, by
>>>>>> referring to him merely as ?a giant troll? who should not have been kicked
>>>>>> off Twitter by one of the ?tech companies? that want to ?control what we?re
>>>>>> allowed to say in our own country.? And, more recently, he ventured onto
>>>>>> the former Trump adviser Sebastian Gorka?s crackpot videocast to claim that
>>>>>> the ?Democrat? Party?a usage common among educated right-wingers trying for
>>>>>> working-class cred??is a party of childless people? who therefore do not
>>>>>> value the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vance has struck back at his many critics across the political spectrum by
>>>>>> referring to them all as ?degenerate liberals,? which is exactly the kind
>>>>>> of thing a smarmy and pretentious asshole would say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologize. I had hoped to avoid the word, but nothing else will do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fairness, Vance is hardly the most offensive Republican out there. He is
>>>>>> no Louie Gohmert, the Republican congressman from Texas, or Marsha
>>>>>> Blackburn, the senior Republican senator from Tennessee, people who create
>>>>>> an electrostatic field of stupidity around themselves when they speak. Nor
>>>>>> is he even the most craven candidate in Ohio; his primary rival Josh Mandel
>>>>>> recently filmed himself burning a surgical mask in the name of freedom. The
>>>>>> Republican Party is chock-full of such performative buffoons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But what makes Vance so awful is that he knows better. His intentional
>>>>>> distancing from his earlier views shows that he is fully cognizant of what
>>>>>> a gigantic fraud he?s become.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that Vance is also reading his own press, which would explain why
>>>>>> a young man who attained early fame is convinced that he can jump right to
>>>>>> national office. Take, for example, the Trump-friendly columnist Henry
>>>>>> Olsen of The Washington Post, who wrote that Vance scares America?s elites
>>>>>> because ?he hasn?t surrendered his mind to polls or to the donor class in
>>>>>> an effort to fit in.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But following the polls and capering to a jig played by rich donors is
>>>>>> exactly what Vance is doing. His gooberish tweets, his recent declaration
>>>>>> that the most important issue for Ohio is securing the southern border, his
>>>>>> multimillion-dollar support from ?ordinary folks? like Thiel?these all show
>>>>>> that Vance is as mossy a creature as the swamp ever produced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This hypocrisy makes him indistinguishable from other figures in American
>>>>>> politics, such as Senators Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley, who are products of
>>>>>> privilege and elite education and who now pretend to be tribunes of the
>>>>>> Forgotten People. (Vance, predictably enough, has recently expressed his
>>>>>> admiration for both.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vance, so far, is less of a hazard to American democracy than aspiring
>>>>>> authoritarians like Cotton or Hawley. Nor does he seem to have developed
>>>>>> the full dedication to being a soulless careerist like Elise Stefanik, the
>>>>>> Republican congresswoman from New York. Mostly, he?s just a ? well, you
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead of a candidate who?s willing to speak hard truths to his people,
>>>>>> Ohioans now have a native son who has returned to weaponize their
>>>>>> resentment and cultural dysfunctions. His ambition is fueled by the money
>>>>>> of others who would never deign to live in the Midwest. And like other
>>>>>> populist charlatans, he has convinced himself that he should be anointed to
>>>>>> lead the rubes out of their misery.
>>>>>
>>>>> He admitted he was wrong and manly [sic] admitted to it.
>>>>
>>>> He admitted nothing. "Manly" is not an adverb, ever. It is only an adjective.
>>>
>>> It's whatever I say it is.
>>
>> Nope. "Manly" is not an adverb, ever. It's an adjective, and it's an adjective
>> that is *never* applied to you.
>
>
> It's

"Manly" is not an adverb. You cannot "manly" do something. You, of course, being
a squat-to-piss fairy, could not do anything in a *manly* (adjective) manner
even if you wanted to.

>>
>> Vance did not "admit" to anything. Most importantly, he did not admit to being a
>> fraudulent "hillbilly," which is what he is.
>
> He admitted to

That faggot admitted to nothing, and Vance is not manly.

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