On 7/05/2024 11:31 pm, ChristRose wrote:
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> On Tue, 07 May 2024 00:25:08 -0700,
> Article:<0001HW.2BEA0ED40016301A3077E038F@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Robert wrote:
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> Michael wrote:
>
>> I didn't say there was no hell. However, I have and still entertain that
>>> possibility that God will save all. The Lord hasn't spoken to me yet
>>> about that,
>
>
> Of course the Lord hasn't spoken to you
> about it. It's because your father and
> lord Satan told you to put your Bible
> down and walk away from it, and you
> listened to him. This cut you off from
> the means by which God gives specific
> revelation to people in our day. The
> Bible is clear on the matter:
>
> ““Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is
> the gate and broad is the way that leads
> to destruction, and there are many who
> go in by it.” (Matthew 7:13, NKJV)
>
> [Nope. No universal salvation in that
> verse. Not only will all people not be
> saved from eternal damnation, but it
> directly states that most people will
> not be saved.]
>
> “since it is a righteous thing with God
> to repay with tribulation those who
> trouble you, and to give you who are
> troubled rest with us when the Lord
> Jesus is revealed from heaven with His
> mighty angels, in flaming fire taking
> vengeance on those who do not know God,
> and on those who do not obey the gospel
> of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be
> punished with everlasting destruction
> from the presence of the Lord and from
> the glory of His power,” (2
> Thessalonians 1:6–9, NKJV)
>
> [Wow. That doesn't look to me like all
> men are going to be saved. It looks like
> it's only those who obey the gospel of
> our Lord Jesus Christ who will be saved,
> and that the rest will be punished with
> "everlasting destruction".]
>
> “Then I saw a great white throne and Him
> who sat on it, from whose face the earth
> and the heaven fled away. And there was
> found no place for them. And I saw the
> dead, small and great, standing before
> God, and books were opened. And another
> book was opened, which is the Book of
> Life. And the dead were judged according
> to their works, by the things which were
> written in the books. The sea gave up
> the dead who were in it, and Death and
> Hades delivered up the dead who were in
> them. And they were judged, each one
> according to his works. Then Death and
> Hades were cast into the lake of fire.
> This is the second death. And anyone not
> found written in the Book of Life was
> cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation
> 20:11–15, NKJV)
>
> [Well, looks like anyone whose name was
> not found written in the Book of Life
> was cast into the lake of fire.]
>
> So yeah, there will be no universal
> salvation. Most will be lost.
>
>
>> but He did raise the thought.
>
>
> Maybe if your lord is Satan. God
> wouldn't raise a thought in you which is
> contrary to what His word reveals. But
> by all means, go on believing your
> self-and-Satanic delusions, like Chung,
> who thinks that every time an idea pops
> into his head, it's a revelation from
> the "Holy Spirit", even though it
> contradicts the plain statements of
> Scripture.
>
>
>> Anyway, as your club states,
>
>
> You're no one to talk about a "club",
> you self-and-Satan deceived and damned
> hypocrite. You manufacture your own
> religion club on a daily basis, where
> you claim every idea that pops into your
> head comes from the "Holy Spirit", while
> you ignore and contradict what the Holy
> Spirit inspired Bible says about it.
>
> Why, you're the only one on earth who is
> saved and who never sins even a single
> time, and everyone else who admits they
> have a sin nature, but confess their
> sins to God and rely on Christ's
> propitiating atonement (1 John 1:8-2:2)
> is damned to hell, contrary to what the
> Bible teaches.
>
>
>> all men are sinners, why then choose one and not another?
>
>
> Read Romans 9. It is to demonstrate His
> sovereignty in the matter, so that men
> cannot boast about their works, and so
> God will retain all the glory:
>
> “And not only this, but when Rebecca
> also had conceived by one man, even by
> our father Isaac (for the children not
> yet being born, nor having done any good
> or evil, that the purpose of God
> according to election might stand, not
> of works but of Him who calls), it was
> said to her, “The older shall serve the
> younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I
> have loved, but Esau I have hated.””
> (Romans 9:10–13, NKJV)

> “What shall we say then? Is there
> unrighteousness with God? Certainly not!
> For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy
> on whomever I will have mercy, and I
> will have compassion on whomever I will
> have compassion.” So then it is not of
> him who wills, nor of him who runs, but
> of God who shows mercy. For the
> Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this
> very purpose I have raised you up, that
> I may show My power in you, and that My
> name may be declared in all the earth.”

God knows the end of the matter, but you can only see the beginning.
Esau had a choice, and so did Pharaoh.

Like with Job—the end of the matter. "My perfect and upright servant
Job," but didn't Job abhor himself and repent in dust and ashes? Yeah,
perfect and upright because God saw the end of the matter.

That is not the same vantage point as you, Mr Sinner See-all-Rosie.

God is not a respecter of sinners, but He does see the end of the matter.

> [God's glory is the ultimate objective
> here, so man's boasting must be excluded
> from the equation. That's why God
> chooses who will be saved. The rest get
> what they deserve.]
>
> Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills,
> and whom He wills He hardens. You will
> say to me then, “Why does He still find
> fault? For who has resisted His will?”
> But indeed, O man, who are you to reply
> against God? Will the thing formed say
> to him who formed it, “Why have you made
> me like this?” Does not the potter have
> power over the clay, from the same lump
> to make one vessel for honor and another
> for dishonor?” (Romans 9:14–21, NKJV)
>
> And don't delude yourself with the idea
> that if you object to God's will in the
> matter, that somehow, your will is going
> to overthrow God's kingdom. God will
> either give you saving faith in Christ
> or you will suffer the penalty of
> eternal destruction.

Well then, I guess we are stuck with righteous whores like you.

How fortunate for all of us. :-).

You are not a better class of sinner because you have a religious
doctrine and a bible in your hand, WhoreRosie.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."