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Subject: Re: The Reason One Becomes an Atheist
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"Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:XnsB1AD858181527629555@185.151.15.160...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:v6rjot$33em7$5@dont-email.me:
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>>
>>
>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsB1AC83E8F64DA629555@185.151.15.190...
>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>> news:v6onj7$2g188$13@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:XnsB1AB814D77A8E629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:v6m78m $1v0jr$20@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:XnsB1AA83C20B73C629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:v6jl2r
>>>>>>> $1ebn2$28@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:XnsB1A9D16A65FE629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>>>>>> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:v6htj8$12l5j$3
>>>>>>> @dont-
>>>>>>>>> email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:668c3812$0$1895503$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB1A98B6E059CF629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>> noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:668c2930$0$1895499$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB1A97F3606ECE629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>>>> noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> news:668becab$0$2422120 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > In article <XnsB1A8D17FD1299629555@185.151.15.160>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > noemail@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> news:668b191e$0$3620720$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > In article <v6f2io$gjqe$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> _spamblock@baxcode.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Watson Herbusch <paid@x.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> news:v6etbq$42s$5@toxic.dizum.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > On 07 Jul 2024, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Doctor) posted some
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > news:v6e2ig$4fj$5@gallifrey.nk.ca:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> In article <X_viO.61872$C9He.19099@fx15.ams4>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Andrew <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>One becomes an atheist when they do not
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>want God in their life. Not because there
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>is no evidence for God.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>Because evidence for our most awesome
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>Creator is there in the very *creation* that
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>He made;
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>And is evident for ~anyone~ who wants to
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>know.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Atheist science is a contradiction.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Atheism is a religion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> =========
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> religion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> While there are some religions that are atheistic
>>>>> (certain
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> that atheism is a religion. To put it in a more
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> humorous way:
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> atheism is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> religion,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> then not collecting stamps is a hobby.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-
>>>>> atheism/
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ============
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> > It is and your cites are biased.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Everything that proves you wrong is biased.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > But if I post something from Fox or RSNB or something
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > you
>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > it's biased.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Fox News ADMITS they are biased shills for Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Off the air, Fox News stars blasted
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> the election fraud claims they peddled
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> FEBRUARY 16, 2023
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157558299/fox-news-stars-
>>>>> false-
>>>>>>>>> clai
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ms- trump-election-2020
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > So?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox lies for Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They admit they lie for Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Next?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> MSM and the white house has been lying about Joe for 3 years.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have a point to make?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They been saying tRump good, Biden bad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Isn't it fun watching Fox News cringe
>>>>>>>>> while reporting on the latest job creation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> US Unemployment Rate (I:USUR)
>>>>>>>> US Unemployment Rate is at 4.10%, compared to 4.00% last month
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> 3.60%
>>>>>>>> last year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Biden brought the Trump 6.4% rate
>>>>>>> down to 3.6% and you are complaining?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Average Yearly Inflation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We were talking about unemployment.
>>>>
>>>> Yea, and how many people have LEFT the job market under Biden and
>>>> are no longer even counted as unemployed?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Huh??
>>>
>>>
>>> US job gains surge past expectations,
>>> wage growth quickens
>>> June 7, 2024
>>> https://tinyurl.com/yjt363vs
>>
>> and we are still below pre-covid job numbers, and many Americans
>> complain there aren't enough jobs.
>
>
> Wrong.
>
> 1) More Americans are working now
> than at any point in HISTORY.
>
>
> "In 2023, it was estimated that over
> 161 million Americans were in some
> form of employment, while 3.64 percent
> of the total workforce was unemployed."

One the population has grown and while we are above where we were pre-Covid
for jobs. we are well below where the job creation would have put us.
Second, some form of employment, is a rather dubious statement. If someone
went from $100,000 salaried position to a minimum wage job parking cars, can
we really say the job market improved for them.. even though they have a
job?

Further I might point out that unemployment only counts those actively
looking for work.. it does NOT count those that have given up on finding
work.
So while unemployment might be down, the percentage of people employed is
down, as are the quality of the jobs that exist.

Finally, are that many people actually employed or do we simply have 161
Million jobs, with a lot of people now having to hold down 2, 3 or even 4
jobs just to make ends meet?

The MOST you can say is that we are back to pre-covid levels.. which means
existing jobs were filled. Zero creation of additional new jobs despite 4
years of growth in the number of adults.

IOW, you need to look at the WHOLE picture. not just the little sneak peaks
that give a misleading and frankly biased view of what is really going on.

Bottom line.. we are still down overall from from Trump's employment high.

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