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Subject: Re: The Reason One Becomes an Atheist
From: In the Name of Jesus
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:41 UTC
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (In the Name of Jesus)
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Subject: Re: The Reason One Becomes an Atheist
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:41:58 +1000
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On 11/07/2024 9:00 am, Baxter wrote:
> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> news:v6n0em$22boi$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 11/07/2024 12:41 am, Baxter wrote:
>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>> news:v6kuia $1o7d9$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 10/07/2024 1:05 pm, Baxter wrote:
>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v6kghh$1h7n1$8@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it had faith in its rescuers based on what it believed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dogs do not have the mental capacity for belief. You're projecting
>>>>> - antropomorphic.
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>> No one is saying that. By the way, you better go and look for your
>>>> dog, it won't know where it is or where it is going to get its next
>>>> meal.
>>
>> Baxter wrote:
>>> A lot of people have faith that if tRump becomes Presidend, he will
>>> do the Right Things and help the country and it's people - that's not
>>> faith, that's stupidity.
>>
>>> Others have faith that tRump as President will destroy the country
>>> and hurt the people they don't like - is that the faith you want?
>>
>> You have a lot of faith in your opinion, fella.
>>
>> What is probably the truth? Whatever president you get, it will be
>> more of the same. Now there is a sensible probability to put your
>> faith in, Baxter.
>
> We've heard this "just the same" bullshit before. tRump is nothing like
> Biden, and Project 2025 is proof his second administration would be pure
> hell for most people.

So you believe. Why? Everything is a belief—human consciousness and to a
lessor degree, animal.

Have you got it yet?

>> By the way, have you found your believer-less lost dog yet? It is
>> probably standing dead still, like a cardboard cutout somewhere, not
>> knowing what to do.
>>
>> Dogs think (an animal) and to do that, they need to
>> believe...something.
>>
>> I wish you would make a move! :-).
>
> Just because an animal occasionally behaves in a manner you might think
> is faith,

It is not "occasional," an animal is habitual based on its belief and
then, in the case of the dog, it faithfully follows after that basic belief.

It has a brain, Baxter.

> does not mean faith is the basis of their lives,

We are not talking about humanistic awareness on a par with an animal,
Baxter. It is just like a brain; a human has a brain, a dog has a brain.
They are imprinted with a belief as a course of reality in navigating
life as we experience on this earth.

However, the human experience is on a much higher level of consciousness
because we are made in the image (characteristics) of our Creator, but
the ===>>> basic <<<=== (fundamental) tenet of belief applies (is
foundational) just as it does with an animal.

> And don't
> just stop with dogs - there's plenty of other animals, some with brains
> too small to form a thought - they follow their biological programming -
> no faith is require.

> you are a fraud, you come here, misusing the term, and can't support any
> of the bullshit you spew.

What I say doesn't agree with you so I am a fraud? :-). You almost sound
like a religious zealot with a bible in his hand. :-). You choose to
believe what you say about me based on the misguided faith you place in
yourself.

There is no wisely considered evidence of the evil you say about me in
what I say, Mr Prove-it.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"

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