On May 5, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v19718$22vnf$4@dont-email.me>):

> On 6/05/2024 8:45 am, Robert wrote:
> > On May 5, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <v18v9q$22vnf$3@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKGUq7AGDm0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Go to the 15:45-minute mark to the 18:11-minute mark.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is a mix of what is right and what is wrong, what is perfect and
> > > > > > > what is not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When he says "try" what is he saying?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Trying to be what?
> > >
> > > Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > I didn't watch it, but the word 'angel' in the bible means simply
> > > > > > messenger. spiritual beings with wings in white robes is just made up
> > > > > > stuff.
> > >
> > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > Lots of people make up stuff about lots of things because they don't
> > > > > know what to believe. I understand the dilemma.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to know the answer to the question, the man is trying to be
> > > > > righteous, and that is a big no no. It portrays the sacrifice on the
> > > > > cross of the Lord Jesus of no effect and of no value. He is lying and
> > > > > stealing. Lying because he is pretending the Lord comes first, and
> > > > > stealing because he is seeking to make himself the truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > He doesn't know that, but it doesn't change anything.
> > >
> > > Robert wrote:
> > > > Michael, that is what he said he was, as a pastor before he died. That is
> > > > why
> > > > he was so shocked to find out that “after doing all the right things”,
> > > > he
> > > > was not.
> > >
> > > Clearly.
> > >
> > > I know, Robert.
> > >
> > > But do you know what I said?
> > >
> > > "Trying...to be what?"
> > >
> > > Did his experience destroy him or did he just change tack?
> > >
> > > Michael Christ
> > >
> > > > “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to
> > > > escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the
> > > > Son
> > > > of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Christ
> >
> > You are are shifting the goal posts of what he meant.
> > He definitely meant
> > what it was that I answered, but you appear to have shifted that altogether
> > to mean his current life with God, not his prior life as a do-gooder/works
> > type of guy.
>
> He continued in his "do-gooder/works."

Even you cannot claim that of him. Since he is no longer doing what he used
to.
The only way you can claim that is by your personal judgments of what
“do-gooder/works” is by totally disregarding what he said.

>
> "Trying to do what?"
>
> I read through the rest out of respect for the time you took to post it.
> I commented at the endish.

Thanks.
>
>
> > If you mean things other than what is the original context, then you should
> > allude to that, if you want smooth communication with other people. I
> > understand his change, as well as why. What he came to realize is what was
> > written in scripture, and focused on in the Gospels as well as Revelations.
> >
> > What he said that God told him clarified to me on a much broader scale what
> > Jesus meant when he said that there would be many in the time of Judgment
> > who
> > called him Lord, yet never made him their Lord. Did works in his name, like
> > healings and miracles, yet he never knew them. Many might wonder how that
> > could be, but the Bible clearly teaches that there is authority in the name
> > of Jesus, power in his name, and that his name is above all other names.
> > (Which many people do not see or understand) Yet even in the days of Jesus
> > people who were not his disciples were healing in his name.
> >
> > Jesus instructed him that he was only to share what he did with others that
> > requested the info he was given. The why of that was easy to see and
> > understand. He did as the Lord told him. The reactions of “christians”
> > within these NG’s bore it out.
> >
> > Even the “new commandment” that Jesus gave us falls upon deaf ears here.
> > And has for as many years as I have posted here.
> >
> > While typing this the thought is constantly going through my mind, that if
> > Jesus was posting here he would quickly move on.
> >
> > The shame of it all is that even the atheist, thanks to you, recognize the
> > wars that goes on between so-called christians, as they openly mock, and
> > rightfully so, the lack of harmony, understanding, while they see the
> > “christian” warfare like a cancer destroying communication of supposedly
> > like minded people. Satan is having a field day here, just like he does in
> > the churches with its various fractions.
> >
> > How many see this going on, and feel totally vindicated in living their
> > lives without God?
> >
> > Where is the shame amongst the community of so-called believers?
>
> Well, I am not of that club, so it does not apply to me. But indeed,
> sinner justifying theology and behaviour is the modern "Christian"
> landscape.

Hmmm. So you stand alone, there is none like thee. Have you counted all the
peeps that have come in here with strange doctrines, who you agree with and
fell all over yourself trying to establish a bond? But when they were
stubborn in their own rights and refused to adapt to your way it all quickly
eroded? The last one who you cottoned to was the clown called nightshade, At
the time you both said that you believed there was no hell for any man., etc.
etc. You agreed for a time with his doctrines because he had them all down
pat with fancy phrases as if he was intelligent. You were sucked into his
vacuous thinking for a time.

Why? If your doctrines were so true and unshakeable? Just saying, so you can
think about it and how quickly you can sell your soul, or should I say, give
your soul to the devil.

His “crew” all disappeared. LOL
>
>
> No shame about the poorly treated way their regard is for the Lord. In a
> "just say you are sorry" for a "piece of stupid" and "mistake" culture,
> claim a doctrine, and you are saved.

That is another one of your manufactured ideas. You could not understand so
you restructured and fabricated it all into a doctrine that stemmed from your
mind, yeah, you used a quip he used occasionally, never grasping what he
meant by that from his countryside manners.
>
>
> Well, it doesn't work that way. Only those who love the Lord with all
> their heart, soul, and mind enter the covenant.

You are opposed to “the covenant”. If what you said were true your entire
demeanor would be transformed. You would walk in the spirit and understand
the things written in scripture in concert with the spirit of God and many
born again spirit filled believers.
>
>
> > No small wonder that the Lord said, “Depart from me ye workers of
> > Iniquity. I never knew you."
>
> The so-called believers with bible in hand are indeed workers of
> iniquity. They live as liars and attempt to steal the truth for themselves.

There are many of those, of which that Pastor spoke about, which included him
up to the point where he died. On his request for the second pleading he had
changed, acknowledging the truth as the Lord saw it.

Your works are your repetitive mantra about Loving the Lord with all you
heart. Etc. Yet it is impossible for you to walk the talk. You just talk the
talk, no walk with him. You cannot even explain what it means, and given that
the entire Bible is the Word of God, which can never pass away, you cannot
explain you lack of respect for it, nor even understand major portions of it.

I really hate to reiterate all these things, as they and more have been
mentioned to you countless times. But Michael, things are about to change
quickly. The full out spiritual warfare has begun. God is raising up an army
to tear down the evil, and raise a standard against it. While the Army of God
will win the spiritual battle, satan is going to do his best to delay and
destroy. There will be many things everyone will see and wonder about. There
will be many mighty reversals and some suddenly. As this all occurs, where
will you stand in all of this? Alone?
>
>
> That should remind you of what the Lord Jesus said (Matthew 21:37-39).

Read verse 44.
>
>
> Anyway, I hear what you have said but you have not heard what I said.

That tune of yours has not publicly changed for as long as we have known of
each other.
I hear you, but you do not hear the Heavenly Father. Which is why you lack
understanding, peace and love.
May you open your eyes to the Lord and see, before you pass through the vail.

>
>
> Michael Christ