On 6/05/2024 8:45 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 5, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v18v9q$22vnf$3@dont-email.me>):
>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKGUq7AGDm0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to the 15:45-minute mark to the 18:11-minute mark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a mix of what is right and what is wrong, what is perfect and
>>>>>> what is not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When he says "try" what is he saying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trying to be what?
>>
>> Maximus wrote:
>>>>> I didn't watch it, but the word 'angel' in the bible means simply
>>>>> messenger. spiritual beings with wings in white robes is just made up
>>>>> stuff.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> Lots of people make up stuff about lots of things because they don't
>>>> know what to believe. I understand the dilemma.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to know the answer to the question, the man is trying to be
>>>> righteous, and that is a big no no. It portrays the sacrifice on the
>>>> cross of the Lord Jesus of no effect and of no value. He is lying and
>>>> stealing. Lying because he is pretending the Lord comes first, and
>>>> stealing because he is seeking to make himself the truth.
>>>>
>>>> He doesn't know that, but it doesn't change anything.
>>
>> Robert wrote:
>>> Michael, that is what he said he was, as a pastor before he died. That is
>>> why
>>> he was so shocked to find out that “after doing all the right things”,
>>> he
>>> was not.
>>
>> Clearly.
>>
>> I know, Robert.
>>
>> But do you know what I said?
>>
>> "Trying...to be what?"
>>
>> Did his experience destroy him or did he just change tack?
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>>> “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to
>>> escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son
>>> of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>
> You are are shifting the goal posts of what he meant.
> He definitely meant
> what it was that I answered, but you appear to have shifted that altogether
> to mean his current life with God, not his prior life as a do-gooder/works
> type of guy.

He continued in his "do-gooder/works."

"Trying to do what?"

I read through the rest out of respect for the time you took to post it.
I commented at the endish.

> If you mean things other than what is the original context, then you should
> allude to that, if you want smooth communication with other people. I
> understand his change, as well as why. What he came to realize is what was
> written in scripture, and focused on in the Gospels as well as Revelations.
>
> What he said that God told him clarified to me on a much broader scale what
> Jesus meant when he said that there would be many in the time of Judgment who
> called him Lord, yet never made him their Lord. Did works in his name, like
> healings and miracles, yet he never knew them. Many might wonder how that
> could be, but the Bible clearly teaches that there is authority in the name
> of Jesus, power in his name, and that his name is above all other names.
> (Which many people do not see or understand) Yet even in the days of Jesus
> people who were not his disciples were healing in his name.
>
> Jesus instructed him that he was only to share what he did with others that
> requested the info he was given. The why of that was easy to see and
> understand. He did as the Lord told him. The reactions of “christians”
> within these NG’s bore it out.
>
> Even the “new commandment” that Jesus gave us falls upon deaf ears here.
> And has for as many years as I have posted here.
>
> While typing this the thought is constantly going through my mind, that if
> Jesus was posting here he would quickly move on.
>
> The shame of it all is that even the atheist, thanks to you, recognize the
> wars that goes on between so-called christians, as they openly mock, and
> rightfully so, the lack of harmony, understanding, while they see the
> “christian” warfare like a cancer destroying communication of supposedly
> like minded people. Satan is having a field day here, just like he does in
> the churches with its various fractions.
>
> How many see this going on, and feel totally vindicated in living their lives
> without God?
>
> Where is the shame amongst the community of so-called believers?

Well, I am not of that club, so it does not apply to me. But indeed,
sinner justifying theology and behaviour is the modern "Christian"
landscape.

No shame about the poorly treated way their regard is for the Lord. In a
"just say you are sorry" for a "piece of stupid" and "mistake" culture,
claim a doctrine, and you are saved.

Well, it doesn't work that way. Only those who love the Lord with all
their heart, soul, and mind enter the covenant.

> No small wonder that the Lord said, “Depart from me ye workers of iniquity.
> I never knew you."

The so-called believers with bible in hand are indeed workers of
iniquity. They live as liars and attempt to steal the truth for themselves.

That should remind you of what the Lord Jesus said (Matthew 21:37-39).

Anyway, I hear what you have said but you have not heard what I said.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."