On 5/05/2024 11:52 am, ChristRose wrote:
> Some foolishly try to undermine the
> Bible, claiming to the effect that
> saving faith is faith in the person of
> Christ, not faith in the Scripture, as
> if the two were opposed to one another,
> and one's faith had to either be in
> Christ, or in Scripture. This is a lie
> and false dichotomy that seeks to
> undermine the Scriptures. That God
> gives people saving faith in Christ
> through the proclamation of the
> word of God, seems evident from the
> following considerations:
>
> To begin, which "Christ" does one have
> to believe in to be saved? Only the
> Christ revealed to us in Scripture can
> save us. You can't get saved by some
> other "Christ" that is not revealed to
> us by Scripture.
>
> Second, if you don't trust what the
> Bible says, why would you put your faith
> in the Christ revealed to you in
> Scripture? You wouldn't. You have to
> believe what the Bible says is true
> before you will put your faith in the
> Christ of Scripture.
>
> Thirdly, the Scriptures are God
> breathed, they tell you that the word of
> God and Holy Scriptures are the means by
> which God imparts saving faith in the
> person of Christ to the believer:
>
> “having been born again, not of
> corruptible seed but incorruptible,
> through the word of God which lives and
> abides forever,” (1 Peter 1:23, NKJV)
>
> [Saving faith in the person of Christ
> comes through the written word of God.]
>
> “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of
> Christ, for it is the power of God to
> salvation for everyone who believes, for
> the Jew first and also for the Greek.”
> (Romans 1:16, NKJV)
>
> [Saving faith in Christ comes through
> the proclamation of the gospel of
> Christ.]
>
> “So then faith comes by hearing, and
> hearing by the word of God.” (Romans
> 10:17, NKJV)
>
> [Saving faith in Christ comes through
> hearing the word of God proclaimed.]
>
> “but these are written that you may
> believe that Jesus is the Christ, the
> Son of God, and that believing you may
> have life in His name.” (John 20:31,
> NKJV)
>
> [Saving faith in Christ comes through
> what is written about Him in Scripture]
>
> “and that from childhood you have known
> the Holy Scriptures, which are able to
> make you wise for salvation through
> faith which is in Christ Jesus.” (2
> Timothy 3:15, NKJV)
>
> [Here again, saving faith in Christ,
> comes through the "Holy Scriptures"]
>
> Thus, only a fool would promote a false
> dichotomy and lie that seeks to
> undermine the very means by which God
> imparts saving faith in Christ, to the
> believer, which is through the
> proclamation of the word of God.

God does not impart faith through the proclamation of the written word,
but through the revelation of His presence through His Holy Spirit.
Knowing Him and having faith in Him as a Person become the cornerstone
of salvation.

Claiming scriptures cannot save anyone. Obviously, it hasn't with
ChristRose because he continues to mistreat and abuse the Lord with his
own will be done. I don't know what he thinks sin is—some small mistake
or a minor piece of stupidity? No, it is an ABOMINATION; it is the
setting aside, the rejection of God's will!

Anyway, he won't listen to anything other than the sound of his own
sinner voice, but reader, understand, only faith in a personal
relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ saves, as the scriptures declare.

John 5:39-40
You pore over the Scriptures because you presume that by them you
possess eternal life. These are the very words that testify about Me,
yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.

Not, come to My scriptures, come to Me!

If the penny ever drops with ChristRose, then he'll see what he really
is, a liar and the thief.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."