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Subject: Re: DumbFuck MTG Dragged After Seemingly Not Knowing That Electric Vehicles Actually Run On Electricity
From: Loran
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From: loran@invalid.net (Loran)
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Subject: Re: DumbFuck MTG Dragged After Seemingly Not Knowing That Electric
Vehicles Actually Run On Electricity
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 15:07:37 -0600
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Malte Runz wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:07:10 -0600, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> Ryan wrote:
>>> “If you think gas prices are high now, just wait until you’re forced to
>>> drive an electric vehicle."
>>>
>>> Greene smiled as she egged on the booing crowd before remarking:
>>>
>>> "Ya'll may become my favorite place to go. America is sick of it."
>>>
>>> You can hear what she said in the video below.
>>>
>>> Nothing Greene said is even remotely correct.
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> Giverment is picking winners again, traitor.
>>
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2022/03/10/gas-prices-electric-car-conspiracy/9452485002/
>>
>> President Joe Biden’s administration is intentionally driving up the
>> price of gas to get more American drivers behind the wheel of an
>> electric car.
>>
>> “$6.00 a gallon gas is how you get people to buy electric cars,” claims
>> one popular meme, shared thousands of times across Facebook and
>> Instagram since Tuesday.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y277u3xm
> "Fossil Fuel Subsidies Surged to Record $7 Trillion."
>
> If the federal government decided to cut all subsidies to oil and gas,
> in true capitalist spirit, imagine what you guys would be paying for a
> gallon of gasoline.

Imagine if those EV subsidies had ever led to a battery pool with more
than 400 miles of total range.

But they did not.

It took Lucid Air (Chicom owned btw) to do that, not our blessed giverment.

https://www.globalfleet.com/en/technology-and-innovation/global/analysis/battery-series-lucid-motors-has-unique-battery-tech-and-new-strategy?t%5B0%5D=Battery%20Technology&curl=1

And how about those 8 new national charging stations, WOWZA!

https://reason.com/2024/05/30/7-5-billion-in-government-cash-only-built-8-e-v-chargers-in-2-5-years/

You were saying what about oil subsidies???

>> https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-plan-to-refill-emergency-oil-reserve-amid-high-prices
>>
>> The Biden administration has abruptly canceled a plan announced last
>> month to purchase up to three million barrels of oil as part of its
>> effort to refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR).
>
> "Amid high prices"! If Biden had bought the expensive oil now, you'd
> be criticizing him for not waiting for prices to go down. Am I right?

No, you're dead wrong.

What, you want us in a world war with 17 days of total domestic fuel
left in the tank?

Americans know a traitor when they read one.

>> The SPR — which Congress established for emergency situations —
>> currently contains 363.6 million barrels of oil, a 43% decline from
>> January 2021 when President Biden took office, federal data shows. Biden
>> began depleting the reserve in late 2021...
>
> ... in order to keep gasoline prices low in the wake of the pandemic
> that caused prices to soar globally once demand skyrocketed.

Bullshit lies.

Done to manipulate gas prices pre-election, then send them back up with
artificial market/cartel scarcity of product the nominal scapegoat.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2024/04/24/dont-use-the-spr-to-manipulate-oil-prices/

After going untapped for decades, the Biden Administration drew down the
Strategic Petroleum Reserve by almost 300 million barrels during the
pandemic when demand recovered faster than expected and OPEC+’s quotas
led to the market tightening and higher prices (see figure). Most of the
draw occurred when prices were above $80 but given that the maximum draw
was about 1 mb/d for five months, while OPEC+ had somewhere around 4
mb/d of spare capacity, it could be argued that the draw was unnecessary.

That assumes that OPEC+ and the Saudis in particular would have stepped
in to keep prices from going higher, which is uncertain. Quite possibly,
OPEC+ members would have resisted requests from the Biden Administration
to raise production, meaning prices would have remained above $100. But
the U.S. could have tried other policies, for example, removing
sanctions on Iran, Russia and/or Venezuela, which might have added an
additional 2 mb/d to the market. Admittedly, that was politically
unacceptable.

Obviously, the Administration wants lower not higher oil prices in this
election year, especially as we head into the all-important summer
vacation and driving season. If gasoline passes $4 a gallon in most of
the country, a lot of discouraging words will be heard on the range.
Trump will naturally point to higher gasoline prices as a prominent
indicator of what he considers failed Administration policies, comparing
it to the low price of $1.81 a gallon in April 2020 while glossing over
the role of the pandemic in the reduction.

So, the temptation for Biden will be to at the least try to talk prices
down by threatening a new release, which could lead to a tit-for-tat war
of words with Saudi Minister Abdulaziz bin Salman, already on record as
warning short-sellers that they risked being caught out by a cut in
Saudi production. Beyond threats and jawboning, a further release of oil
from American strategic reserves could mean lower global prices but
given how far the SPR has already been reduced, there are clear limits
to how much more can be released. Of course, lower prices for a few
months would satisfy Biden’s political needs.

>> Looks like Biden gets a twofer there:
>>
>> 1.) If we go to war we're running on empty and will lose.
>
> Do you think the US is on the verge of going to war?

Did you see the Russian sub and frigate exercises off the Florida coast?

> The US has never produced more oil than it does now. More than any
> other country ever has. These day the US produces on average 13
> million barrels per month.

And yet somehow we cant keep the SPR filled, go figure!

>> 2.) Less fuel in total means higher prices across the board.
>
> How does the size US oil reserve influence consumer prices "across the
> board"?

OPEC and cartel oil pricing handles that, always has since the 70s.

>> Yep, that's a recipe for a forcing of drivers into EVs.
>>
>> Which will be followed quickly (should it occur) by spikes in electric
>> rates and grid failures.
>
> You need to scale up the grid eventually. But then again, maybe you
> like black-outs in 110 F.

So flood it with EVs _before_ it's allegedly scaled up is your final answer?

You treasonous moron.

>>
>> This is how "the big guy" is tearing our nation to a pile of rubble.
>
> It's all in your head. The US economy is the envy of the world.
> Bigger, stronger, and more robust than any other major player.

Bullshit based on an our of control printing press at the Fed.

When they stopped reporting M3 (the real money supply) visibility of our
rampant currency devaluation was lost.

> Record low unemployment figures,

Illegals!

> Dow Jones almost twice as high as it were
> under Trump,

Indexed to funny money and interest rate manipulations by the Fed.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/01/biden-trump-stock-market-performance

Stocks have soared under President Biden, although not by quite as much
as they had at the same point in former President Trump's term.

Why it matters: Voters often feel like stock market performance is a
gauge of America's economic health, and of presidential policy, even if
most economists would disagree.

By the numbers: The S&P 500 climbed 25.9% between Biden's inauguration
and Friday's market close, which is the last day of trading in 2023.

It rose 42.3% during the similar period for Trump, which was shortly
before the COVID-19 pandemic sent stocks into a temporary tailspin.
Former President Obama topped them both, with an S&P 500 gain of 48.6%
during the relevant period.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average has climbed 21.9% under Biden, whereas
it grew 44.6% for Trump. The Nasdaq composite index is up 13.8% under
Biden and was up 62% for Trump.

> inflation dropping like a rock,

You're an insane LIAR:

https://www.biden-mart.com/

Putting food on the table has become harder than ever thanks to
"Bidenomics." As costs for everyday items continue to rise, American
families are struggling more and more to foot the bill.

Check off the items from the list below to compile your weekly grocery
list and see how much more expensive your bill has become under Joe Biden.

2lbs. ground beef:

YOUR BILL
UNDER TRUMP

$6.18

YOUR BILL
UNDER BIDEN

$10.26

PERCENT
INCREASE

66.02 %

SOURCE: USDA DATA, JANUARY 2021 AND JANUARY 2024

> gas prices going down,

As the SPR is drained for political expediency.

> more new businesses started than ever before... where's the problem?

https://www.oberlo.com/statistics/how-many-new-businesses-start-each-year

Analysts credit a part of the increase to a “need” from people after
having lost their jobs during the pandemic; starting their own business
was a way to potentially acquire lost income. Some also did so to meet
rising and changing consumer demands.

The latest new business statistics from 2024 show that 1.32 million new
small business applications were filed in the first quarter. This marks
a marginal 1.1% annual decrease from the same period in 2023.

>> And you signed on with him - pray that you can disappear when the riots
>> come, but know that patriots have you in their sights already.
>>
>> Enjoy, asshole!
>
> Is that a threat of violence to come should Trump lose?

Is that a preview of more rigged show trails and Demotarded dirty tricks?

You lefties have way overplayed your hands - now reap the whirlwind!

XXX

Oh and...FUCK OFF RUDEY!

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