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Subject: Re: God uses Scripture, Not Sensational Experience Claims, To Save Men.
From: Michael Christ
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 23:22 UTC
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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Subject: Re: God uses Scripture, Not Sensational Experience Claims, To Save
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Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 09:22:18 +1000
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On 5/05/2024 6:48 am, ChristRose wrote:
> ““Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore,
> father, that you would send him to my
> father’s house, for I have five
> brothers, that he may testify to them,
> lest they also come to this place of
> torment.’ Abraham said to him, ‘They
> have Moses and the prophets; let them
> hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father
> Abraham; but if one goes to them from
> the dead, they will repent.’ But he said
> to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and
> the prophets, neither will they be
> persuaded though one rise from the
> dead.’ ”” (Luke 16:27–31, NKJV)
>
> The rich man who actually went to hell,
> suddenly became an evangelist, and
> wanted to warn people not to come to
> this place. His request was that someone
> who had seen what he saw, would go and
> warn his brothers not to come to this
> place.
>
> Abraham responded that they have Moses
> and the prophets to listen to. The rich
> man was sure that if someone who had
> experienced death and hell were to go to
> them, then his brothers would be
> persuaded to avoid the place. What was
> Abraham's response?
>
> Was it, "Why yes, if someone who had the
> experience of death and going to hell
> were to go to them, then they would
> believe"? Not at all. Instead, Abraham
> gave the correct answer: If they do not
> hear Moses and the prophets [the
> Scriptures], NEITHER WILL THEY BE
> PERSUADED THOUGH ONE RISE FROM THE
> DEAD."
>
> God does not persuade people to be
> saved, through the sensational claims of
> personal experience of those who claim
> to have gone to hell and come back to
> warn us about it. He has chosen to save
> men through faith in the gospel message:
>
> “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of
> Christ, for it is the power of God to
> salvation for everyone who believes, for
> the Jew first and also for the Greek.”
> (Romans 1:16, NKJV)
>
> “So then faith comes by hearing, and
> hearing by the word of God.” (Romans
> 10:17, NKJV)
>
> “In Him you also trusted, after you
> heard the word of truth, the gospel of
> your salvation; in whom also, having
> believed, you were sealed with the Holy
> Spirit of promise,” (Ephesians 1:13,
> NKJV)
>
> “having been born again, not of
> corruptible seed but incorruptible,
> through the word of God which lives and
> abides forever,” (1 Peter 1:23, NKJV)
>
> “Moreover, brethren, I declare to you
> the gospel which I preached to you,
> which also you received and in which you
> stand, by which also you are saved, if
> you hold fast that word which I preached
> to you—unless you believed in vain.” (1
> Corinthians 15:1–2, NKJV)
>
> Thus, those who promote sensational,
> "back from the dead" experiences, as if
> these are how God would lead people to
> saving faith in Christ, deny and
> contradict the plain teaching of
> Scripture. The gospel alone is the power
> of God unto salvation. If men won't
> believe the gospel, then they would not
> believe, even if one rose from the dead.

Saul thought he could see everything too and had the perfect theology in
his scriptures, but then the Lord spoke to him, and then he became Paul.

The Bible is not enough because you are not enough.

Michael Christ

>
>
> --
> Have you heard the good news Christ died
> for our sins (†), and God raised Him
> from the dead?
>
> That Christ died for our sins shows
> we're sinners who deserve the death
> penalty. That God raised Him from the
> dead shows Christ's death satisfied
> God's righteous demands against our sin
> (Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
> God can now remain just, while forgiving
> you of your sins, and saving you from
> eternal damnation.

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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By: Michael Christ on Sat, 4 May 2024

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