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Subject: Re: God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical Theorems within Standard Physics
From: Dawn Flood
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From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com (Dawn Flood)
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Subject: Re: God's Existence Is Proven by Several Mathematical Theorems within
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On 2/12/2024 10:04 AM, James Redford wrote:
> Physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point
> cosmology is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) demonstrating that
> sapient life (in the form of, e.g., immortal superintelligent
> human-mind computer-uploads and artificial intelligences) is required
> by the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics,
> General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics) to take control over all
> matter in the universe, for said life to eventually force the collapse
> of the universe, and for the computational resources of the universe
> (in terms of both processor speed and memory storage) to diverge to
> infinity as the universe collapses into a final singularity, termed
> the Omega Point. Said Omega Point cosmology is also an intrinsic
> component of the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard
> Model Theory of Everything (TOE) correctly describing and unifying all
> the forces in physics, of which TOE is itself mathematically forced by
> the aforesaid known physical laws.
>
> Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been extensively
> peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics
> and science journals, such as Reports on Progress in Physics (the
> leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main
> professional organization for physicists), Monthly Notices of the
> Royal Astronomical Society (one of the world's leading astrophysics
> journals), the International Journal of Theoretical Physics (a journal
> that Nobel Prize in Physics winner Richard Feynman also published in),
> and Physics Letters, among other journals.
>
> Prof. Tipler's Ph.D. is in the field of Global General Relativity,
> which is the field created by Profs. Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose
> during the formulation of their Singularity Theorems in the 1960s.
> Global General Relativity is General Relativity applied on the scale
> of the entire universe as a whole, and is the most elite and rarefied
> field of physics. Tipler is also an expert in quantum field theory
> (i.e., Quantum Mechanics combined with special-relativistic particle
> physics) and computer theory. Moreover, to here point out, said
> Singularity Theorems are themselves completely valid proofs of God's
> existence in the First Cause aspect of God.
>
> The Omega Point final singularity has all the unique properties
> (quiddities) claimed for God in the traditional religions. For much
> more on Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the details on how it
> uniquely conforms to, and precisely matches, the cosmology described
> in the New Testament, see my following article, which also addresses
> the societal implications of the Omega Point cosmology:
>
> * James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
> Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012
> (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708,
> https://web.archive.org/web/20150927090439/http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
> ,
> https://archive.org/download/ThePhysicsOfGodAndTheQuantumGravityTheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf
> , https://purl.org/redford/physics-of-god .
>
> Additionally, in the below resource are different sections which
> contain some helpful notes and commentary by me pertaining to
> multimedia wherein Prof. Tipler explains the Omega Point cosmology and
> the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE.
>
> * James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's
> Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", God and
> Physics Wiki, May 12, 2019 (orig. pub. Apr. 3, 2013),
> https://megalodon.jp/2019-0512-1524-14/godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Tipler-Krauss_2007_Debate
> ,
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190512062421/https://godandphysics.fandom.com/wiki/Video_of_Profs._Frank_Tipler_and_Lawrence_Krauss%27s_Debate_at_Caltech:_Can_Physics_Prove_God_and_Christianity%3F
> , https://archive.is/V9njw .
>
> As said, Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology is a mathematical
> theorem per the aforementioned known laws of physics, of which have
> been confirmed by every experiment to date. Hence, the only way to
> avoid the Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof.
> Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem."
> (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of
> Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
>
> Indeed, in the Feynman path integral formulation of Quantum Mechanics
> (i.e., sum-over-paths; sum-over-histories) a singularity is even more
> inevitable than in the Penrose-Hawking-Geroch Singularity Theorems,
> since the Singularity Theorems assume attractive gravity, whereas the
> Feynman sum-over-histories get arbitrarily close to infinite
> curvature. In other words, the multiverse has its own singularity.
>
> Further, due to Liouville's Theorem in complex analysis, it doesn't
> matter what form of physics one resorts to, as any
> physically-realistic cosmology (e.g., one capable of incorporating
> Quantum Mechanics, since the complex number field is intrinsic to the
> mathematical formulations of Quantum Mechanics) must begin at an
> initial singularity and end at a final singularity. (As Barrow and
> Tipler wrote, "Initial and final cosmological curvature singularities
> are required to avoid a universal action singularity." See John D.
> Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, "Action principles in nature", Nature,
> Vol. 331, No. 6151 [Jan. 7, 1988], pp. 31-34; see also Frank J.
> Tipler, "The Structure of the Classical Cosmological Singularity", in
> Origin and Early History of the Universe: Proceedings of the 26th
> Liège International Astrophyscial Colloquium, July 1-4, 1986
> [Cointe-Ougree, Belgium: Universite de Liege, Institut
> d'Astrophysique, 1987], pp. 339-359; "Discussion", pp. 360-361.)
>
> * * * * *
>
> Unfortunately, most modern physicists have been all too willing to
> abandon the laws of physics if it produces results that they're
> uncomfortable with, i.e., in reference to religion. It's the
> antagonism for religion on the part of the scientific community which
> greatly held up the acceptance of the Big Bang (for some 40 years),
> due to said scientific community's displeasure with it confirming the
> traditional theological position of *creatio ex nihilo*, and also
> because no laws of physics can apply to the singularity itself: i.e.,
> quite literally, the singularity is supernatural, in the sense that no
> form of physics can apply to it, since physical values are at infinity
> at the singularity, and so it is not possible to perform arithmetical
> operations on them; and in the sense that the singularity is beyond
> creation, as it is not a part of spacetime, but rather is the boundary
> of space and time.
>
> In Prof. Stephen Hawking's book The Grand Design (New York, NY: Bantam
> Books) coauthored with physicist Dr. Leonard Mlodinow and published in
> 2010, Hawking uses the String Theory extension M-Theory to argue that
> God's existence isn't necessary, although M-Theory has no
> observational evidence confirming it.
>
> With String Theory and other nonempirical physics, the physics
> community is reverting back to the epistemological methodology of
> Aristotelianism, which held to physical theories based upon *a priori*
> philosophical ideals. One of the *a priori* ideals held by many
> present-day physicists is that God cannot exist, and so if rejecting
> the existence of God requires rejecting empirical science, then so be
> it.
>
> For details on this rejection of physical law by physicists if it
> conflicts with their distaste for religion, see Sec. 5: "The Big
> Bang", pp. 28-33 of my "Physics of God" article cited above.
>
> The evolutionary psychological reason for the above-described bizarre
> behavior of physicists rejecting physical law when it demonstrates
> God's existence is due to the naturally-evolved Jaynesian gods of
> old--i.e., the demons--seeking to distance people from genuine
> knowledge of God so that the demons may instead falsely present
> themselves as God. Among many permutations of this, it often manifests
> as various forms of etatism: the state becomes God. Demons are quite
> real, they however exist as naturally-evolved Minskian agent subset
> programs operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. For more on
> this, see my following article:
>
> * James Redford, "Societal Sadomasochism", Social Science Research
> Network (SSRN), July 4, 2021 (orig. pub. May 29, 2018), 4 pp.,
> doi:10.2139/ssrn.4500656,
> https://megalodon.jp/2023-0720-0523-07/archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
> ,
> https://archive.org/download/Societal-Sadomasochism/Redford-Societal-Sadomasochism.pdf
> , https://www.freezepage.com/1689798200YQSGMQCYTZ .
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> James Redford
>
> Author of The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of
> Everything: And Other Selected Works (Chisinau, Moldova: Eliva Press,
> 2021), 268 pp., ISBN-10: 1636482775, ISBN-13: 9781636482774. See my
> curriculum vitæ (ark:/13960/t6g19878v):
> https://jamesredford.github.io/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf ,
> https://archive.org/download/JamesRedford/Redford-Curriculum-Vitae.pdf

Here's the Wikipedia article on Dr. Tipler:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Tipler

As I said in my other reply, Dr. Tipler does not seem like he is running
with all four wheels on the ground.

Dawn

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