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* Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneMarco Moock
+- Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scenejohnson
`* Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneArschraub Bosartig
 +* Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneAhem A Rivet's Shot
 |+- Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneJim Jackson
 |`- Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneD.J.
 +- Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneJim Jackson
 `- Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS SceneMarco Moock

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Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
From: Marco Moock
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers, alt.bbs
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:04 UTC
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From: mo01@posteo.de (Marco Moock)
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Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
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Am 15.02.2023 um 05:25:22 Uhr schrieb Citadel BBS History:

> Our official position is that the phrase "GNU/Linux"
> is only used by communists like Richard Stallman who contribute
> little more than noise and friction to the open source community."

This is BS - RMS stands for freedom in software development and usage -
communism isn't freedom at all.

Nobody is forced to use or develop free software.

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
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On 2023-03-27, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
> Am 15.02.2023 um 05:25:22 Uhr schrieb Citadel BBS History:
>
>> Our official position is that the phrase "GNU/Linux"
>> is only used by communists like Richard Stallman who contribute
>> little more than noise and friction to the open source community."
>
> This is BS - RMS stands for freedom in software development and usage -
> communism isn't freedom at all.
>
> Nobody is forced to use or develop free software.
>

well said, that man

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
From: Arschraub Bosartig
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From: schliessmuskel@einbrecher.invalid (Arschraub Bosartig)
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Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
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On 3/27/23 03:04, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 15.02.2023 um 05:25:22 Uhr schrieb Citadel BBS History:
>
>> Our official position is that the phrase "GNU/Linux"
>> is only used by communists like Richard Stallman who contribute
>> little more than noise and friction to the open source community."
>
> This is BS - RMS stands for freedom in software development and usage -
> communism isn't freedom at all.

Nein. RMS is a pinko. RMS stands for the freedom of big companies and
his pinko hacker friends to use your free software, make mountains of
money, and pay you nothing for it. That's what the GPL is really about.
It is about their freedom to use you, not your freedom as a creator.

> Nobody is forced to use or develop free software.

If you don't have a free software repository online you will not have an
easy time finding a job in the stack monkey market. You are forced
create free software if you want to be considered for jobs. Most
employers I know of want to see your public github repo. So RMS and his
GPL have millions of programmers donating free code to Microsoft's
GitHub, the biggest proprietary, non-free software maker in the world.

His "free software" movement has myriads of programmers writing software
for free that the corporations use to make money. Free software ideology
is basically a free-of-charge labor racket dressed up in slogans. That's
communism.

Others with a brain realize this as well:

"RMS wants all software to be GPL, which not only requires source code
and permits modification but also permits redistribution. So basically
it allows others "pirate your product", at least compared to commercial
licenses. So you're gonna be dependent on donations, which (if anything)
keep you at the bare minimum for the project to survive, 99% of the
time. De facto, he is against making money from software (as well as
online services, btw)." --k0defix (reddit)

Then others without a brain blurt insanity like this:

"No, because if he was a Communist, he would not insist that people can
package free software and sell it." --johncate73 (reddit)

But he insists that the original author must permit anyone else to
package and sell his creation, without compensation. That's communism.

--
Arschraub Bosartig

!furzen!tuten!hupen!poopen!kacke!kinderficker

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 02:17:38 -0000 (UTC)
Arschraub Bosartig <schliessmuskel@einbrecher.invalid> wrote:

> If you don't have a free software repository online you will not have an
> easy time finding a job in the stack monkey market. You are forced
> create free software if you want to be considered for jobs.

This is not true, I have been continuously employed as a software
developer since 1982, always moving upwards, never having trouble getting
employment and at 63 I regularly get messages from recruiters (I've been
turning down Google, Amazon and Facebook/Meta for years). I have never
published any free software other than small contribution to existing
projects, I certainly don't have a github repo.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
From: Jim Jackson
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On 2023-03-28, Arschraub Bosartig <schliessmuskel@einbrecher.invalid> wrote:
> His "free software" movement has myriads of programmers writing software
> for free that the corporations use to make money. Free software ideology
> is basically a free-of-charge labor racket dressed up in slogans. That's
> communism.

Wow that's communism is it. When is it time for your meds?

> "No, because if he was a Communist, he would not insist that people can
> package free software and sell it." --johncate73 (reddit)
>
> But he insists that the original author must permit anyone else to
> package and sell his creation, without compensation. That's communism.

He doesn't _insist_ . As a writer of software you can choose
any license you fancy - from propriety ones to a miriad of open source
ones.

I assume you are equally down on all other open source licenses????

Jeeze you are brain dead.

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
From: Jim Jackson
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On 2023-03-28, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 02:17:38 -0000 (UTC)
> Arschraub Bosartig <schliessmuskel@einbrecher.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If you don't have a free software repository online you will not have an
>> easy time finding a job in the stack monkey market. You are forced
>> create free software if you want to be considered for jobs.
>
> This is not true, I have been continuously employed as a software
> developer since 1982, always moving upwards, never having trouble getting
> employment and at 63 I regularly get messages from recruiters (I've been
> turning down Google, Amazon and Facebook/Meta for years). I have never
> published any free software other than small contribution to existing
> projects, I certainly don't have a github repo.
>

Like everything else he says - it doesn't make sense.

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:16:39 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
<steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 02:17:38 -0000 (UTC)
>Arschraub Bosartig <schliessmuskel@einbrecher.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If you don't have a free software repository online you will not have an
>> easy time finding a job in the stack monkey market. You are forced
>> create free software if you want to be considered for jobs.
>
> This is not true, I have been continuously employed as a software
>developer since 1982, always moving upwards, never having trouble getting
>employment and at 63 I regularly get messages from recruiters (I've been
>turning down Google, Amazon and Facebook/Meta for years). I have never
>published any free software other than small contribution to existing
>projects, I certainly don't have a github repo.

I think he is just a troll you are replying to.
--
Jim

Subject: Re: Richard Stallman as Seen via the BBS Scene
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Am 28.03.2023 um 02:17:38 Uhr schrieb Arschraub Bosartig:

> "RMS wants all software to be GPL, which not only requires source
> code and permits modification but also permits redistribution. So
> basically it allows others "pirate your product", at least compared
> to commercial licenses. So you're gonna be dependent on donations,
> which (if anything) keep you at the bare minimum for the project to
> survive, 99% of the time. De facto, he is against making money from
> software (as well as online services, btw)." --k0defix (reddit)

That is BS - GPL does not restrict users to sell it.
Many companies like RedHat do that and give additional support for
money.

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