Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump’s web of lies recently faced trouble.

By Charles Sykes

June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET

A Notable Climbdown

It’s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of Donald
Trump’s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last Friday, Salem
Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist film 2,000 Mules from its
platform and said it would no longer distribute either the movie or an
accompanying book by the right-wing activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh
D’Souza. It also issued an apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film
had falsely depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared of any
wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews filed a defamation
lawsuit in 2022 against D’Souza, Salem, and two individuals associated with a
group whose analysis heavily influenced the film.

While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News’s $787 million settlement last year
with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election, Salem’s climbdown is
worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the most influential right-wing media
companies in the United States, and in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie
version of Trump’s election lies. The film was utterly bogus—a mixture of
conjecture and falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.

Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it “the greatest and most impactful
documentary of our time.” When the movie debuted, Trump hosted a screening at
Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy Giuliani, Representative Marjorie
Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent
talking point for Trump allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election
had been stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two weeks after
it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10 million. Now the producer’s
public apology has made clear that the film was based on misleading data and
false claims. ["misleading data and false claims", aka *lies*]

The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet founded
in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun Gong movement. You
can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the publication, which is
distributed free to households around the world (including mine). But like Salem
Media, it plays an important role in the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and
spreads conspiracy theories, including disinformation about the 2020 election.

In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on pro-Trump
Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump campaign itself. The
publication also became a vector of disinformation, the NBC investigation found;
its news sites and YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories
including QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.

In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported in The
Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times “used every opportunity to call Biden’s
victory into doubt” and “eagerly publicized” Trump’s remarks preceding the
January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the paper continued to grow. By 2023,
The Epoch Times claimed that it had the fourth-largest subscriber base of any
newspaper in the country—and it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685
percent from 2019 to 2021.

It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this week, Weidong
“Bill” Guan, the chief financial officer of the company, was arrested and
charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million money-laundering scheme.
Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York charged that a team
at The Epoch Times called “Make Money Online” used cryptocurrency to “knowingly
purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds.” That allegedly included
taking fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has been
suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating with the
investigation.

The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest glitches in the
alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a lawsuit from Smartmatic
over the network’s election lies; Rudy Giuliani was hit last year with a massive
judgment for his lies about the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye
Moss, and his radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of
the Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones’s media platform, Free Speech Systems, after
winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and Trump himself is facing an
$83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean Carroll — whom he was found liable for
sexually assaulting.

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/

When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?

“At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism. This is
tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?” the man asked, to applause from the
crowd. “No, and I’m not – that’s not a joke. I’m not saying it like that. I
mean, literally, where’s the line? How many elections are they going to steal
before we kill these people?”

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/

If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on these fucking
fascist liars?

Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?

In article <v3vhc0$25plg$1@dont-email.me>, max.boot@lathymes.com says...
>
> Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump?s web of lies recently faced trouble.
>
> By Charles Sykes
>
> June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET
>
> A Notable Climbdown
>
> It?s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of Donald
> Trump?s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last Friday, Salem
> Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist film 2,000 Mules from its
> platform and said it would no longer distribute either the movie or an
> accompanying book by the right-wing activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh
> D?Souza. It also issued an apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film
> had falsely depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
> using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared of any
> wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews filed a defamation
> lawsuit in 2022 against D?Souza, Salem, and two individuals associated with a
> group whose analysis heavily influenced the film.
>
> While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News?s $787 million settlement last year
> with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election, Salem?s climbdown is
> worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the most influential right-wing media
> companies in the United States, and in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie
> version of Trump?s election lies. The film was utterly bogus?a mixture of
> conjecture and falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
> played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.
>
> Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it ?the greatest and most impactful
> documentary of our time.? When the movie debuted, Trump hosted a screening at
> Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy Giuliani, Representative Marjorie
> Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent
> talking point for Trump allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election
> had been stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
> that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two weeks after
> it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10 million. Now the producer?s
> public apology has made clear that the film was based on misleading data and
> false claims. ["misleading data and false claims", aka *lies*]
>
> The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet founded
> in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun Gong movement. You
> can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the publication, which is
> distributed free to households around the world (including mine). But like Salem
> Media, it plays an important role in the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and
> spreads conspiracy theories, including disinformation about the 2020 election.
>
> In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on pro-Trump
> Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump campaign itself. The
> publication also became a vector of disinformation, the NBC investigation found;
> its news sites and YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories
> including QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
>
> In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported in The
> Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times ?used every opportunity to call Biden?s
> victory into doubt? and ?eagerly publicized? Trump?s remarks preceding the
> January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the paper continued to grow. By 2023,
> The Epoch Times claimed that it had the fourth-largest subscriber base of any
> newspaper in the country?and it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685
> percent from 2019 to 2021.
>
> It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this week, Weidong
> ?Bill? Guan, the chief financial officer of the company, was arrested and
> charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million money-laundering scheme.
> Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York charged that a team
> at The Epoch Times called ?Make Money Online? used cryptocurrency to ?knowingly
> purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds.? That allegedly included
> taking fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
> money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has been
> suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating with the
> investigation.
>
> The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest glitches in the
> alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a lawsuit from Smartmatic
> over the network?s election lies; Rudy Giuliani was hit last year with a massive
> judgment for his lies about the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye
> Moss, and his radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of
> the Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
> right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones?s media platform, Free Speech Systems, after
> winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and Trump himself is facing an
> $83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean Carroll ? whom he was found liable for
> sexually assaulting.
>
> https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/
>
> When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?
>
> ?At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism. This is
> tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?? the man asked, to applause from the
> crowd. ?No, and I?m not ? that?s not a joke. I?m not saying it like that. I
> mean, literally, where?s the line? How many elections are they going to steal
> before we kill these people??
>
> https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/
>
> If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on these fucking
> fascist liars?
>
> Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?

Who lied about the laptop?

On 6/7/2024 11:18 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <v3vhc0$25plg$1@dont-email.me>, max.boot@lathymes.com says...
>>
>> Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump?s web of lies recently faced trouble.
>>
>> By Charles Sykes
>>
>> June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET
>>
>> A Notable Climbdown
>>
>> It?s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of Donald
>> Trump?s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last Friday, Salem
>> Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist film 2,000 Mules from its
>> platform and said it would no longer distribute either the movie or an
>> accompanying book by the right-wing activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh
>> D?Souza. It also issued an apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film
>> had falsely depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
>> using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared of any
>> wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews filed a defamation
>> lawsuit in 2022 against D?Souza, Salem, and two individuals associated with a
>> group whose analysis heavily influenced the film.
>>
>> While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News?s $787 million settlement last year
>> with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election, Salem?s climbdown is
>> worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the most influential right-wing media
>> companies in the United States, and in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie
>> version of Trump?s election lies. The film was utterly bogus?a mixture of
>> conjecture and falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
>> played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.
>>
>> Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it ?the greatest and most impactful
>> documentary of our time.? When the movie debuted, Trump hosted a screening at
>> Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy Giuliani, Representative Marjorie
>> Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent
>> talking point for Trump allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election
>> had been stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
>> that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two weeks after
>> it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10 million. Now the producer?s
>> public apology has made clear that the film was based on misleading data and
>> false claims. ["misleading data and false claims", aka *lies*]
>>
>> The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet founded
>> in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun Gong movement. You
>> can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the publication, which is
>> distributed free to households around the world (including mine). But like Salem
>> Media, it plays an important role in the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and
>> spreads conspiracy theories, including disinformation about the 2020 election.
>>
>> In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on pro-Trump
>> Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump campaign itself. The
>> publication also became a vector of disinformation, the NBC investigation found;
>> its news sites and YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories
>> including QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
>>
>> In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported in The
>> Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times ?used every opportunity to call Biden?s
>> victory into doubt? and ?eagerly publicized? Trump?s remarks preceding the
>> January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the paper continued to grow. By 2023,
>> The Epoch Times claimed that it had the fourth-largest subscriber base of any
>> newspaper in the country?and it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685
>> percent from 2019 to 2021.
>>
>> It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this week, Weidong
>> ?Bill? Guan, the chief financial officer of the company, was arrested and
>> charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million money-laundering scheme.
>> Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York charged that a team
>> at The Epoch Times called ?Make Money Online? used cryptocurrency to ?knowingly
>> purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds.? That allegedly included
>> taking fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
>> money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has been
>> suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating with the
>> investigation.
>>
>> The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest glitches in the
>> alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a lawsuit from Smartmatic
>> over the network?s election lies; Rudy Giuliani was hit last year with a massive
>> judgment for his lies about the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye
>> Moss, and his radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of
>> the Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
>> right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones?s media platform, Free Speech Systems, after
>> winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and Trump himself is facing an
>> $83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean Carroll ? whom he was found liable for
>> sexually assaulting.
>>
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/
>>
>> When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?
>>
>> ?At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism. This is
>> tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?? the man asked, to applause from the
>> crowd. ?No, and I?m not ? that?s not a joke. I?m not saying it like that. I
>> mean, literally, where?s the line? How many elections are they going to steal
>> before we kill these people??
>>
>> https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/
>>
>> If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on these fucking
>> fascist liars?
>>
>> Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?
>
> Who lied about the laptop?

Right-wingnut fascists like you, of course.

Jonathan David Ball wrote:
> Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump’s web of lies recently faced trouble.
>
> By Charles Sykes
>
> June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET
>
> A Notable Climbdown
>
> It’s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of Donald
> Trump’s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last Friday, Salem
> Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist film 2,000 Mules from its
> platform and said it would no longer distribute either the movie or an
> accompanying book by the right-wing activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh
> D’Souza. It also issued an apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film
> had falsely depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
> using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared of any
> wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews filed a defamation
> lawsuit in 2022 against D’Souza, Salem, and two individuals associated with a
> group whose analysis heavily influenced the film.
>
> While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News’s $787 million settlement last year
> with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election, Salem’s climbdown is
> worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the most influential right-wing media
> companies in the United States, and in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie
> version of Trump’s election lies. The film was utterly bogus—a mixture of
> conjecture and falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
> played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.
>
> Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it “the greatest and most impactful
> documentary of our time.” When the movie debuted, Trump hosted a screening at
> Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy Giuliani, Representative Marjorie
> Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent
> talking point for Trump allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election
> had been stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
> that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two weeks after
> it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10 million. Now the producer’s
> public apology has made clear that the film was based on misleading data and
> false claims. ["misleading data and false claims", aka *lies*]
>
> The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet founded
> in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun Gong movement. You
> can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the publication, which is
> distributed free to households around the world (including mine). But like Salem
> Media, it plays an important role in the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and
> spreads conspiracy theories, including disinformation about the 2020 election.
>
> In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on pro-Trump
> Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump campaign itself. The
> publication also became a vector of disinformation, the NBC investigation found;
> its news sites and YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories
> including QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
>
> In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported in The
> Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times “used every opportunity to call Biden’s
> victory into doubt” and “eagerly publicized” Trump’s remarks preceding the
> January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the paper continued to grow. By 2023,
> The Epoch Times claimed that it had the fourth-largest subscriber base of any
> newspaper in the country—and it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685
> percent from 2019 to 2021.
>
> It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this week, Weidong
> “Bill” Guan, the chief financial officer of the company, was arrested and
> charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million money-laundering scheme.
> Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York charged that a team
> at The Epoch Times called “Make Money Online” used cryptocurrency to “knowingly
> purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds.” That allegedly included
> taking fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
> money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has been
> suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating with the
> investigation.
>
> The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest glitches in the
> alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a lawsuit from Smartmatic
> over the network’s election lies; Rudy Giuliani was hit last year with a massive
> judgment for his lies about the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye
> Moss, and his radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of
> the Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
> right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones’s media platform, Free Speech Systems, after
> winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and Trump himself is facing an
> $83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean Carroll — whom he was found liable for
> sexually assaulting.
>
> https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/
>
> When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?
>
>    “At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism. This is
>    tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?” the man asked, to applause from the
>    crowd. “No, and I’m not – that’s not a joke. I’m not saying it like that. I
>    mean, literally, where’s the line? How many elections are they going to steal
>    before we kill these people?”
>
> https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/
>
> If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on these fucking
> fascist liars?
>
> Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?
>

You don't have any guns.

We have AR-15s, and we'll obtain full autos when the federal government
collapses.

You're trying to criminalize anyone who speaks out against industrial-
scale Democrat election fraud. For that, you should die.

>
>Who lied about the laptop?
>

I believe the big lie so I'm voting Trump in 2024!

These scandalous charges over Hunter's laptop has assured Trump that Hunter
Biden will never win in November. Expect Hunter to concede the election any
day now, live on Fox News.

On 6/7/2024 3:57 PM, Anonymous wrote:
> Jonathan David Ball wrote:
>> Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump’s web of lies recently faced
>> trouble.
>>
>> By Charles Sykes
>>
>> June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET
>>
>> A Notable Climbdown
>>
>> It’s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of
>> Donald Trump’s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last
>> Friday, Salem Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist
>> film 2,000 Mules from its platform and said it would no longer
>> distribute either the movie or an accompanying book by the right-wing
>> activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh D’Souza. It also issued an
>> apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film had falsely
>> depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
>> using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared
>> of any wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews
>> filed a defamation lawsuit in 2022 against D’Souza, Salem, and two
>> individuals associated with a group whose analysis heavily influenced
>> the film.
>>
>> While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News’s $787 million settlement
>> last year with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election,
>> Salem’s climbdown is worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the
>> most influential right-wing media companies in the United States, and
>> in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie version of Trump’s election
>> lies. The film was utterly bogus—a mixture of conjecture and
>> falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
>> played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.
>>
>> Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it “the greatest and most
>> impactful documentary of our time.” When the movie debuted, Trump
>> hosted a screening at Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy
>> Giuliani, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy,
>> Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent talking point for Trump
>> allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election had been
>> stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
>> that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two
>> weeks after it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10
>> million. Now the producer’s public apology has made clear that the
>> film was based on misleading data and false claims. ["misleading data
>> and false claims", aka *lies*]
>>
>> The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet
>> founded in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun
>> Gong movement. You can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the
>> publication, which is distributed free to households around the world
>> (including mine). But like Salem Media, it plays an important role in
>> the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and spreads conspiracy theories,
>> including disinformation about the 2020 election.
>>
>> In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on
>> pro-Trump Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump
>> campaign itself. The publication also became a vector of
>> disinformation, the NBC investigation found; its news sites and
>> YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories including
>> QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
>>
>> In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported
>> in The Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times “used every opportunity to
>> call Biden’s victory into doubt” and “eagerly publicized” Trump’s
>> remarks preceding the January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the
>> paper continued to grow. By 2023, The Epoch Times claimed that it had
>> the fourth-largest subscriber base of any newspaper in the country—and
>> it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685 percent from 2019 to 2021.
>>
>> It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this
>> week, Weidong “Bill” Guan, the chief financial officer of the company,
>> was arrested and charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million
>> money-laundering scheme. Federal prosecutors from the Southern
>> District of New York charged that a team at The Epoch Times called
>> “Make Money Online” used cryptocurrency to “knowingly purchase tens of
>> millions of dollars in crime proceeds.” That allegedly included taking
>> fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
>> money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has
>> been suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating
>> with the investigation.
>>
>> The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest
>> glitches in the alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a
>> lawsuit from Smartmatic over the network’s election lies; Rudy
>> Giuliani was hit last year with a massive judgment for his lies about
>> the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, and his
>> radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of the
>> Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
>> right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones’s media platform, Free Speech
>> Systems, after winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and
>> Trump himself is facing an $83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean
>> Carroll — whom he was found liable for sexually assaulting.
>>
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/
>>
>> When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?
>>
>>     “At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism.
>> This is
>>     tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?” the man asked, to
>> applause from the
>>     crowd. “No, and I’m not – that’s not a joke. I’m not saying it
>> like that. I
>>     mean, literally, where’s the line? How many elections are they
>> going to steal
>>     before we kill these people?”
>>
>> https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/
>>
>> If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on
>> these fucking fascist liars?
>>
>> Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?
>>
>
> You don't have any guns.
>
> We have AR-15s, and we'll obtain full autos when the federal government
> collapses.
>
> You're trying to criminalize anyone who speaks out against industrial-
> scale Democrat election fraud. For that, you should die.

TY!

On 6/7/2024 11:51 AM, Max Boot wrote:
> Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?

I would put you in the wood chipper, sure!

On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 10:51:57 -0700, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:

>Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump’s web of lies recently faced trouble.
>
>By Charles Sykes
>
>June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET
>
>A Notable Climbdown
>
>It’s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of Donald
>Trump’s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last Friday, Salem
>Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist film 2,000 Mules from its
>platform and said it would no longer distribute either the movie or an
>accompanying book by the right-wing activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh
>D’Souza. It also issued an apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film
>had falsely depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
>using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared of any
>wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews filed a defamation
>lawsuit in 2022 against D’Souza, Salem, and two individuals associated with a
>group whose analysis heavily influenced the film.
>
>While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News’s $787 million settlement last year
>with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election, Salem’s climbdown is
>worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the most influential right-wing media
>companies in the United States, and in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie
>version of Trump’s election lies. The film was utterly bogus—a mixture of
>conjecture and falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
>played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.
>
>Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it “the greatest and most impactful
>documentary of our time.” When the movie debuted, Trump hosted a screening at
>Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy Giuliani, Representative Marjorie
>Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent
>talking point for Trump allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election
>had been stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
>that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two weeks after
>it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10 million. Now the producer’s
>public apology has made clear that the film was based on misleading data and
>false claims. ["misleading data and false claims", aka *lies*]
>
>The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet founded
>in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun Gong movement. You
>can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the publication, which is
>distributed free to households around the world (including mine). But like Salem
>Media, it plays an important role in the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and
>spreads conspiracy theories, including disinformation about the 2020 election.
>
>In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on pro-Trump
>Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump campaign itself. The
>publication also became a vector of disinformation, the NBC investigation found;
>its news sites and YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories
>including QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
>
>In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported in The
>Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times “used every opportunity to call Biden’s
>victory into doubt” and “eagerly publicized” Trump’s remarks preceding the
>January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the paper continued to grow. By 2023,
>The Epoch Times claimed that it had the fourth-largest subscriber base of any
>newspaper in the country—and it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685
>percent from 2019 to 2021.
>
>It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this week, Weidong
>“Bill” Guan, the chief financial officer of the company, was arrested and
>charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million money-laundering scheme.
>Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York charged that a team
>at The Epoch Times called “Make Money Online” used cryptocurrency to “knowingly
>purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds.” That allegedly included
>taking fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
>money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has been
>suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating with the
>investigation.
>
>The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest glitches in the
>alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a lawsuit from Smartmatic
>over the network’s election lies; Rudy Giuliani was hit last year with a massive
>judgment for his lies about the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye
>Moss, and his radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of
>the Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
>right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones’s media platform, Free Speech Systems, after
>winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and Trump himself is facing an
>$83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean Carroll — whom he was found liable for
>sexually assaulting.
>
>https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/
>
>When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?

There's no need. The justice system is doing a pretty good job. As more people sue right
wing radical liars, the rest will realize it's too dangerous to continue lying.

> “At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism. This is
> tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?” the man asked, to applause from the
> crowd. “No, and I’m not – that’s not a joke. I’m not saying it like that. I
> mean, literally, where’s the line? How many elections are they going to steal
> before we kill these people?”
>
>https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/
>
>If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on these fucking
>fascist liars?
>
>Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?

File a lawsuit. Find a donor with deep pockets and be sure you have standing to sue
whatever right wing freak you've decided to tax down.

Jones is beaten down, Epoch, Gateway Pundit, Fox, OAN, Newsmax ...

Plenty more lying bags of shit to sue into non existence.

Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

On 6/8/2024 12:28 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
>
> Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
>
> Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
>
> Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

So just exactly when are you going to sign up to go fight there
yourself, Jonathan 'little man' Ball?

You stolen valor, gutless, hypocritical Suckramento lawn puke!

In article <lg896jhctd3queqc0etof3hfm19ircmsig@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 10:51:57 -0700, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:
>
> >Two influential purveyors of Donald Trump?s web of lies recently faced trouble.
> >
> >By Charles Sykes
> >
> >June 6, 2024, 6:06 PM ET
> >
> >A Notable Climbdown
> >
> >It?s been a very bad week for two of the most prominent purveyors of Donald
> >Trump?s webs of lies about the 2020 presidential election. Last Friday, Salem
> >Media Group announced that it had removed the fabulist film 2,000 Mules from its
> >platform and said it would no longer distribute either the movie or an
> >accompanying book by the right-wing activist and Trump-pardoned felon Dinesh
> >D?Souza. It also issued an apology to Mark Andrews, a Georgia man whom the film
> >had falsely depicted participating in a conspiracy to rig the 2020 election by
> >using so-called mules to stuff ballot drop boxes. After being cleared of any
> >wrongdoing by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Andrews filed a defamation
> >lawsuit in 2022 against D?Souza, Salem, and two individuals associated with a
> >group whose analysis heavily influenced the film.
> >
> >While perhaps not as dramatic as Fox News?s $787 million settlement last year
> >with Dominion Voting Systems for lying about the election, Salem?s climbdown is
> >worth paying attention to. Salem is one of the most influential right-wing media
> >companies in the United States, and in many ways, 2,000 Mules was the movie
> >version of Trump?s election lies. The film was utterly bogus?a mixture of
> >conjecture and falsehoods that were easily discredited by fact-checkers. But it
> >played a major role in shaping Republican skepticism about the election.
> >
> >Trump himself embraced 2,000 Mules, calling it ?the greatest and most impactful
> >documentary of our time.? When the movie debuted, Trump hosted a screening at
> >Mar-a-Lago featuring such MAGA stars as Rudy Giuliani, Representative Marjorie
> >Taylor Greene, and the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. The film became a frequent
> >talking point for Trump allies who alleged that the 2020 presidential election
> >had been stolen. And it found some level of mainstream appeal: Salem announced
> >that more than 1 million people watched the movie in the first two weeks after
> >it was released in May 2022, grossing more than $10 million. Now the producer?s
> >public apology has made clear that the film was based on misleading data and
> >false claims. ["misleading data and false claims", aka *lies*]
> >
> >The second recent development involved The Epoch Times, a media outlet founded
> >in 2000 by an Atlanta-based practitioner of the Chinese Falun Gong movement. You
> >can be forgiven if you are only dimly aware of the publication, which is
> >distributed free to households around the world (including mine). But like Salem
> >Media, it plays an important role in the media ecosystem that boosts Trump and
> >spreads conspiracy theories, including disinformation about the 2020 election.
> >
> >In 2019, NBC reported that The Epoch Times had spent more money on pro-Trump
> >Facebook advertisements than any group other than the Trump campaign itself. The
> >publication also became a vector of disinformation, the NBC investigation found;
> >its news sites and YouTube channels were used to popularize conspiracy theories
> >including QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.
> >
> >In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Simon van Zuylen-Wood reported in The
> >Atlantic in 2021, The Epoch Times ?used every opportunity to call Biden?s
> >victory into doubt? and ?eagerly publicized? Trump?s remarks preceding the
> >January 6 insurrection. And all that time, the paper continued to grow. By 2023,
> >The Epoch Times claimed that it had the fourth-largest subscriber base of any
> >newspaper in the country?and it had apparently boosted its revenue by 685
> >percent from 2019 to 2021.
> >
> >It sounded too good to be true, maybe because it was. Earlier this week, Weidong
> >?Bill? Guan, the chief financial officer of the company, was arrested and
> >charged with involvement in a multiyear, $67 million money-laundering scheme.
> >Federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York charged that a team
> >at The Epoch Times called ?Make Money Online? used cryptocurrency to ?knowingly
> >purchase tens of millions of dollars in crime proceeds.? That allegedly included
> >taking fraudulently obtained unemployment-insurance benefits and loading the
> >money onto prepaid debit cards. Guan has pleaded not guilty, but has been
> >suspended by The Epoch Times, which says that it is cooperating with the
> >investigation.
> >
> >The setbacks for Salem and The Epoch Times are just the latest glitches in the
> >alternative-reality universe. Fox News still faces a lawsuit from Smartmatic
> >over the network?s election lies; Rudy Giuliani was hit last year with a massive
> >judgment for his lies about the Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye
> >Moss, and his radio show was canceled by WABC; the families of the victims of
> >the Sandy Hook massacre are asking a bankruptcy court to liquidate the
> >right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones?s media platform, Free Speech Systems, after
> >winning $1.5 billion in damages for defamation; and Trump himself is facing an
> >$83 million judgment for defaming E. Jean Carroll ? whom he was found liable for
> >sexually assaulting.
> >
> >https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/06/a-bad-week-for-backers-of-the-big-lie/678623/
> >
> >When do we get to use the guns on these fucking fascist liars?
>
> There's no need. The justice system is doing a pretty good job. As more people sue right
> wing radical liars, the rest will realize it's too dangerous to continue lying.
>
> > ?At this point, we're living under corporate and medical fascism. This is
> > tyranny. When do we get to use the guns?? the man asked, to applause from the
> > crowd. ?No, and I?m not ? that?s not a joke. I?m not saying it like that. I
> > mean, literally, where?s the line? How many elections are they going to steal
> > before we kill these people??
> >
> >https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2021/10/27/when-do-we-get-use-guns-tpusa-owns-and-others-too/8570812002/
> >
> >If he can say it, I can say it. When do we get to use the guns on these fucking
> >fascist liars?
> >
> >Will no one rid us of these turbulent fascist liars?
>
> File a lawsuit. Find a donor with deep pockets and be sure you have standing to sue
> whatever right wing freak you've decided to tax down.
>
> Jones is beaten down, Epoch, Gateway Pundit, Fox, OAN, Newsmax ...
>
> Plenty more lying bags of shit to sue into non existence.
>
The only way you can win. How about the media that said the laptop never
existed?