(snip back at you)

So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:

> (snip back at you)
>
> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.

"Who believes in God"?

If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
the fundamentalists conceive it.

The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
God. Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.

--
-c

Creon wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>
>> (snip back at you)
>>
>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>
> "Who believes in God"?
>
> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>
> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
> God. Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>
no it isn't

On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>
>> (snip back at you)
>>
>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>
> "Who believes in God"?
>
> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
> the fundamentalists conceive it.

> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
> God. Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.

You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
truth of the original message...

"Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the
west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God does it all.

I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to soften
that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.

However, there is something that might help. Let's say you would just
grow older and older and older and never die. Would death, an evil, now
become a good?"

You just have to trust God at the end of the day, and at the beginning.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

In the Name of Jesus wrote:
> On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>
>>> (snip back at you)
>>>
>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>
>> "Who believes in God"?
>>
>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>
>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>> God.  Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>
> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
> truth of the original message...
>
> "Isaiah 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>
> Isaiah 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
> none else.
>
> Isaiah 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>
> God does it all.
>
> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.

so God creates evil. thanks for that.

>
> However, there is something that might help. Let's say you would just
> grow older and older and older and never die. Would death, an evil,
> now become a good?"
>
>
>
> You just have to trust God at the end of the day, and at the beginning.
>
>
>
>
> In the Name of Jesus
>

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On 2/06/2024 5:08 pm, Maximus wrote:
> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>> On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>
>>>> (snip back at you)
>>>>
>>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>>
>>> "Who believes in God"?
>>>
>>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>>
>>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>>> God.  Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>>
>> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
>> truth of the original message...
>>
>> "Isaiah 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>
>> Isaiah 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
>> none else.
>>
>> Isaiah 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>
>> God does it all.
>>
>> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
>> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.

Maximus wrote:
> so God creates evil. thanks for that.

But was it okay to create you?

Of course God created evil; it has a good purpose, not that you can see
that. However, you don't understand the length, breath, and depth of why
God does what He does. That is where trust comes in—real trust.

But you were given a view from afar, a hint, at no charge. To get to
know God, it takes a series of small steps, but if you don't want to,
okay, you have that choice.

In the Name of Jesus

>
>>
>> However, there is something that might help. Let's say you would just
>> grow older and older and older and never die. Would death, an evil,
>> now become a good?"
>>
>>
>>
>> You just have to trust God at the end of the day, and at the beginning.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>>
>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

In article <lc2k2iFeki3U2@mid.individual.net>,
Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
>In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>> On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>
>>>> (snip back at you)
>>>>
>>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>>
>>> "Who believes in God"?
>>>
>>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>>
>>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>>> God.  Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>>
>> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
>> truth of the original message...
>>
>> "Isaiah 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>
>> Isaiah 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
>> none else.
>>
>> Isaiah 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>
>> God does it all.
>>
>> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
>> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.
>
>
>so God creates evil. thanks for that.
>

You way are not my way. You thoughts are not my thought.

>>
>> However, there is something that might help. Let's say you would just
>> grow older and older and older and never die. Would death, an evil,
>> now become a good?"
>>
>>
>>
>> You just have to trust God at the end of the day, and at the beginning.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>>
>
>
>--
>“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23
>
>"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"
>
>"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"
>
>"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
>The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."
>
>"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
>the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"
>

--
Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ;
United Kingdom save the NAtion on 4 July 2024 vote Liberal Democrat

In article <v3hika$3a4fb$2@dont-email.me>,
In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>On 2/06/2024 5:08 pm, Maximus wrote:
>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>> On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (snip back at you)
>>>>>
>>>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>>>
>>>> "Who believes in God"?
>>>>
>>>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>>>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>>>
>>>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>>>> God.  Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>>>
>>> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
>>> truth of the original message...
>>>
>>> "Isaiah 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>>
>>> Isaiah 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
>>> none else.
>>>
>>> Isaiah 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>>
>>> God does it all.
>>>
>>> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
>>> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.
>
>Maximus wrote:
>> so God creates evil. thanks for that.
>
>But was it okay to create you?
>
>Of course God created evil; it has a good purpose, not that you can see
>that. However, you don't understand the length, breath, and depth of why
>God does what He does. That is where trust comes in—real trust.
>
>But you were given a view from afar, a hint, at no charge. To get to
>know God, it takes a series of small steps, but if you don't want to,
>okay, you have that choice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>In the Name of Jesus
>

Maximus is psychologically screwed up.

>>
>>>
>>> However, there is something that might help. Let's say you would just
>>> grow older and older and older and never die. Would death, an evil,
>>> now become a good?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You just have to trust God at the end of the day, and at the beginning.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the Name of Jesus
>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>God is God in all His Being.
>
>Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
>10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
>everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>
>Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>
>Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>
>Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
>is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>
>Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
>are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>
>Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>
>"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>
>"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>
>"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
>God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>
>"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
>God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
>sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>
>"Compromise will condemn you."
>
>"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>
>"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>
>"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
>know that?"
>
>"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>
>"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>where God intends."
>
>"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>
>"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
>live, by faith."
>
>"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>
>"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
>ahead."
>
>"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>
>"Priority is everything."
>
>"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>
>"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
>it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>
>"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>
>"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
>an ignorant straw man."
>
>"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>
>"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>
>"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
>and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>
>The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
>obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>
>"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>
>"Man is not the centre of being."
>
>"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>
>"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>
>"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>
>"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>
>"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>
>"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
>willingness to believe."
>
>"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
>and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>
>"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
>full of hope."
>
>"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
>through it so that a sinner could play God."
>
>"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>
>"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
>is the love of God."
>
>"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
>pretending he is the meaning of life."
>
>"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
>still according to my power," says the Lord.
>
>What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
>order to explain the existence of existence.
>
>"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>
>"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
>  What a gift in a fallen world!"
>
>"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>
>"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
>that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
>the glory of God"
>
>"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
>isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
>road."
>
>"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
>and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
>punished; it is what you are left with."
>
>"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
>birth it in a man."
>
>"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
>self-righteousness."
>
>"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>
>"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
>The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>
>"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>
>"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>
>"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>
>"There is no such thing as random!"
>
>"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>
>"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
>you know nothing."
>
>"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>
>"No sinner is sinless in any way."
>
>"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>
>"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
>a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>
>"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>
>"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>
>"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
>exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
>really are."
>
>"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
>
>"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
>Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
>know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
>
>"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
>light did not ever become darkness."
>

On 2/06/2024 10:41 pm, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <v3hika$3a4fb$2@dont-email.me>,
> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>> On 2/06/2024 5:08 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>> On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip back at you)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Who believes in God"?
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>>>>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>>>>
>>>>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>>>>> God.  Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>>>>
>>>> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
>>>> truth of the original message...
>>>>
>>>> "Isaiah 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>>>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>>>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
>>>> none else.
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>>>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>>>
>>>> God does it all.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
>>>> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.
>>
>> Maximus wrote:
>>> so God creates evil. thanks for that.
>>
>> But was it okay to create you?
>>
>> Of course God created evil; it has a good purpose, not that you can see
>> that. However, you don't understand the length, breath, and depth of why
>> God does what He does. That is where trust comes in—real trust.
>>
>> But you were given a view from afar, a hint, at no charge. To get to
>> know God, it takes a series of small steps, but if you don't want to,
>> okay, you have that choice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>>
>
> Maximus is psychologically screwed up.

It is a heart problem.

Maximus is trying, like all atheists, to lay a foundation on
meaninglessness, on thin air. It is a futile and heavy burden he places
on himself.

Maximus is, like us all, dependent, vulnerable, and needy. We all need
the Lord, just as we need oxygen for our lungs. And personally, I love
that need.

Those who do not know God are gasping for meaning and floating on the
ocean of vanity like lost sticks being swept this way and that by all
the delusion of man.

In the Name of Jesus

>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, there is something that might help. Let's say you would just
>>>> grow older and older and older and never die. Would death, an evil,
>>>> now become a good?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You just have to trust God at the end of the day, and at the beginning.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the Name of Jesus
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> God is God in all His Being.
>>
>> Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
>> 10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
>> everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>>
>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>
>> Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>> YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>>
>> Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
>> is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>>
>> Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
>> are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>>
>> Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>> hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>>
>> "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>>
>> "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>>
>> "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
>> God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>>
>> "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
>> God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
>> sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>>
>> "Compromise will condemn you."
>>
>> "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>>
>> "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>>
>> "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
>> know that?"
>>
>> "The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>>
>> "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>> where God intends."
>>
>> "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>>
>> "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
>> live, by faith."
>>
>> "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>>
>> "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
>> ahead."
>>
>> "You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>>
>> "Priority is everything."
>>
>> "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>>
>> "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
>> it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>>
>> "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>>
>> "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
>> an ignorant straw man."
>>
>> "Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>>
>> "No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>>
>> "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
>> and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>>
>> The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
>> obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>>
>> "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>>
>> "Man is not the centre of being."
>>
>> "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>>
>> "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>>
>> "Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>>
>> "Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>>
>> "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>>
>> "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
>> willingness to believe."
>>
>> "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
>> and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>>
>> "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
>> full of hope."
>>
>> "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
>> through it so that a sinner could play God."
>>
>> "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>>
>> "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
>> is the love of God."
>>
>> "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
>> pretending he is the meaning of life."
>>
>> "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
>> still according to my power," says the Lord.
>>
>> What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
>> order to explain the existence of existence.
>>
>> "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>>
>> "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
>>  What a gift in a fallen world!"
>>
>> "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>>
>> "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
>> that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
>> the glory of God"
>>
>> "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
>> isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
>> road."
>>
>> "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
>> and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
>> punished; it is what you are left with."
>>
>> "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
>> birth it in a man."
>>
>> "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
>> self-righteousness."
>>
>> "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>>
>> "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
>> The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>>
>> "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>>
>> "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>>
>> "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>>
>> "There is no such thing as random!"
>>
>> "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>>
>> "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
>> you know nothing."
>>
>> "You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>>
>> "No sinner is sinless in any way."
>>
>> "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>>
>> "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
>> a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>>
>> "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>>
>> "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>>
>> "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
>> exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
>> really are."
>>
>> "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
>>
>> "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
>> Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
>> know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
>>
>> "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
>> light did not ever become darkness."
>>
>
>

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <v3hika$3a4fb$2@dont-email.me>,
> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>> On 2/06/2024 5:08 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>> On 1/06/2024 10:29 pm, Creon wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:50:47 +1000, In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip back at you)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>>>> "Who believes in God"?
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>>>>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>>>>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>>>>> God.  Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>>>> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
>>>> truth of the original message...
>>>>
>>>> "Isaiah 45:5  I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>>>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 45:6  That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>>>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
>>>> none else.
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 45:7  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>>>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>>>
>>>> God does it all.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
>>>> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.
>> Maximus wrote:
>>> so God creates evil. thanks for that.
>> But was it okay to create you?
>>
>> Of course God created evil; it has a good purpose, not that you can see
>> that. However, you don't understand the length, breath, and depth of why
>> God does what He does. That is where trust comes in—real trust.
>>
>> But you were given a view from afar, a hint, at no charge. To get to
>> know God, it takes a series of small steps, but if you don't want to,
>> okay, you have that choice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>>
> Maximus is psychologically screwed up.

oh the irony of ppl who believe in angles and demons, heaven and hell,
and ppl rising from the dead calling sensible ppl screwed up

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

"Maximus" wrote in message news:lc634qF19sU1@mid.individual.net...
> The Doctor wrote:
>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>> Maximus wrote:
>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>> Creon wrote:
>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>>>>>>> (snip back at you)
>>>>>>> So much to declare but you couldn't address what was said.
>>>>>> "Who believes in God"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there is a God, it's not the "god of the Bible", as
>>>>>> the fundamentalists conceive it.
>>>>>> The Bible is ancient literature with a lot of myths about
>>>>>> God. Taking it literally _slanders_ God Almighty.
>>>>> You might believe that but it does not negate the testimony and the
>>>>> truth of the original message...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Isaiah 45:5Â I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God
>>>>> beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
>>>>>
>>>>> Isaiah 45:6Â That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from
>>>>> the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is
>>>>> none else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isaiah 45:7Â I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
>>>>> create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>>>>
>>>>> God does it all.
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt if anyone here would grasp that. The "Christians" like to
>>>>> soften that and not call it "evil" but "calamity," but it is evil.
>>> Maximus wrote:
>>>> so God creates evil. thanks for that.
>>> But was it okay to create you?
>>>
>>> Of course God created evil; it has a good purpose, not that you can see
>>> that. However, you don't understand the length, breath, and depth of why
>>> God does what He does. That is where trust comes in—real trust.
>>>
>>> But you were given a view from afar, a hint, at no charge. To get to
>>> know God, it takes a series of small steps, but if you don't want to,
>>> okay, you have that choice.
>>>
>>> In the Name of Jesus
>>>
>> Maximus is psychologically screwed up.
>
> oh the irony of ppl who believe in angles and demons, heaven and hell,
> and ppl rising from the dead calling sensible ppl screwed up

Jesus was raised from the dead. We have
solid evidence for this. In fact, *everyone*
is~going to be "raised up", including you!

"Marvel not at this; for the hour is coming
in which ALL that are in the graves shall
hear His voice and shall come forth - they
that have done good, unto the resurrection
of life, and they that have done evil, unto
the resurrection of damnation." ~ Jesus
John 5:28-29