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Subject: Re: As a Born Again Believer Itâs Not in Your Nature to Sin Anymore
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On 1/06/2024 1:54 pm, Robert wrote:
> All these scriptures are of the Doctrines of Christ Jesus.
>
> You have a choice, believe them in their entirety, or deny them and state
> that God Speaks out of both sides of His mouth and contradicts himself so
> much so that he word does indeed Fail, and will Not accomplish that for which
> it is sent.
>
> So then if there is a third option, then rectify it by incorporating it into
> the spiritual understanding of this scriptures and show how there is in no
> manner any conflict with any of these scriptures.
>
> This is open for anyone to do, and this is something I have asked AI Rosie to
> do, all along. The very best that AI R has done is call me a liar, and in
> doing so tarnishes the Word of God. A God who cannot lie, whose word I quote.
> Show AI R from scripture that a Born Again Believer who walks in the Spirit
> can successfully walk on both sides of the street, directly comparing
> scripture to scripture, in context and we can resume a discussion. Show from
> Scripture how I can be satanic as you claim. Tie these scriptures and your
> excuses together and show us all how one can commit sin by being under the
> burden of a Sin Nature, when the Nature of a Believer is Divine without that
> person failing.
>
> IOW wrap it up with a nice bow, in brotherly love without destroying the
> truth of the scriptures below, and there are many more like this in both the
> Old and New covenants,
>
> Dead to Sin, Alive to God
>
> Rom 6:3-14 (KJV)
>
> 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were
> baptized into his death?
>
> 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ
> was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also
> should walk in newness of life.
>
> 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall
> be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
>
> 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin
> might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
>
> 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
>
> 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
>
> 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no
> more dominion over him.
>
> 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he
> liveth unto God.
>
> 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive
> unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
>
> 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in
> the lusts thereof.
>
> 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin:
> but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and
> your membersas instruments of righteousness unto God.
>
> 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law,
> but under grace.
>
> The Divine Nature of the Born Again Believer.
>
> 2Pe 1:4-10 (KJV)
>
> 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by
> these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the
> corruption that is in the world through lust.
>
> 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to
> virtue knowledge;
>
> 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience
> godliness;
>
> 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
>
> 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall
> neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and
> hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
>
> 10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and
> election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

(KJV)
1Pe 4:1  Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm
yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the
flesh hath ceased from sin;

1Pe 4:2  That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh
to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.

"Should," shouldn't be in there.

Ceased from sin means ceased from sin, and there is no "should" about
it. Death to life!

1Jn 3:6  Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath
not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7  Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth
righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth
from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that
he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed
remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

There is no revolving whore door that treats the Lord like a prostitute.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."


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