https://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-glitch-makes-scientists-rethink-einstein-greatest-theory-2024-5

"A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing astronomers to rethink
Einstein's theory of relativity"

--
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"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

"Maximus" wrote in message news:lbiomlFjgvpU1@mid.individual.net...
> https://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-glitch-makes-scientists-rethink-einstein-greatest-theory-2024->
> "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing astronomer
> s to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"

"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist

On 5/27/2024 1:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-glitch-makes-scientists-rethink-einstein-greatest-theory-2024-5
>
> "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing astronomers to rethink
> Einstein's theory of relativity"
>

From Business Insider??

On 5/27/2024 3:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
> "Maximus" wrote in message news:lbiomlFjgvpU1@mid.individual.net...
>> https://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-glitch-makes-scientists-rethink-einstein-greatest-theory-2024-> "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing astronomer
>> s to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>
> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from
> the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost
> beyond question."                     ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist

Fred Hoyle (1915–2001)

"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v33ie2$ec2t$2@dont-email.me...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>
>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>
> Fred Hoyle (1915–2001)

A humanist who eventually acknowledged
the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.

"Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in news:6jg5O.59930$1sO4.1274
@fx12.ams4:

> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v33ie2$ec2t$2@dont-email.me...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>
>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>
>> Fred Hoyle (1915–2001)
>
> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>
>

An astronomer whose state-state
theory was so goofy he was run out
of the scientific community and
turned to writing mediocre science
fiction.

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB180511A36944629555@185.151.15.190...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>
>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>
>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>
>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>
> An astronomer whose state-state
> theory was so goofy he was run out
> of the scientific community and
> turned to writing mediocre science
> fiction.

He, like all of us, did have some goofy
ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.

On Tue, 28 May 2024 09:27:16 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<pBn5O.92015$HQG4.13349@fx13.ams4> wrote:

>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB180511A36944629555@185.151.15.190...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>
>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>
>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>
>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>
>> An astronomer whose state-state
>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>> of the scientific community and
>> turned to writing mediocre science
>> fiction.
>
>He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.

Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
cannot be a nut somewhere else.

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

On 5/28/2024 11:27 AM, Andrew wrote:
> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsB180511A36944629555@185.151.15.190...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>  Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "Maximus" wrote:    "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>
>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>> calculates from  the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>                    ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>
>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>
>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>
>>   An astronomer whose state-state
>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>> of the scientific community and
>> turned to writing mediocre science
>> fiction.
>
> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>

Your argument is just an "appeal to authority". If you want to believe
Hoyle, go right ahead. Just know that his position was in the minority;
that does not make what he claimed to be false. (Indeed, if God exists,
then God exists!) On the other hand, studies have shown that the
"consensus view" is often the correct view. An example is where a group
of people estimate how many marbles are in a jar; the group average is
typically closer than any one person's estimate.

Dawn

On 5/29/2024 6:35 AM, Attila wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 09:27:16 -0700, "Andrew"
> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <pBn5O.92015$HQG4.13349@fx13.ams4> wrote:
>
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB180511A36944629555@185.151.15.190...
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>
>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>
>>> An astronomer whose state-state
>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>> of the scientific community and
>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>> fiction.
>>
>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>
> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
> with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>

And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and General
Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception, attacked
repeatedly over the last century. So far, Albert's models have held up!
I suspect that this time around will be yet another "rinse & repeat"
episode.

Dawn

"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v37hiv$16ksp$3@dont-email.me...
> Attila wrote:
>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>>
>>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>>
>>>> An astronomer whose state-state
>>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>>> of the scientific community and
>>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>>> fiction.
>>>
>>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>>
>> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
>> with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
>> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>
> And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and
> General Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception,
> attacked repeatedly over the last century. So far, Albert's
> models have held up! I suspect that this time around will be
> yet another "rinse & repeat" episode.
>
> Dawn

The more I study science, the more I believe in God.
The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
feeling the weight of their chains which they have
thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures
who in their grudge against traditional religion as
the opium of the masses' - cannot hear the music
of the spheres" ~ Albert Einstein

On Thu, 30 May 2024 13:59:31 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<AM56O.25054$VHc9.18636@fx04.ams4> wrote:

>"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v37hiv$16ksp$3@dont-email.me...
>> Attila wrote:
>>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>>>
>>>>> An astronomer whose state-state
>>>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>>>> of the scientific community and
>>>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>>>> fiction.
>>>>
>>>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>>>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>>>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>>>
>>> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
>>> with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
>>> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>>
>> And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and
>> General Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception,
>> attacked repeatedly over the last century. So far, Albert's
>> models have held up! I suspect that this time around will be
>> yet another "rinse & repeat" episode.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> The more I study science, the more I believe in God.
> The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
> feeling the weight of their chains which they have
> thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures
> who in their grudge against traditional religion as
> the opium of the masses' - cannot hear the music
> of the spheres" ~ Albert Einstein

As I said"

"Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
cannot be a nut somewhere else."

--

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

On 5/30/2024 3:59 PM, Andrew wrote:
> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v37hiv$16ksp$3@dont-email.me...
>> Attila wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>   Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote:    "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>>>> calculates from  the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>>>>                     ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>>>
>>>>>    An astronomer whose state-state
>>>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>>>> of the scientific community and
>>>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>>>> fiction.
>>>>
>>>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>>>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>>>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>>>
>>> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
>>> with ether.   Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
>>> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>>
>> And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and
>> General Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception,
>> attacked repeatedly over the last century.  So far, Albert's
>> models have held up! I suspect that this time around will be
>> yet another "rinse & repeat" episode.
>>
>> Dawn
>
>   The more I study science, the more I believe in God.
>   The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
>   feeling the weight of their chains which they have
>   thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures
>   who in their grudge against traditional religion as
>   the opium of the masses' - cannot hear the music
>   of the spheres"               ~ Albert Einstein
>

In one of his last letters, Professor Einstein stated, "The word God is
for me nothing but the expression and product of human weakness."

https://www.christies.com/en/stories/albert-einstein-god-letter-7c775f5e483d4834af7baa6da2890f32

He also stated:

"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal god is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein

Andrew, please stop misquoting people! It's dishonest!!

Dawn

"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v3ashi$1s42g$1@dont-email.me...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>> Attila wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An astronomer whose state-state
>>>>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>>>>> of the scientific community and
>>>>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>>>>> fiction.
>>>>>
>>>>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>>>>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>>>>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>>>>
>>>> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
>>>> with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
>>>> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>>>
>>> And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and
>>> General Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception,
>>> attacked repeatedly over the last century. So far, Albert's
>>> models have held up! I suspect that this time around will be
>>> yet another "rinse & repeat" episode.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> The more I study science, the more I believe in God.
>> The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
>> feeling the weight of their chains which they have
>> thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures
>> who in their grudge against traditional religion as
>> the opium of the masses' - cannot hear the music
>> of the spheres" ~ Albert Einstein
>
> In one of his last letters, Professor Einstein stated, "The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human
> weakness."
>
> https://www.christies.com/en/stories/albert-einstein-god-letter-7c775f5e483d4834af7baa6da2890f32
>
> He also stated:
>
> "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal god is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do
> not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the
> fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our
> intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>
> Andrew, please stop misquoting people! It's dishonest!!

Did not.

> Dawn

"A scientific discovery is also a religious discovery.
There is no conflict between science and religion.
Our knowledge of God is made larger with every
discovery we make about the world."
~ Robert Boyle

"Science without religion is lame, religion without
science is blind." ~ Albert Einstein

On 5/31/24 12:12 AM, Andrew wrote:
>"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v3ashi$1s42g$1@dont-email.me...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>>>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An astronomer whose state-state
>>>>>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>>>>>> of the scientific community and
>>>>>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>>>>>> fiction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>>>>>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>>>>>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
>>>>> with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
>>>>> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>>>>
>>>> And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and
>>>> General Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception,
>>>> attacked repeatedly over the last century. So far, Albert's
>>>> models have held up! I suspect that this time around will be
>>>> yet another "rinse & repeat" episode.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> The more I study science, the more I believe in God.
>>> The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
>>> feeling the weight of their chains which they have
>>> thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures
>>> who in their grudge against traditional religion as
>>> the opium of the masses' - cannot hear the music
>>> of the spheres" ~ Albert Einstein
>>
>> In one of his last letters, Professor Einstein stated, "The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human
>> weakness."
>>
>> https://www.christies.com/en/stories/albert-einstein-god-letter-7c775f5e483d4834af7baa6da2890f32
>>
>> He also stated:
>>
>> "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal god is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do
>> not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the
>> fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our
>> intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>
>> Andrew, please stop misquoting people! It's dishonest!!
>
>Did not.
>
>> Dawn
>
>"A scientific discovery is also a religious discovery.
> There is no conflict between science and religion.
> Our knowledge of God is made larger with every
> discovery we make about the world."
> ~ Robert Boyle
>
> "Science without religion is lame, religion without
> science is blind." ~ Albert Einstein
>

Oh, yes, a 17th-century quote! And, more cherry-picking from Professor
Einstein.

Dawn

"Dawn Flood" <wrote in message news:v3e21s$2jpe7$1@dont-email.me...
>Andrew wrote:
>>"Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>> Attila wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Maximus" wrote: "A 'cosmic glitch' in the universe is forcing
>>>>>>>>>>> astronomers to rethink Einstein's theory of relativity"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests
>>>>>>>>>>> that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well
>>>>>>>>>>> as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind
>>>>>>>>>>> forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one
>>>>>>>>>>> calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming
>>>>>>>>>>> as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Fred Hoyle, astrophysicist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fred Hoyle (1915â?"2001)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A humanist who eventually acknowledged
>>>>>>>>> the evidence for design, an thus a Designer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An astronomer whose state-state
>>>>>>>> theory was so goofy he was run out
>>>>>>>> of the scientific community and
>>>>>>>> turned to writing mediocre science
>>>>>>>> fiction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He, like all of us, did have some goofy
>>>>>>> ideas. But eventually acknowledged the
>>>>>>> evidence for design ~ thus a Designer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isaac Newton was an alchemist and thought space was filled
>>>>>> with ether. Being a genius in one area doesn't mean you
>>>>>> cannot be a nut somewhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, just to clarify, Professor Albert Einstein's Special and
>>>>> General Theories of Relativity have been, since their inception,
>>>>> attacked repeatedly over the last century. So far, Albert's
>>>>> models have held up! I suspect that this time around will be
>>>>> yet another "rinse & repeat" episode.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> The more I study science, the more I believe in God.
>>>> The fanatical atheists are like slaves who are still
>>>> feeling the weight of their chains which they have
>>>> thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures
>>>> who in their grudge against traditional religion as
>>>> the opium of the masses' - cannot hear the music
>>>> of the spheres" ~ Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> In one of his last letters, Professor Einstein stated, "The word God is for me nothing
>>> but theexpression and product of human weakness."
>>>
>>> https://www.christies.com/en/stories/albert-einstein-god-letter-7c775f5e483d4834af7baa6da2890f32
>>>
>>> He also stated:
>>>
>>> "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal god is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do
>>> not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the
>>> fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our
>>> intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being."
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein
>>>
>>> Andrew, please stop misquoting people! It's dishonest!!
>>
>>Did not.
>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>>"A scientific discovery is also a religious discovery.
>> There is no conflict between science and religion.
>> Our knowledge of God is made larger with every
>> discovery we make about the world."
>> ~ Robert Boyle
>>
>> "Science without religion is lame, religion without
>> science is blind." ~ Albert Einstein
>>
>
> Oh, yes, a 17th-century quote! And, more cherry-picking from Professor
> Einstein.

Irrefutable truths we must
acknowledge. Yes. Glory
to God!

> Dawn
>

~ Andrew