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Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
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On Wed, 1 May 2024, Maximus wrote:

> D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>
>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>>> ...beliefs.
>>>>
>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are confident
>>>> that there is a God.
>>>>
>>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even sure
>>> if God exist or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not even
>>> sure if God exist or not.
>>
>> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is agnostic, but
>> many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)
>
> atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies that. to
> my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.

Yes, atheism for me means you do not believe in god. Not belief in lack of
a god, hence, the argument that atheists are believers is not a good one
in my book. If you phrase it as "I believe there is no god" then it's your
own fault for exciting all the theists. ;)

In terms of simple logic. Theism means for me, belief in x, where x is
is some kind of deity.

Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.

Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)

The theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
interpretation and definition, are arguing that !b = b which is a logical
contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.

Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
From: Skeeter
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In article <62dafaf9-a5a7-88f5-67d8-02391a8b0cb2@example.net>,
nospam@example.net says...
>
> On Wed, 1 May 2024, Maximus wrote:
>
> > D wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
> >>>>
> >>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
> >>>> ...beliefs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are confident
> >>>> that there is a God.
> >>>>
> >>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even sure
> >>> if God exist or not.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not even
> >>> sure if God exist or not.
> >>
> >> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is agnostic, but
> >> many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)
> >
> > atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies that. to
> > my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.
>
> Yes, atheism for me means you do not believe in god. Not belief in lack of
> a god, hence, the argument that atheists are believers is not a good one
> in my book. If you phrase it as "I believe there is no god" then it's your
> own fault for exciting all the theists. ;)
>
> In terms of simple logic. Theism means for me, belief in x, where x is
> is some kind of deity.
>
> Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.
>
> Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
> Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)
>
> The theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
> interpretation and definition, are arguing that !b = b which is a logical
> contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.

Yet the idea that there is no God is still what they believe.

Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
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D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 1 May 2024, Maximus wrote:
>
>> D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level
>>>>> of ...beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are
>>>>> confident that there is a God.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even
>>>> sure if God exist or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not
>>>> even sure if God exist or not.
>>>
>>> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is
>>> agnostic, but many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)
>>
>> atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies
>> that. to my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.
>
> Yes, atheism for me means you do not believe in god. Not belief in
> lack of a god, hence, the argument that atheists are believers is not
> a good one in my book. If you phrase it as "I believe there is no god"
> then it's your own fault for exciting all the theists. ;)
>
> In terms of simple logic. Theism means for me, belief in x, where x is
> is some kind of deity.
>
> Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.
>
> Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
> Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)
>
> The theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
> interpretation and definition, are arguing that !b = b which is a
> logical contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.

good explanation. for me tho it's no big deal how ppl think of atheism
or define it. it all comes down simply to 'atheists don't believe in God'

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
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On Wed, 1 May 2024 14:39:08 -0600, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
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>In article <62dafaf9-a5a7-88f5-67d8-02391a8b0cb2@example.net>,
>nospam@example.net says...
>>
>> On Wed, 1 May 2024, Maximus wrote:
>>
>> > D wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>> >>>> ...beliefs.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are confident
>> >>>> that there is a God.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even sure
>> >>> if God exist or not.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not even
>> >>> sure if God exist or not.
>> >>
>> >> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is agnostic, but
>> >> many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)
>> >
>> > atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies that. to
>> > my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.
>>
>> Yes, atheism for me means you do not believe in god. Not belief in lack of
>> a god, hence, the argument that atheists are believers is not a good one
>> in my book. If you phrase it as "I believe there is no god" then it's your
>> own fault for exciting all the theists. ;)
>>
>> In terms of simple logic. Theism means for me, belief in x, where x is
>> is some kind of deity.
>>
>> Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.
>>
>> Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
>> Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)
>>
>> The theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
>> interpretation and definition, are arguing that !b = b which is a logical
>> contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.
>
>Yet the idea that there is no God is still what they believe.

And not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.

Whatever it takes - Stop the Democrats. Or the Dims
as I prefer to call them

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Biden the Senile Bastard and his Bitch and
supported by the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Do not work with them but oppose everything they attempt.

Stop the Green Raw Deal! I dare call it treason.
Go WOKE. Go broke.
CRT - Criminals Recruiting Thugs
DEI - Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy
End all social engineering programs.

I don't know how Comical Karine can still hold a straight
face with what she has to say.

Did the last sane person leaving California remember to
turn off the lights? Did he do the same for the Rotten
Apple?

Abortion should be like any other medical procedure
and be the decision of the patient and the doctor.
It is the business of no one else.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion.
She want's it. All else is irrelevant

I support a Pro-Choice Constitutional Amendment.

Don't build a wall, build a kill zone.

Subject: Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
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On Thu, 2 May 2024, Maximus wrote:

> D wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 1 May 2024, Maximus wrote:
>>
>>> D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>>>>> ...beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are confident
>>>>>> that there is a God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even sure
>>>>> if God exist or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not even
>>>>> sure if God exist or not.
>>>>
>>>> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is agnostic,
>>>> but many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)
>>>
>>> atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies that.
>>> to my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.
>>
>> Yes, atheism for me means you do not believe in god. Not belief in lack of
>> a god, hence, the argument that atheists are believers is not a good one in
>> my book. If you phrase it as "I believe there is no god" then it's your own
>> fault for exciting all the theists. ;)
>>
>> In terms of simple logic. Theism means for me, belief in x, where x is is
>> some kind of deity.
>>
>> Atheism, means not belief in x, where x is some kind of deity.
>>
>> Theism: b(x). (where b is belief in, x deity)
>> Atheism:; !b(x). (where ! is not, b is belief in, and x deity)
>>
>> The theists that argue that atheism is a belief, in my book and
>> interpretation and definition, are arguing that !b = b which is a logical
>> contradiction, and hence an invalid argument.
>
> good explanation. for me tho it's no big deal how ppl think of atheism or
> define it. it all comes down simply to 'atheists don't believe in God'

Thank you. Yes, this was more for the benefit of the people who claim it
is a faith, which I disagree with, but I doubt the argument will sway
them. It almost never does. ;)

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On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>
>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>
>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are confident that there is a God.
>>
>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>
>
>
> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even sure if God exist or not.
>
>
> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not even sure if God exist or not.

That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is agnostic, but
many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)

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D wrote:
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>
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, The Starmaker wrote:
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>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
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>>>> Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.
>>>
>>> Religious beliefs and Atheism beliefs are both on the same level of
>>> ...beliefs.
>>>
>>> Atheist are confident that there is no God, as Religions are
>>> confident that there is a God.
>>>
>>> They are are both on the same level of ...beliefs.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Dawkins writes a book "The God Delusion", and he's not even
>> sure if God exist or not.
>>
>>
>> That has to be the REAL definion of an atheist, a person who is not
>> even sure if God exist or not.
>
> That always ends up in nitpicking. My choosen word for it is agnostic,
> but many atheists disagree with me. To each his own. ;)

atheism simply means 'without theism'. the 'a' in atheism signifies
that. to my mind it's the best, most succinct definition.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Subject	Author
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	D
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	Maximus
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	D
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	Skeeter
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	Attila
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	Maximus
Re: Atheism is a belief, it's not a science.	D