On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>
> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr. Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>

I am up to Part 5. :-).

The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make
his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.

Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.

I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

On May 25, 2024, In the Name of Jesus wrote
(in article <v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me>):

> On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
> > Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
> >
> > Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr. Jerry
> > Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
> > Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>
> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>
> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make
> his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>
> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
> he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.

Are then going to stop cussing them out and calling the, names?
>
>
> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.

So are you going to start to listen to him now? Follow His Word?
>
>
> In the Name of Jesus

On 5/25/2024 6:19 PM, Robert wrote:
> On May 25, 2024, In the Name of Jesus wrote
> (in article<v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>
>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr. Jerry
>>> Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
>>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>
>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>
>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make
>> his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>
>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
>> he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>
> Are then going to stop cussing them out and calling the, names?
>>
>>
>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>
> So are you going to start to listen to him now? Follow His Word?
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>
>
were supposed to cuss you out. We are His Real Judges, and will not
even let a lying judge tell you, a bribe is not a sin. Such as the
Supreme Court. Joe Biden to Jail, with his sambo Obama, to pay their
penance of behind bars for lying. Dont care if they are wizard
freemasons, that is the Chrisitan law of the Constitution, the same
paper work they lied about. Serves them right. Freedom of Religion my
ass, My Good God, never declared no such thing.

"In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
news:v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me...
>
>On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>
>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>
>
>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>
>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the religious
>"fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make his
>argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>
>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words, he
>is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the embracing of
>all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>
>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to work
>His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>

"embracing of all sinners". So the eternal hell doctrine of Christianity is
really a lie.

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

On 29/05/2024 12:42 pm, Andrew W wrote:
> "In the Name of Jesus"  wrote in message
> news:v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>
>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>
>>
>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>
>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>> make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>
>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
>> he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>
>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>
>
> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal hell doctrine of Christianity
> is really a lie.

You are certainly quick to speak, Andrew.

As I said, "I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait
on Him to work His work."

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

On 5/28/24 9:42 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>"In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
>news:v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me...
>>
>>On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>
>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
>>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>
>>
>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>
>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the religious
>>"fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make his
>>argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>
>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words, he
>>is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the embracing of
>>all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>
>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to work
>>His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>
>
>"embracing of all sinners". So the eternal hell doctrine of Christianity is
>really a lie.
>

This reminds me of the Northern Ireland joke, "Yes, but are you a Catholic
atheist or a Protestant atheist?"

Dawn

"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v364m3$vmtj$1@dont-email.me...
> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>
>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
>>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>
>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>
>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the religious
>>"fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make his
>>argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>
>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words, he
>>is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the embracing of
>>all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>
>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to work
>>His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>
> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.

There is a future "Lake of Fire" where
those who are lost will be 'destroyed'.

The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
and will "consume" the wicked.

"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
earth, and let the wicked be no more."
~ Psalm 104:35

"Fear not them which kill the body, but
are not able to kill the soul: but rather
fear Him which is able to destroy both
soul and body in hell."
~ Matthew 10:28

Jesus says that body and soul will be
'"destroyed'" in hell (above).

There will be a clean Universe through
all future ages. With none of the bad
things we have here in this realm.

Andrew wrote:
> "Andrew W" wrote in message news:v364m3$vmtj$1@dont-email.me...
>> "In the Name of Jesus"  wrote:
>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>
>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between
>>>> Dr. Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>
>>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>
>>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>>> make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other
>>> words, he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to
>>> the embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>
>>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>
>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>
> There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
> 'destroyed'.
>
> The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
> and will "consume" the wicked.
>
> "Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>  earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>                 ~ Psalm 104:35
>
> "Fear not them which kill the body, but
> are not able to kill the soul: but rather
> fear Him which is able to destroy both
> soul and body in hell."
>               ~ Matthew 10:28
>
> Jesus says that body and soul will be
> '"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>
> There will be a clean Universe through
> all future ages. With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.

idiot

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

"In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
news:v369h8$104vg$2@dont-email.me...
>
>On 29/05/2024 12:42 pm, Andrew W wrote:
>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
>> news:v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>
>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>
>>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make
>>> his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
>>> he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>>> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>
>>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>
>>
>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal hell doctrine of Christianity
>> is really a lie.
>
>You are certainly quick to speak, Andrew.
>
>As I said, "I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on
>Him to work His work."
>

And what if it's not a 'Lord' but a phony?
A Lord just lords over others. That takes a big ego. Humans have egos.

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

"Andrew" wrote in message news:SfC5O.128441$THi.108963@fx01.ams4...
>
>"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v364m3$vmtj$1@dont-email.me...
>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>
>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>
>>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>
>>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make
>>>his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>
>>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words, he
>>>is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the embracing
>>>of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>
>>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to work
>>>His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>
>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>
>There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
>'destroyed'.
>
>The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>and will "consume" the wicked.
>
>"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
> earth, and let the wicked be no more."
> ~ Psalm 104:35
>
>"Fear not them which kill the body, but
>are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>fear Him which is able to destroy both
>soul and body in hell."
> ~ Matthew 10:28
>
>Jesus says that body and soul will be
>'"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>
>There will be a clean Universe through
>all future ages. With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.
>

Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice to do
that. There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has
always allowed evil.

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"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v3745t$14d6o$1@dont-email.me...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>
>>>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>
>>>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>>religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make
>>>>his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>
>>>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words, he
>>>>is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the embracing
>>>>of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>
>>>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to work
>>>>His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>
>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>>
>>There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
>>'destroyed'.
>>
>>The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>>and will "consume" the wicked.
>>
>>"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>> earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>> ~ Psalm 104:35
>>
>>"Fear not them which kill the body, but
>>are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>>fear Him which is able to destroy both
>>soul and body in hell."
>> ~ Matthew 10:28
>>
>>Jesus says that body and soul will be
>>'"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>>
>>There will be a clean Universe through
>> all future ages. With none of the bad
>> things we have here in this realm.
>
> Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice to do
> that. There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has
> always allowed evil.

He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term
plan.

There will be a clean Universe through all future ages.
With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.

On 29/05/2024 9:35 pm, Andrew W wrote:
> "In the Name of Jesus"  wrote in message
> news:v369h8$104vg$2@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 29/05/2024 12:42 pm, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "In the Name of Jesus"  wrote in message
>>> news:v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>> On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between
>>>>> Dr. Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>
>>>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>>>> make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other
>>>> words, he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to
>>>> the embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>
>>>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>>> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal hell doctrine of
>>> Christianity is really a lie.
>>
>> You are certainly quick to speak, Andrew.
>>
>> As I said, "I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait
>> on Him to work His work."
>>
>
> And what if it's not a 'Lord' but a phony?

You know you are just talking.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
news:v385ju$1a8gb$1@dont-email.me...
>
>On 29/05/2024 9:35 pm, Andrew W wrote:
>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
>> news:v369h8$104vg$2@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> On 29/05/2024 12:42 pm, Andrew W wrote:
>>>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
>>>> news:v2u1b8$32fpg$9@dont-email.me...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26/05/2024 6:06 am, Tentmaker 777 (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>>>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>>>>> make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
>>>>> he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>>>>> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>>>> work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal hell doctrine of
>>>> Christianity is really a lie.
>>>
>>> You are certainly quick to speak, Andrew.
>>>
>>> As I said, "I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait
>>> on Him to work His work."
>>>
>>
>> And what if it's not a 'Lord' but a phony?
>
>You know you are just talking.
>

You're in for a shock. I and others know the truth. Research.

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Andrew wrote:
> "Andrew W" wrote in message news:v3745t$14d6o$1@dont-email.me...
>> "Andrew"  wrote:
>>> "Andrew W" wrote:
>>>> "In the Name of Jesus"  wrote:
>>>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between
>>>>>> Dr. Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder
>>>>>> of Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>>> religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point
>>>>> to make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other
>>>>> words, he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit
>>>>> to the embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the
>>>>> Lord.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him
>>>>> to work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>
>>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>>>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>>>
>>> There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
>>> 'destroyed'.
>>>
>>> The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>>> and will "consume" the wicked.
>>>
>>> "Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>>>  earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>>>                 ~ Psalm 104:35
>>>
>>> "Fear not them which kill the body, but
>>> are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>>> fear Him which is able to destroy both
>>> soul and body in hell."
>>>               ~ Matthew 10:28
>>>
>>> Jesus says that body and soul will be
>>> '"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>>>
>>> There will be a clean Universe through
>>> all future ages. With none of the bad things we have here in this
>>> realm.
>>
>> Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice
>> to do that. There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil
>> people. He has always allowed evil.
>
> He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
> The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term
> plan.
>
> There will be a clean Universe through all future ages. With none of
> the bad  things we have here in this realm.

you're nuts

--
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"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

"Andrew" wrote in message news:%QG5O.149179$m2s1.58486@fx04.ams4...
>
>"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v3745t$14d6o$1@dont-email.me...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>>>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>>>>>> Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>>>> Tentmaker Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>
>>>>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>>>religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>>>>>make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
>>>>>he is open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>>>>>embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>>
>>>>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>>>>work His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>
>>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>>>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>>>
>>>There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
>>>'destroyed'.
>>>
>>>The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>>>and will "consume" the wicked.
>>>
>>>"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>>> earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>>> ~ Psalm 104:35
>>>
>>>"Fear not them which kill the body, but
>>>are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>>>fear Him which is able to destroy both
>>>soul and body in hell."
>>> ~ Matthew 10:28
>>>
>>>Jesus says that body and soul will be
>>>'"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>>>
>>>There will be a clean Universe through
>>> all future ages. With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.
>>
>> Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice to
>> do that. There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He
>> has always allowed evil.
>
>He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
>

What about the free will/choice of the victims to live a tyranny and murder
free life?
It's obvious that free will and choice is only given to the evil ones which
shows that the god of this world that was cast down is the one that
religions have been worshiping.

>
>The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term
>plan.
>

Why is it necessary to sacrifice anyone? Only cults did that. They craved
the blood of humans and animals.

>
>There will be a clean Universe through all future ages. With none of the
>bad things we have here in this realm.
>

That was promised millennia ago. Charlatans make promises.

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the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v38s1t$1hbr9$1@dont-email.me...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>>>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>>>>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr. Jerry
>>>>>>> Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
>>>>>>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the religious
>>>>>>"fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make his argument.
>>>>>> That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words, he is
>>>>>> open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the
>>>>>>Spirit to the embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to work
>>>>>> His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>>
>>>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>>>>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>>>>
>>>> There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those
>>>> who are lost will be 'destroyed'.
>>>>
>>>>The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>>>>and will "consume" the wicked.
>>>>
>>>>"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>>>> earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>>>> ~ Psalm 104:35
>>>>
>>>>"Fear not them which kill the body, but
>>>>are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>>>>fear Him which is able to destroy both
>>>>soul and body in hell."
>>>> ~ Matthew 10:28
>>>>
>>>>Jesus says that body and soul will be
>>>>'"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>>>>
>>>> There will be a clean Universe through
>>>> all future ages. With none of the bad
>>>> things we have here in this realm.
>>>
>>> Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice to do that.
>>> There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has always
>>> allowed evil.
>>
>>He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
>
> What about the free will/choice of the victims to live a tyranny and murder free life?
>
> It's obvious that free will and choice is only given to the evil ones which shows that
> the god of this world that was cast down is the one that religions have been worshiping.

Showing that the one who was "cast down" is -still- the god of this world.

"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them!
Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For
the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath,
because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
~ Revelation 12:12

>>The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term plan.
>
> Why is it necessary to sacrifice anyone?

Because the wages of sin is death.

But God has offered to pay our debt Himself.

This was accomplished by Jesus.

> Only cults did that.

The sacrifices in the old testament typified the
sacrifice of Jesus.

> They craved the blood of humans and animals.

You are referring to a counterfeit of the true.

>>There will be a clean Universe through all future ages.
>> With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.
>
> That was promised millennia ago.

Jesus came. He was raised from the dead.
He ascended on high. He will also return.

> Charlatans make promises.

But you can rerly upon the promises of God.

To understand the big picture, read the Bible.

From paradise lost to paradise restored.

On May 30, 2024, Andrew wrote
(in article <RQ56O.8108$c2Ba.3034@fx02.ams4>):

> "Andrew W" wrote in message news:v38s1t$1hbr9$1@dont-email.me...
> > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > "Andrew W" wrote:
> > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > "Andrew W" wrote:
> > > > > > "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
> > > > > > > (unofficial) wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
> > > > > > > > Jerry
> > > > > > > > Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
> > > > > > > > Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am up to Part 5. :-).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
> > > > > > > religious
> > > > > > > "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make his
> > > > > > > argument.
> > > > > > > That is not the foundation of who God is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
> > > > > > > he is
> > > > > > > open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the
> > > > > > > Spirit to the embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of
> > > > > > > the Lord.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
> > > > > > hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those
> > > > > who are lost will be 'destroyed'.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
> > > > > and will "consume" the wicked.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Let the sinners be consumed out of the
> > > > > earth, and let the wicked be no more."
> > > > > > Psalm 104:35
> > > > >
> > > > > "Fear not them which kill the body, but
> > > > > are not able to kill the soul: but rather
> > > > > fear Him which is able to destroy both
> > > > > soul and body in hell."
> > > > > > Matthew 10:28
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesus says that body and soul will be
> > > > > '"destroyed'" in hell (above).
> > > > >
> > > > > There will be a clean Universe through
> > > > > all future ages. With none of the bad
> > > > > things we have here in this realm.
> > > >
> > > > Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice to
> > > > do that.
> > > > There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has
> > > > always
> > > > allowed evil.
> > >
> > > He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
> >
> > What about the free will/choice of the victims to live a tyranny and murder
> > free life?
> >
> > It's obvious that free will and choice is only given to the evil ones which
> > shows that
> > the god of this world that was cast down is the one that religions have
> > been worshiping.
>
> Showing that the one who was "cast down" is -still- the god of this world.
>
> "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them!
> Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For
> the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath,
> because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
> > Revelation 12:12
>
> > > The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term plan.
> >
> > Why is it necessary to sacrifice anyone?
>
> Because the wages of sin is death.
>
> But God has offered to pay our debt Himself.
>
> This was accomplished by Jesus.
>
> > Only cults did that.
>
> The sacrifices in the old testament typified the
> sacrifice of Jesus.
>
> > They craved the blood of humans and animals.
>
> You are referring to a counterfeit of the true.
>
> > > There will be a clean Universe through all future ages.
> > > With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.
> >
> > That was promised millennia ago.
>
> Jesus came. He was raised from the dead.
> He ascended on high. He will also return.
>
> > Charlatans make promises.
>
> But you can rerly upon the promises of God.
>
> To understand the big picture, read the Bible.
>
> From paradise lost to paradise restored.

Andrew, your last line should read “From Paradise Lost to a NEW Paradise”
as this earth and all its surroundings will be destroyed and a New Earth and
IT’s surroundings will be created to which the City of the New Jerusalem
will descend. Nice post.

"Robert" wrote in message news:0001HW.2C092503000F1EC930B12A38F@news.eternal-september.org...
> Andrew wrote
>> "Andrew W" wrote:
>> > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > "Andrew W" wrote:
>> > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > "Andrew W" wrote:
>> > > > > > "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>> > > > > > > (unofficial) wrote:
>> > > > > > > > Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between Dr.
>> > > > > > > > Jerry
>> > > > > > > > Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of Tentmaker
>> > > > > > > > Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I am up to Part 5. :-).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>> > > > > > > religious
>> > > > > > > "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to make his
>> > > > > > > argument.
>> > > > > > > That is not the foundation of who God is.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other words,
>> > > > > > > he is
>> > > > > > > open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the
>> > > > > > > Spirit to the embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of
>> > > > > > > the Lord.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>> > > > > > > work
>> > > > > > > His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>> > > > > > hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those
>> > > > > who are lost will be 'destroyed'.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>> > > > > and will "consume" the wicked.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>> > > > > earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>> > > > > > Psalm 104:35
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Fear not them which kill the body, but
>> > > > > are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>> > > > > fear Him which is able to destroy both
>> > > > > soul and body in hell."
>> > > > > > Matthew 10:28
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jesus says that body and soul will be
>> > > > > '"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There will be a clean Universe through
>> > > > > all future ages. With none of the bad
>> > > > > things we have here in this realm.
>> > > >
>> > > > Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice to
>> > > > do that.
>> > > > There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has
>> > > > always
>> > > > allowed evil.
>> > >
>> > > He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
>> >
>> > What about the free will/choice of the victims to live a tyranny and murder
>> > free life?
>> >
>> > It's obvious that free will and choice is only given to the evil ones which
>> > shows that the god of this world that was cast down is the one that religions
>> > have been worshiping.
>>
>> Showing that the one who was "cast down" is -still- the god of this world.
>>
>> "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them!
>> Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For
>> the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath,
>> because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
>> > Revelation 12:12
>>
>> > > The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term plan.
>> >
>> > Why is it necessary to sacrifice anyone?
>>
>> Because the wages of sin is death.
>>
>> But God has offered to pay our debt Himself.
>>
>> This was accomplished by Jesus.
>>
>> > Only cults did that.
>>
>> The sacrifices in the old testament typified the
>> sacrifice of Jesus.
>>
>> > They craved the blood of humans and animals.
>>
>> You are referring to a counterfeit of the true.
>>
>> > > There will be a clean Universe through all future ages.
>> > > With none of the bad things we have here in this realm.
>> >
>> > That was promised millennia ago.
>>
>> Jesus came. He was raised from the dead.
>> He ascended on high. He will also return.
>>
>> > Charlatans make promises.
>>
>> But you can rely upon the promises of God.
>>
>> To understand the big picture, read the Bible.
>>
>> From paradise lost to paradise restored.
>
> Andrew, your last line should read “From Paradise Lost to a NEW Paradise”
> as this earth and all its surroundings will be destroyed and a New Earth and
> IT’s surroundings will be created to which the City of the New Jerusalem
> will descend.

This is the blessed hope based
on the Word of God.

> Nice post.

Glory to Jesus for all that He did,
and for all that He is going to do.

"Andrew" wrote in message news:RQ56O.8108$c2Ba.3034@fx02.ams4...
>
>"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v38s1t$1hbr9$1@dont-email.me...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>>>>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>>>>>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between
>>>>>>>> Dr. Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>>>>>> Tentmaker
>>>>>>>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>>>>>religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>>>>>>>make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other
>>>>>>>words, he is
>>>>>>> open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>>>>>>> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>>>>>>work
>>>>>>> His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>>>>>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
>>>>> 'destroyed'.
>>>>>
>>>>>The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>>>>>and will "consume" the wicked.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>>>>> earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>>>>> ~ Psalm 104:35
>>>>>
>>>>>"Fear not them which kill the body, but
>>>>>are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>>>>>fear Him which is able to destroy both
>>>>>soul and body in hell."
>>>>> ~ Matthew 10:28
>>>>>
>>>>>Jesus says that body and soul will be
>>>>>'"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>>>>>
>>>>> There will be a clean Universe through
>>>>> all future ages. With none of the bad things we have here in this
>>>>> realm.
>>>>
>>>> Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice
>>>> to do that.
>>>> There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has
>>>> always allowed evil.
>>>
>>>He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
>>
>> What about the free will/choice of the victims to live a tyranny and
>> murder free life?
>>
>> It's obvious that free will and choice is only given to the evil ones
>> which shows that
>> the god of this world that was cast down is the one that religions have
>> been worshiping.
>
>Showing that the one who was "cast down" is -still- the god of this world.
>
>"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them! Woe to the
>inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil has come down unto
>you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
> ~ Revelation 12:12
>

Yet Christians still worship that false god.
Why? Because he says he wants worship, praise and devotion, as all
narcissists do. Think and research before you worship anyone. Buyer beware.

>
>>>The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term plan.
>>
>> Why is it necessary to sacrifice anyone?
>
>Because the wages of sin is death.
>

That's the stupidest answer ever. Why just believe that without thinking? It
makes virtually no sense.

>
>But God has offered to pay our debt Himself.
>

That's even more crazy and senseless. It's totally circular.

>
>This was accomplished by Jesus.
>

....who is said to be God. Same thing/person. Same nonsense.

>
>> Only cults did that.
>
>The sacrifices in the old testament typified the
>sacrifice of Jesus.
>

There's no need for any blood sacrifice. Only cults did that. Christianity
just modernised some popular cults. It's so obvious it's not funny.

>
>> They craved the blood of humans and animals.
>
>You are referring to a counterfeit of the true.
>

Huh? The counterfeit came first!
You can't fix a counterfeit by replacing it with a more modern counterfeit.

>
>>>There will be a clean Universe through all future ages. With none of the
>>>bad things we have here in this realm.
>>
>> That was promised millennia ago.
>
>Jesus came. He was raised from the dead.
>He ascended on high. He will also return.
>

He was supposed to return within the lifetimes of the apostles.
And then every turn of a century. Come on.

>
>> Charlatans make promises.
>
>But you can rerly upon the promises of God.
>

None of his promises have ever come true. This is the same way of operation
of all scammers.

>
>To understand the big picture, read the Bible.
>

Have you ever understood the big picture? Has anyone who's read the Bible?
If so then why do Christians have to spend their whole lives studying it?
They go around in circles. That's what evil wants.

>
>From paradise lost to paradise restored.
>

When was it restored? The answer is never.

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"Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:RQ56O.8108$c2Ba.3034@fx02.ams4:

>
>
> Because the wages of sin is death.

What sin?

On 1/06/2024 3:56 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in
> news:RQ56O.8108$c2Ba.3034@fx02.ams4:
>
>>
>>
>> Because the wages of sin is death.
>
>
> What sin?

How dare Andrew accuse you of wrong, Mitchell.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"Andrew W" wrote in message news:v3ce9n$27eni$1@dont-email.me...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>"Andrew W" wrote:
>>>>>>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote:
>>>>>>>> (unofficial) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hell: Fact or Fiction. Is Hell Real? (Part 1)
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apIMAGpp-T8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lee Strobel moderates a short debate whether Hell exists between
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Jerry Walls from Ashbury Seminary and Gary Amirault, founder of
>>>>>>>>> Tentmaker
>>>>>>>>> Ministries. The program was a TV series entitled...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am up to Part 5. :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The only thing that irks me so far is Gary's reliance on what the
>>>>>>>>religious "fathers" have said or using them as a reference point to
>>>>>>>>make his argument. That is not the foundation of who God is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nevertheless, his face is not contorted and straining. In other
>>>>>>>>words, he is
>>>>>>>> open-faced, and I find that I am drawn in the Spirit to the
>>>>>>>> embracing of all sinners, which is akin to the heart of the Lord.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I always look upon what the Lord brings before me and wait on Him to
>>>>>>>>work
>>>>>>>> His work, or, you could say, bring revelation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "embracing of all sinners". So the eternal
>>>>>>> hell doctrine of Christianity is really a lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a future "Lake of Fire" where those who are lost will be
>>>>>> 'destroyed'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The fires of Hell will definitely be real.
>>>>>>and will "consume" the wicked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Let the sinners be consumed out of the
>>>>>> earth, and let the wicked be no more."
>>>>>> ~ Psalm 104:35
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Fear not them which kill the body, but
>>>>>>are not able to kill the soul: but rather
>>>>>>fear Him which is able to destroy both
>>>>>>soul and body in hell."
>>>>>> ~ Matthew 10:28
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jesus says that body and soul will be
>>>>>>'"destroyed'" in hell (above).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There will be a clean Universe through
>>>>>> all future ages. With none of the bad things we have here in this
>>>>>> realm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lies have been written in the Bible. Those people had the free choice
>>>>> to do that.
>>>>> There was no one to stop them. 'God' never stops evil people. He has
>>>>> always allowed evil.
>>>>
>>>>He temporally permits it because He gives free choice.
>>>
>>> What about the free will/choice of the victims to live a tyranny and
>>> murder free life?
>>>
>>> It's obvious that free will and choice is only given to the evil ones
>>> which shows that
>>> the god of this world that was cast down is the one that religions have
>>> been worshiping.
>>
>>Showing that the one who was "cast down" is -still- the god of this world.
>>
>>"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them! Woe to the
>>inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil has come down unto
>>you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
>> ~ Revelation 12:12
>
> Yet Christians still worship that false god.

Not necessarily. But true, most of the world does.

> Why? Because he says he wants worship, praise and devotion, as all
> narcissists do.

So you acknowledge He is. Yet you have complaints.

The life and teachings of Jesus reveal to us WHO God really is.

He was everything good. The people loved Him!

But not so the "religious authorities".

> Think and research before you worship anyone.

Worship JESUS! He is the One who is 'worthy'.

>>>>The sacrifice of Jesus shows that God has a long term plan.
>>>
>>> Why is it necessary to sacrifice anyone?
>>
>>Because the wages of sin is death.
>
> That's the stupidest answer ever.

So I get the prize?

> Why just believe that without thinking?

Because God calls the shots, not me.

> It makes virtually no sense.

Because you have a carnal mind that is
unable to understand spiritual things.

>>But God has offered to pay our debt Himself.
>
> That's even more crazy and senseless.

Although it may be "crazy", it is a most~wonderful~truth!

It has to do with love, which is inexplicable to you..

>>This was accomplished by Jesus.
>
> ...who is said to be God. Same thing/person. Same nonsense.

Jesus arose from the dead. Evidence of this has been posted.

>>> Only cults did that.
>>
>>The sacrifices in the old testament typified the
>>sacrifice of Jesus.
>
> There's no need for any blood sacrifice.

The system was set up and ordained by God.

> Only cults did that. Christianity
> just modernised some popular cults.
> It's so obvious it's not funny.
>>
>>> They craved the blood of humans and animals.
>>
>>You are referring to a counterfeit of the true.
>
> Huh? The counterfeit came first!
> You can't fix a counterfeit by replacing it with a more modern counterfeit.
>
>>>>There will be a clean Universe through all future ages. With none of the
>>>>bad things we have here in this realm.
>>>
>>> That was promised millennia ago.
>>
>>Jesus came. He was raised from the dead.
>>He ascended on high. He will also return.
>
> He was supposed to return within the lifetimes of the apostles.
> And then every turn of a century. Come on.

No, you are mistaken here..

>>> Charlatans make promises.
>>
>>But you can rerly upon the promises of God.
>
> None of his promises have ever come true.

Yes thay have. Should I list some for you?

> This is the same way of operation of all scammers.

It appears that you are deceived, and also unhappy.

>>To understand the big picture, read the Bible.
>
> Have you ever understood the big picture? Has anyone who's read the Bible?
> If so then why do Christians have to spend their whole lives studying it?
> They go around in circles. That's what evil wants.

It won't hurt you to read the Bible. Read it through! And pray.

>>From paradise lost to paradise restored.
>
> When was it restored? The answer is never.

It most definitely will be.

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsB183831C2BE28629555@185.151.15.190...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
>> Because the wages of sin is death.
>
> What sin?

Look it up. But remember,
there is a plan of salvation.

"Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:tvD6O.49862$EcHa.49669@fx14.ams4:

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsB183831C2BE28629555@185.151.15.190...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>
>>> Because the wages of sin is death.
>>
>> What sin?
>
> Look it up.

Another day, another Andrew
"It's in the Bible somewhere, look
it up yourself" evasion.

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:XnsB1845429FC289629555@185.151.15.160...
>
>"Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote in
>news:tvD6O.49862$EcHa.49669@fx14.ams4:
>
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> news:XnsB183831C2BE28629555@185.151.15.190...
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Because the wages of sin is death.
>>>
>>> What sin?
>>
>> Look it up.
>
>
> Another day, another Andrew
>"It's in the Bible somewhere, look
>it up yourself" evasion.
>

Leftist hate doing research and just want everything handed to them by the
authorities and media which they must follow.

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