On 28/05/2024 9:58 pm, ChristRose wrote:
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> On Mon, 27 May 2024 21:51:44 -0700,
> Article:<0001HW.2C059A60001E53DC306B2638F@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Robert wrote:
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>
>> On May 27, 2024, ChristRose wrote
>> (in article<6sia5jt5ekkbqb42ngasda2s0lgtucsp0u@christrose.news>):
>>
>>> John's assertion in 1 John 3:9 that,
>>>
>>> "whoever has been born of God does not
>>> sin"
>>>
>>> has sparked considerable debate and
>>> various interpretations. Students of the
>>> Bible have proposed several views to
>>> explain this passage, and understanding
>>> these perspectives can help us grasp
>>> John's intended meaning...
>>>
>>> Read more...
>>> https://www.christrose.news/cannot-sin
>>
>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gnostic
>>
>> Care to explain you understanding of it?
>>
>> How to describe what is or is not Gnostic?
>>
>> 1Jn 3:9-10 (KJV)
>>
>> 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in
>> him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
>>
>> 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
>> whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not
>> his brother.
>>
>> Appears to be that if a man “that loves not his brother” is a a truth
>> that cannot be denied. Those those walk in sin, and are not of God. That they
>> follow the ways of the dead “old man” and have resurrected him via
>> unrenewed minds.
>>
>
>
> Within the scope of this article, 1 John
> shows several ways to deduce and
> identify what the Gnostics were
> teaching.
>
> 1) They evidently claimed to have
> achieved sinless perfection, not to have
> a sin nature, and not to ever commit any
> acts of personal sin. They therefore do
> not confess any sin to God. Thus, John
> writes 1 John 1:8-9 to refute this
> error.
>
> 2) They evidently try to condemn any of
> the "inferior people" who have not
> achieved their level of "sinless
> perfection", hence John wrote 1 John
> 2:1-2, about the believer who sins
> having an advocate with the Father, and
> a propitiating atonement for their sin.
>
> 3) At the same time as they claim
> sinless perfection and condemn the
> "sinners" for their sins, they do not,
> themselves, practice right living. So
> they are blatant hypocrites who pretend
> like they've attained a walk which is
> without any sin whatsoever, while at the
> same time, you see them sinning and not
> practicing what is right. This would
> include the example you alluded to,
> about not showing love for other
> believers. Thus, he wrote 1 John 2-4.
>
> 4) In regards to your definition of
> gnosticism pertaining to a "knowledge of
> spiritual matters", they evidently
> claimed to have some kind of superior
> knowledge about spiritual things. Thus 1
> John has a lot of statements to fortify
> believers about how we actually "know"
> the truth.
>
> For example, we "know" a child of God
> from the child of the devil, based on
> whether or not they claim to walk in
> sinless perfection (1 John 1:8-9).
>
> By John's condemnation of these Gnostics
> as having neither the truth nor the word
> of God in them (1 John 1:8-9), we know
> that the truth is defined by what God's
> word says, not what the Gnostics claim.
>
> We know based on whether or not they
> practice right living (2-4).
>
> We know based on whether or not they
> manifest love for other believers (2-4).
> We know based on whether they profess
> Christ came in the flesh (1 John 4:3).
>
> We know based on whether or not we have
> the Son of God (1 John 5:12).
>
> Ironically, it is the Gnostics who claim
> to be sinlessly perfect, who claim
> everyone else but them is a "sinner",
> and who claim to be operating by some
> superior form of knowledge, whom John
> says are devoid of the truth and the
> word of God (1 John 1:8-9).
>
> So someone aligned with the truth and
> word of God would 1) admit they still
> have a sin nature and commit acts of
> sin. 2) confess their sins to God
> (present tense, meaning continually
> confessing). 3) base their claims on the
> "truth" of the "word of God" (1 John
> 1:8-2:2).
>
> On the other hand, the child of God
> would not by an hypocrite. He would also
> habitually practice right living, avoid
> habitual, defiant sin, show love for
> other believers, etc.

And continue in the defilement as a sinner, etc. Pointing a dirty finger
at others (e.g., gnostics) the temple Pharisee sees that everyone that
is not like him is morally reprehensible.

All that sinner judgement above is the summation of a Pharisee.

I find it amazing how someone can comfortably theologically continue
sinning against the Lord (whoring with the world), treating Him
secondary to his own will and claim to love Him?

Call me deluded if you like.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."