On 26/05/2024 10:10 am, Andrew W wrote:
> "In the Name of Jesus"  wrote in message
> news:v2tr8g$32fph$3@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 26/05/2024 8:48 am, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Robert"  wrote in message
>>> news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>> (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>
>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>>>> news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>> > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net>  wrote in
>>>>> > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
>>>>> > > > writes:
>>>>> > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
>>>>> which, > > > when
>>>>> > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone > >
>>>>> > involved.
>>>>> > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live
>>>>> with > > > one
>>>>> > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they can
>>>>> and
>>>>> > > > the weak doing what they must.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
>>>>>
>>>>> God as God is a mass murderer.
>>>>
>>>> You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Right, they were blood sacrifices. Jesus was also a blood sacrifice,
>>> just like the old pagan religions that came before.
>>
>>> Why does a non physical creator of the universe need human blood from
>>> one speck of dust in this big universe?
>>
>> You do right in calling God the Creator of the universe.
>>
>> How is it you know more than Him?
>>
>>
>
> We're talking about two different Gods/gods. The real Creator, and the
> false always angry blood thirsty Christian/Bible version. There was a
> big switch and change over of gods from the OT to the NT which is
> already very sus.

There is only One God and Creator.

And you don't know more than Him.

That is the point.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

On 26/05/2024 10:13 am, Andrew W wrote:
> "Michael Christ"  wrote in message news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      The original post was right, it
>>>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        - kidnapper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>>>>        - Christianity
>>>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>>>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>      Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>>>>
>>>>        Or the Protestant Church.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I should have no compassion on these
>>>> witches; I should burn them all."
>>>> Martin Luther
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>>      there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
>>>>>      willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
>>>>>      anyone.
>>>>
>>>>       Religions have never been able
>>>> to live in peace together.
>>>
>>> so true!
>>
>> "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
>>
>> Yet more moron sweepings statements.
>>
>> Man has never been able to live in peace together.
>>
>> Leave God and those who are truly His out of it.
>>
>
> God is the one who designed human's minds. He did a lousy job.

So, you don't like your free will choice? Well, you certainly seem to be
indulging yourself in it!

There is only One God and Creator of heaven and earth.

He didn't need your help then or now.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
(in article <v2tpdj$32nqb$1@dont-email.me>):

> "Robert" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
> >
> > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
> > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
> > > > writes:
> > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
> > > >
> > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments which, when
> > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone involved.
> > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live with one
> > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they can and
> > > > the weak doing what they must.
> > >
> > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
> >
> > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
> >
> > He then was authorized to present a better way.
>
> Jesus even out did God the father? Wow. What a hero.

Has you ever read scripture, he did the will of His Heavenly Father.

On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
(in article <v2tq57$32ri3$1@dont-email.me>):

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsB17D54B94AF94629555@185.151.15.190...
> >
> > "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> > news:v2rlim$2nf7q$1@dont-email.me:
> >
> > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> > > news:XnsB17BD0F3A7396629555@185.151.15.190...
> > > >
> > > > "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
> > > >
> > > > > On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > and saving you from
> > > > > > > > > > > eternal damnation.
> > > > > > > > > > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> > > > > > > > > > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> > > > > > > > > > any other He may have in store for you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (signed)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a Universalist.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Religion has actually convinced
> > > > > > > > > people that there's an invisible
> > > > > > > > > man living in the sky who watches
> > > > > > > > > everything you do, every minute of
> > > > > > > > > every day. And the invisible man
> > > > > > > > > has a special list of ten things he
> > > > > > > > > does not want you to do. And if you
> > > > > > > > > do any of these ten things, he has
> > > > > > > > > a special place, full of fire and
> > > > > > > > > smoke and burning and torture and
> > > > > > > > > anguish, where he will send you to
> > > > > > > > > live and suffer and burn and choke
> > > > > > > > > and scream and cry forever and ever
> > > > > > > > > 'til the end of time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But He loves you!"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
> > > > > > > > Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â The original post was right, it
> > > > > > > is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â - kidnapper
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â - Christianity
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
> > > > > > there would be no need for salvation.
> > > > > Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Or the Protestant Church.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "I should have no compassion on these
> > > > witches; I should burn them all."
> > > > Martin Luther
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > No,
> > > > > there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
> > > > > willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
> > > > > anyone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Religions have never been able
> > > > to live in peace together.
> > >
> > > Neither have governments. They have both lied to us.
> >
> >
> > What do you propose be done about that?
>
> Spread awareness. Get together and rise up and protest, like the farmers in
> EU countries right now. You probably don't even know about that happening.
> Drink some more cool aid.

Have you any clue what is going on in the USA with the farmers and small
ranchers?

Naw, didn’t think so. He who controls the food controls the nations.

On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
(in article <v2tul2$33g1t$1@dont-email.me>):

> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
> news:v2tr8g$32fph$3@dont-email.me...
> >
> > On 26/05/2024 8:48 am, Andrew W wrote:
> > > "Robert" wrote in message
> > > news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > >
> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > >
> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
> > > > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
> > > > > which, > > > when
> > > > > > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone > >
> > > > > > involved.
> > > > > > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live
> > > > > with > > > one
> > > > > > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they can
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the weak doing what they must.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
> > > > >
> > > > > God as God is a mass murderer.
> > > >
> > > > You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
> > >
> > > Right, they were blood sacrifices. Jesus was also a blood sacrifice, just
> > > like the old pagan religions that came before.
> >
> > > Why does a non physical creator of the universe need human blood from one
> > > speck of dust in this big universe?
> >
> > You do right in calling God the Creator of the universe.
> >
> > How is it you know more than Him?
>
> We're talking about two different Gods/gods. The real Creator, and the false
> always angry blood thirsty Christian/Bible version. There was a big switch
> and change over of gods from the OT to the NT which is already very sus.

Guess you had better check with the facts checker. You are in error.

>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In the Name of Jesus

On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
(in article <v2tur4$33gnd$1@dont-email.me>):

> "Michael Christ" wrote in message news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me...
> >
> > On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
> > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
> > > >
> > > > > On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > and saving you from
> > > > > > > > > > > eternal damnation.
> > > > > > > > > > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> > > > > > > > > > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> > > > > > > > > > any other He may have in store for you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (signed)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a Universalist.
> > > > > > > > > "Religion has actually convinced
> > > > > > > > > people that there's an invisible
> > > > > > > > > man living in the sky who watches
> > > > > > > > > everything you do, every minute of
> > > > > > > > > every day. And the invisible man
> > > > > > > > > has a special list of ten things he
> > > > > > > > > does not want you to do. And if you
> > > > > > > > > do any of these ten things, he has
> > > > > > > > > a special place, full of fire and
> > > > > > > > > smoke and burning and torture and
> > > > > > > > > anguish, where he will send you to
> > > > > > > > > live and suffer and burn and choke
> > > > > > > > > and scream and cry forever and ever
> > > > > > > > > 'til the end of time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But He loves you!"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
> > > > > > > > Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â The original post was right, it
> > > > > > > is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â - kidnapper
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
> > > > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â - Christianity
> > > > > > the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
> > > > > > there would be no need for salvation.
> > > > > Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
> > > >
> > > > Or the Protestant Church.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "I should have no compassion on these
> > > > witches; I should burn them all."
> > > > Martin Luther
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > No,
> > > > > there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
> > > > > willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
> > > > > anyone.
> > > >
> > > > Religions have never been able
> > > > to live in peace together.
> > >
> > > so true!
> >
> > "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
> >
> > Yet more moron sweepings statements.
> >
> > Man has never been able to live in peace together.
> >
> > Leave God and those who are truly His out of it.
>
> God is the one who designed human's minds. He did a lousy job.

Who filled you mind with that nonsense? That is who did a lousy job with
their brain. :)

"In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
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>
>On 26/05/2024 10:10 am, Andrew W wrote:
>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
>> news:v2tr8g$32fph$3@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>> On 26/05/2024 8:48 am, Andrew W wrote:
>>>> "Robert" wrote in message
>>>> news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>> (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>> > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
>>>>>> > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
>>>>>> > > > writes:
>>>>>> > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
>>>>>> which, > > > when
>>>>>> > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone > >
>>>>>> > involved.
>>>>>> > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live
>>>>>> with > > > one
>>>>>> > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they can
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > > > the weak doing what they must.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God as God is a mass murderer.
>>>>>
>>>>> You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Right, they were blood sacrifices. Jesus was also a blood sacrifice,
>>>> just like the old pagan religions that came before.
>>>
>>>> Why does a non physical creator of the universe need human blood from
>>>> one speck of dust in this big universe?
>>>
>>> You do right in calling God the Creator of the universe.
>>>
>>> How is it you know more than Him?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We're talking about two different Gods/gods. The real Creator, and the
>> false always angry blood thirsty Christian/Bible version. There was a big
>> switch and change over of gods from the OT to the NT which is already
>> very sus.
>
>There is only One God and Creator.
>

And you don't know it.

>
>And you don't know more than Him.
>
>That is the point.
>

I never said that I did.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Lane Larson <lnlarson@stoat.inhoin.edu> wrote in news:lbejprFj5mU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>> news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>> (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>
>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no peace.
>>>>>> Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart with enmity.
>>>>>
>>>>> And God does nothing about that
>>>>> because he hates humanity, could care
>>>>> less about humanity, is powerless to
>>>>> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is it, do you think?
>>>>
>>>> He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace, and eternal
>>>> life with him.
>>>
>>>
>>> The question was about Satan.
>>>
>>> Why does God permit him to
>>> "kill and destroy"?
>>
>> The Ten Commandments are a legal document, not laws of the universe.
>
>
> The Commandments are royal edict,
> not the product of legislation.

What does this have to do with Satan?

"Robert" wrote in message
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>
>On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
>(in article <v2tul2$33g1t$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
>> news:v2tr8g$32fph$3@dont-email.me...
>> >
>> > On 26/05/2024 8:48 am, Andrew W wrote:
>> > > "Robert" wrote in message
>> > > news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > > >
>> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > > > (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > > > news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > > > > > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
>> > > > > > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>,
>> > > > > > > > creon@creon.earth
>> > > > > > > > writes:
>> > > > > > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
>> > > > > which, > > > when
>> > > > > > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > involved.
>> > > > > > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to
>> > > > > > > > live
>> > > > > with > > > one
>> > > > > > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they
>> > > > > > > > can
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > the weak doing what they must.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > God as God is a mass murderer.
>> > > >
>> > > > You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
>> > >
>> > > Right, they were blood sacrifices. Jesus was also a blood sacrifice,
>> > > just
>> > > like the old pagan religions that came before.
>> >
>> > > Why does a non physical creator of the universe need human blood from
>> > > one
>> > > speck of dust in this big universe?
>> >
>> > You do right in calling God the Creator of the universe.
>> >
>> > How is it you know more than Him?
>>
>> We're talking about two different Gods/gods. The real Creator, and the
>> false
>> always angry blood thirsty Christian/Bible version. There was a big
>> switch
>> and change over of gods from the OT to the NT which is already very sus.
>
>Guess you had better check with the facts checker. You are in error.
>

No. I think you never did any research on this subject. Most people don't
bother. They just follow 'authorities' who are very often corrupt and have
agendas. You check into that.

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"Robert" wrote in message
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>
>On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
>(in article <v2tpdj$32nqb$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> "Robert" wrote in message
>> news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >
>> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
>> >
>> > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
>> > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > >
>> > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
>> > > > writes:
>> > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments which,
>> > > > when
>> > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone
>> > > > involved.
>> > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live with
>> > > > one
>> > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they can and
>> > > > the weak doing what they must.
>> > >
>> > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
>> >
>> > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
>> >
>> > He then was authorized to present a better way.
>>
>> Jesus even out did God the father? Wow. What a hero.
>
>Has you ever read scripture, he did the will of His Heavenly Father.
>

Like most people you just follow weird old stories, most of which make no
sense. Think.

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Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
>> >
>> > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
>> > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > >
>> > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
>> > > > writes:
>> > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
>> > > > which, when disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to
>> > > > everyone involved. An unloving God would have left us to figure
>> > > > out how to live with one another by trial and error, with the
>> > > > strong doing what they can and the weak doing what they must.
>> > >
>> > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
>> >
>> > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
>>
>> God as God is a mass murderer.
>
> You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
>>
>>
>> Why did he kill the first-born
>> children in Egypt? They had done
>> nothing to offend him.
>
> There is a list of things they had done to offend Him, most of which
> you know from your past studies.

Name them. Name just ONE thing the
first born CHILDREN did to offend God.
And don't for He killed all the first
born animals as well. What had THEY
done to offend your god?

>>
>>
>> Why did God kill Er? He had
>> done nothing wrong.
>
> “And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and
> the LORD slew him.” (Gen 38:7, KJV)

Bingo. What had Er DONE?

>
> The same with his brother.
>
>>
>>
>> Why did God kill everyone in
>> Ye Floode? They broke no "godly"
>> rules.
>
> They were all followers of Satan. Given over to great Evil.

The Bible doesn't say that.

Don't you read your Bible?

"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
news:v2tq57$32ri3$1@dont-email.me:

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsB17D54B94AF94629555@185.151.15.190...
>>
>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>news:v2rlim$2nf7q$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>> news:XnsB17BD0F3A7396629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>
>>>>"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> � � � � The original post was right, it
>>>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> � � � � "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> � � � � � � - kidnapper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> � � � � "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>>>> � � � � � � - Christianity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without
>>>>>> it there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or the Protestant Church.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"I should have no compassion on these
>>>>witches; I should burn them all."
>>>>Martin Luther
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>> there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
>>>>> willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
>>>>> anyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Religions have never been able
>>>>to live in peace together.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Neither have governments. They have both lied to us.
>>
>>
>> What do you propose be done about that?
>>
>
> Spread awareness. Get together and rise up and protest, like the
> farmers in EU countries right now.

You mean the farmers demanding higher
subsidies from the "corrupt" government?

I thought you opposed that sort of thing.

Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2C0265C30007CBBC30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article <XnsB17D856FD386629555@185.151.15.160>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2C024C150001C70430F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > (in article <XnsB17D53917EE6F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>> >
>> > > In the Name of Jesus<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>> > > news:v2rn5e $2nfks$1@dont-email.me:
>> > >
>> > > > On 25/05/2024 11:28 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>> > > > > news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
>> > > > > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > > > > > > > "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>> > > > > > > > news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com>
>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote in news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChristRose wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and saving you from
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eternal damnation.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any other He may have in store for you.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (signed)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a Universalist.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Religion has actually convinced
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > people that there's an invisible
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > man living in the sky who watches
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > everything you do, every minute of
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > every day. And the invisible man
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > has a special list of ten things he
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > does not want you to do. And if you
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > do any of these ten things, he has
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > a special place, full of fire and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > smoke and burning and torture and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > anguish, where he will send you to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > live and suffer and burn and choke
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > and scream and cry forever and ever
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'til the end of time.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > But He loves you!"
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂ The original post was right, it
>> > > > > > > > > > > is spiritual terrorism.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂ "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - kidnapper
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂ "Believe as I tell you or suffer in
>> > > > > > > > > > > Hell" ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - Christianity
>> > > > > > > > > > the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of
>> > > > > > > > > > Xtianity. without
>> > > it
>> > > > > > > > > > there would be no need for salvation.
>> > > > > > > > > Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church
>> > > speaking.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Or the Protestant Church.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > "I should have no compassion on these
>> > > > > > > > witches; I should burn them all."
>> > > > > > > > Martin Luther
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > No,
>> > > > > > > > > there is more to following the rules than this.
>> > > > > > > > > People must be willing to live in peace together or
>> > > > > > > > > there can be no peace for anyone.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Religions have never been able
>> > > > > > > > to live in peace together.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > so true!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Yet more moron sweepings statements.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Man has never been able to live in peace together.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Wasn't Ye Floode supposed to fix that?
>> > > >
>> > > > The Lord Jesus Christ fixes the person.
>> > >
>> > > Jim Jones, David Koresh, Jim Bakker,
>> > > every Pedophile Priest.
>> > >
>> > > We have seen what people "fixed by
>> > > Jesus" are like, indeed.
>> >
>> > Mat 7:15-17 (KJV)
>> >
>> > 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
>> > but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
>> >
>> > 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
>> > thorns, or figs of thistles?
>> >
>> > 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt
>> > tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
>> >
>> > You can see here that there were such men in the time of Jesus, as
>> > he was the one speaking theses words, true of that time, true of
>> > this time and culminating with the time of the antichrist coming
>> > very soon, in the flesh. ATM the spirit of the antichrist is
>> > leading these people and has been since the days of the Apostles.
>> >
>> > Look at the fruits these people gather. Like minded followers who
>> > speak as foul and vulgar as they do, or practice livings they do,
>> > all the while their leaders are taking advantage of them, people
>> > who are to follow their leader, what he says is truth, in spite of
>> > the fact that a lot of what they say is contrary to the truth,
>> > which can be verified by the story pole of the Bible. The Word of
>> > God.
>>
>> Mary Dyer was a follower of mid-wife and religious
>> activist Anne Marbury Hutchinson. Her views about
>> God and religion were considered heresy by the
>> Puritan religion In 1658, a law was passed banishing
>> Quakers under "pain of death." Mary Dyer was executed,
>> hanged for being a Quaker on June 1, 1660.
>>
>> http://www.womeninhistoryprograms.com/dyer.html
>
> That is the legacy of the RCC doctrines that carried forward over the
> the fence of the Reformation.

On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
(in article <v2u2pq$3421q$1@dont-email.me>):

> "Robert" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.2C02C345001DB61A30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
> > (in article <v2tul2$33g1t$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > "In the Name of Jesus" wrote in message
> > > news:v2tr8g$32fph$3@dont-email.me...
> > > >
> > > > On 26/05/2024 8:48 am, Andrew W wrote:
> > > > > "Robert" wrote in message
> > > > > news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>,
> > > > > > > > > > creon@creon.earth
> > > > > > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
> > > > > > > which, > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone
> > > > > > > > involved.
> > > > > > > > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to
> > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > with > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they
> > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > the weak doing what they must.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > God as God is a mass murderer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, they were blood sacrifices. Jesus was also a blood sacrifice,
> > > > > just
> > > > > like the old pagan religions that came before.
> > > >
> > > > > Why does a non physical creator of the universe need human blood from
> > > > > one
> > > > > speck of dust in this big universe?
> > > >
> > > > You do right in calling God the Creator of the universe.
> > > >
> > > > How is it you know more than Him?
> > >
> > > We're talking about two different Gods/gods. The real Creator, and the
> > > false
> > > always angry blood thirsty Christian/Bible version. There was a big
> > > switch
> > > and change over of gods from the OT to the NT which is already very sus.
> >
> > Guess you had better check with the facts checker. You are in error.
>
> No. I think you never did any research on this subject. Most people don't
> bother. They just follow 'authorities' who are very often corrupt and have
> agendas. You check into that.

I have, and the issue was resolved. Jesus is Jehovah.

On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
(in article <v2u2sg$342cs$1@dont-email.me>):

> "Robert" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.2C02BE31001C856B30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > On May 25, 2024, Andrew W wrote
> > (in article <v2tpdj$32nqb$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > "Robert" wrote in message
> > > news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > >
> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > >
> > > > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
> > > > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
> > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments which,
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone
> > > > > > involved.
> > > > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live with
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they can and
> > > > > > the weak doing what they must.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
> > > >
> > > > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
> > > >
> > > > He then was authorized to present a better way.
> > >
> > > Jesus even out did God the father? Wow. What a hero.
> >
> > Has you ever read scripture, he did the will of His Heavenly Father.
>
> Like most people you just follow weird old stories, most of which make no
> sense. Think.

Then if you don’y believe the Bible on what do you base your hearsay?

Andrew W wrote:
> "Robert" wrote in message
> news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>
>>> Robert <robert@no.way>  wrote in
>>> news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>> > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>> >
>>> > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net>  wrote in
>>> > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
>>> > >
>>> > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
>>> > > > writes:
>>> > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
>>> which, > > > when
>>> > > > disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone > >
>>> > involved.
>>> > > > An unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live
>>> with > > > one
>>> > > > another by trial and error, with the strong doing what they
>>> can and
>>> > > > the weak doing what they must.
>>> > >
>>> > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
>>> >
>>> > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
>>>
>>> God as God is a mass murderer.
>>
>> You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
>>>
>
> Right, they were blood sacrifices. Jesus was also a blood sacrifice,
> just like the old pagan religions that came before.
> Why does a non physical creator of the universe need human blood from
> one speck of dust in this big universe?
>
>
>>>
>>> Why did he kill the first-born
>>> children in Egypt? They had done
>>> nothing to offend him.
>>
>> There is a list of things they had done to offend Him, most of which
>> you know
>> from your past studies.
>>>
>
> It's impossible for a little human on a speck of dust to offend the
> creator of a universe. No more than an ant could offend you.
> Christianity has been worshipping a cranky demanding multiple
> personality fraud.
>
>
>>>
>>> Why did God kill Er? He had
>>> done nothing wrong.
>>
>> “And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the
>> LORD slew him.” (Gen 38:7, KJV)
>>
>
> The usual excuses.
>
>
>>
>> The same with his brother.
>>
>
> In for a penny, in for a pound.
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why did God kill everyone in
>>> Ye Floode? They broke no "godly"
>>> rules.
>>
>> They were all followers of Satan. Given over to great Evil.
>>
>
> Absolute rubbish.
>
>

you nailed it!

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C0265C30007CBBC30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> (in article <XnsB17D856FD386629555@185.151.15.160>):
>>
>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>> news:0001HW.2C024C150001C70430F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>> (in article <XnsB17D53917EE6F629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>
>>>>> In the Name of Jesus<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v2rn5e $2nfks$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/05/2024 11:28 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Christ<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂ The original post was right, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂ "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - kidnapper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ÂÂÂÂ "Believe as I tell you or suffer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hell" ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - Christianity
>>>>>>>>>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Xtianity. without
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church
>>>>> speaking.
>>>>>>>>>> Or the Protestant Church.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "I should have no compassion on these
>>>>>>>>>> witches; I should burn them all."
>>>>>>>>>> Martin Luther
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>>>>>> there is more to following the rules than this.
>>>>>>>>>>> People must be willing to live in peace together or
>>>>>>>>>>> there can be no peace for anyone.
>>>>>>>>>> Religions have never been able
>>>>>>>>>> to live in peace together.
>>>>>>>>> so true!
>>>>>>>> "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet more moron sweepings statements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Man has never been able to live in peace together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wasn't Ye Floode supposed to fix that?
>>>>>> The Lord Jesus Christ fixes the person.
>>>>> Jim Jones, David Koresh, Jim Bakker,
>>>>> every Pedophile Priest.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have seen what people "fixed by
>>>>> Jesus" are like, indeed.
>>>> Mat 7:15-17 (KJV)
>>>>
>>>> 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
>>>> but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
>>>>
>>>> 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
>>>> thorns, or figs of thistles?
>>>>
>>>> 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt
>>>> tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
>>>>
>>>> You can see here that there were such men in the time of Jesus, as
>>>> he was the one speaking theses words, true of that time, true of
>>>> this time and culminating with the time of the antichrist coming
>>>> very soon, in the flesh. ATM the spirit of the antichrist is
>>>> leading these people and has been since the days of the Apostles.
>>>>
>>>> Look at the fruits these people gather. Like minded followers who
>>>> speak as foul and vulgar as they do, or practice livings they do,
>>>> all the while their leaders are taking advantage of them, people
>>>> who are to follow their leader, what he says is truth, in spite of
>>>> the fact that a lot of what they say is contrary to the truth,
>>>> which can be verified by the story pole of the Bible. The Word of
>>>> God.
>>> Mary Dyer was a follower of mid-wife and religious
>>> activist Anne Marbury Hutchinson. Her views about
>>> God and religion were considered heresy by the
>>> Puritan religion In 1658, a law was passed banishing
>>> Quakers under "pain of death." Mary Dyer was executed,
>>> hanged for being a Quaker on June 1, 1660.
>>>
>>> http://www.womeninhistoryprograms.com/dyer.html
>> That is the legacy of the RCC doctrines that carried forward over the
>> the fence of the Reformation.
>
> Christians killing other Christians
> for following the "wrong" Christianity.
>
>
>
>> That mindset of that religion so fully infected the Truth of Jesus
>> Christ that the reformation which began via Luther and others took
>> 100’s of years to eradicate from the followers of Christ as their
>> minds were not yet renewed to the point where they should have been
>> all along.
>>
> The intolerant Catholics got
> replaced by intolerant Protestants,
> and both killing in the name of Jesus.
>
>
>> Anytime that mans theology overrides the spiritual understanding of
>> God, there is going to be great difficulties of which false teachers
>> will take advantage of. Mans theology separates and divides, God’s
>> spiritual understandings unifies. You can see part of the truth of
>> that in these NG’s wherein “religious” understandings are often
>> backed by hatred for others, contemptuous behaviors, discord, and no
>> unity under the banner of Jesus the Messiah.
>>
>> Satan desires to sow the seeds of discord thus bringing shame to the
>> name of Christ. Which the ungoly, sons of satan, just gobble up
>> laughingly, and thus feel vindicated and justified in their behavior
>> all the while heading for the descent into the pit.
>>
>>

Robert wrote:
> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>> (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>
>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>> news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>> (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
>>>>>>>> rg:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no
>>>>>>>>> peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart
>>>>>>>>> with enmity.
>>>>>>>> And God does nothing about that
>>>>>>>> because he hates humanity, could care
>>>>>>>> less about humanity, is powerless to
>>>>>>>> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is it, do you think?
>>>>>>> He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace, and
>>>>>>> eternal life with him.
>>>>>> The question was about Satan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why does God permit him to
>>>>>> "kill and destroy”?
>>>>> Man did,
>>>> __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
>>>>
>>>> __God is powerless to stop Satan
>>>>
>>>> __God doesn't care either way
>>>>
>>>> Which is it?
>>> None of them.
>> So God is NOT incontrol of
>> everything that happens.
> There are other options that you are not aware of.
>>
>> So much for the Divine Plan.....
> The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
> We were given a heads up, 1,000’s of years ago. Yet you fully ignore it.
>
>

how unfortunate that God relies on mere mortals such as you to tell us
his wishes. he can (supposedly) create a Universe but cannot (for
example) patch into our communication systems and send messages directly.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C0261710006C88B30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>
>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>> news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>> (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>
>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
>>>>>>> rg:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-septemb
>>>>>>>>> er.o rg:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be
>>>>>>>>>> no peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the
>>>>>>>>>> heart with enmity.
>>>>>>>>> And God does nothing about that
>>>>>>>>> because he hates humanity, could care
>>>>>>>>> less about humanity, is powerless to
>>>>>>>>> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which is it, do you think?
>>>>>>>> He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace,
>>>>>>>> and eternal life with him.
>>>>>>> The question was about Satan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does God permit him to
>>>>>>> "kill and destroy”?
>>>>>> Man did,
>>>>> __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
>>>>>
>>>>> __God is powerless to stop Satan
>>>>>
>>>>> __God doesn't care either way
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is it?
>>>> None of them.
>>> So God is NOT incontrol of
>>> everything that happens.
>> There are other options that you are not aware of.
>
> Such as........?
>
>
>>>
>>> So much for the Divine Plan.....
>> The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
>
> Walk thru a pediatric oncology ward
> and tell us how children dying of cancer
> are part of a "Divine Plan".
>
>

yes. and that's why ppl like him telling us it's all God's will make me
angry.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article <XnsB17DD16CF5DC4629555@185.151.15.160>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C02686F00086C1630F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article <XnsB17D868A876F629555@185.151.15.190>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2C024E2C0002443930F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article <XnsB17D5438AEAB8629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > >
> > > > > Orlando Enrique Fiol<ofiol@verizon.net> wrote in
> > > > > news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article<lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth
> > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > > Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments
> > > > > > which, when disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to
> > > > > > everyone involved. An unloving God would have left us to figure
> > > > > > out how to live with one another by trial and error, with the
> > > > > > strong doing what they can and the weak doing what they must.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does God Himself obey the Ten Commandments?
> > > >
> > > > God as the man Jesus Christ lived and followed ALL the Law.
> > >
> > > God as God is a mass murderer.
> >
> > You use the term ‘murderer’ falsely and you know it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why did he kill the first-born
> > > children in Egypt? They had done
> > > nothing to offend him.
> >
> > There is a list of things they had done to offend Him, most of which
> > you know from your past studies.
>
> Name them. Name just ONE thing the
> first born CHILDREN did to offend God.
> And don't for He killed all the first
> born animals as well. What had THEY
> done to offend your god?

They hated their God, they hated the dependents of Abraham and Isaac and
enslaved them. IOW they mistreated the Chosen People.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Why did God kill Er? He had
> > > done nothing wrong.
> >
> > “And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and
> > the LORD slew him.” (Gen 38:7, KJV)
>
> Bingo. What had Er DONE?

Ask God, I just told you the answer. Bingo.

>
>
> >
> > The same with his brother.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why did God kill everyone in
> > > Ye Floode? They broke no "godly"
> > > rules.
> >
> > They were all followers of Satan. Given over to great Evil.
>
> The Bible doesn't say that.
>
> Don't you read your Bible?

Gen 6:5 (AMPC) The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the
earth, and that every imagination and intention of all human thinking was
only evil continually.

You should have remembered that.

On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article <XnsB17DD39B0FF3D629555@185.151.15.190>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C0265C30007CBBC30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article <XnsB17D856FD386629555@185.151.15.160>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2C024C150001C70430F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article <XnsB17D53917EE6F629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > >
> > > > > In the Name of Jesus<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> > > > > news:v2rn5e $2nfks$1@dont-email.me:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 25/05/2024 11:28 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > > news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote in news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChristRose wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and saving you from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eternal damnation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any other He may have in store for you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (signed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a Universalist.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Religion has actually convinced
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people that there's an invisible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > man living in the sky who watches
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything you do, every minute of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every day. And the invisible man
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has a special list of ten things he
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not want you to do. And if you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do any of these ten things, he has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a special place, full of fire and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > smoke and burning and torture and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anguish, where he will send you to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live and suffer and burn and choke
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and scream and cry forever and ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'til the end of time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But He loves you!"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂ The original post was right, it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂ "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - kidnapper
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÂÂÂÂ "Believe as I tell you or suffer in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hell" ÂÂÂÂÂÂ - Christianity
> > > > > > > > > > > > the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Xtianity. without
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > there would be no need for salvation.
> > > > > > > > > > > Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church
> > > > > speaking.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Or the Protestant Church.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "I should have no compassion on these
> > > > > > > > > > witches; I should burn them all."
> > > > > > > > > > Martin Luther
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No,
> > > > > > > > > > > there is more to following the rules than this.
> > > > > > > > > > > People must be willing to live in peace together or
> > > > > > > > > > > there can be no peace for anyone.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Religions have never been able
> > > > > > > > > > to live in peace together.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > so true!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yet more moron sweepings statements.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Man has never been able to live in peace together.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wasn't Ye Floode supposed to fix that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Lord Jesus Christ fixes the person.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Jones, David Koresh, Jim Bakker,
> > > > > every Pedophile Priest.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have seen what people "fixed by
> > > > > Jesus" are like, indeed.
> > > >
> > > > Mat 7:15-17 (KJV)
> > > >
> > > > 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
> > > > but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
> > > >
> > > > 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of
> > > > thorns, or figs of thistles?
> > > >
> > > > 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt
> > > > tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
> > > >
> > > > You can see here that there were such men in the time of Jesus, as
> > > > he was the one speaking theses words, true of that time, true of
> > > > this time and culminating with the time of the antichrist coming
> > > > very soon, in the flesh. ATM the spirit of the antichrist is
> > > > leading these people and has been since the days of the Apostles.
> > > >
> > > > Look at the fruits these people gather. Like minded followers who
> > > > speak as foul and vulgar as they do, or practice livings they do,
> > > > all the while their leaders are taking advantage of them, people
> > > > who are to follow their leader, what he says is truth, in spite of
> > > > the fact that a lot of what they say is contrary to the truth,
> > > > which can be verified by the story pole of the Bible. The Word of
> > > > God.
> > >
> > > Mary Dyer was a follower of mid-wife and religious
> > > activist Anne Marbury Hutchinson. Her views about
> > > God and religion were considered heresy by the
> > > Puritan religion In 1658, a law was passed banishing
> > > Quakers under "pain of death." Mary Dyer was executed,
> > > hanged for being a Quaker on June 1, 1660.
> > >
> > > http://www.womeninhistoryprograms.com/dyer.html
> >
> > That is the legacy of the RCC doctrines that carried forward over the
> > the fence of the Reformation.
>
> Christians killing other Christians
> for following the "wrong" Christianity.

On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article <XnsB17DD42C4C3D4629555@185.151.15.190>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C0261710006C88B30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > >
> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
> > > > > > > rg:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-septemb
> > > > > > > > > er.o rg:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be
> > > > > > > > > > no peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the
> > > > > > > > > > heart with enmity.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And God does nothing about that
> > > > > > > > > because he hates humanity, could care
> > > > > > > > > less about humanity, is powerless to
> > > > > > > > > prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which is it, do you think?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace,
> > > > > > > > and eternal life with him.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The question was about Satan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why does God permit him to
> > > > > > > "kill and destroy”?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Man did,
> > > > >
> > > > > __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
> > > > >
> > > > > __God is powerless to stop Satan
> > > > >
> > > > > __God doesn't care either way
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is it?
> > > >
> > > > None of them.
> > >
> > > So God is NOT incontrol of
> > > everything that happens.
> >
> > There are other options that you are not aware of.
>
> Such as........?

Your choice as to following Jesus, or not.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > So much for the Divine Plan.....
> >
> > The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
>
> Walk thru a pediatric oncology ward
> and tell us how children dying of cancer
> are part of a "Divine Plan".

What makes you think they were? Why do you accuse God in heaven for these
things instead of the god of this world, Satan? The destroyer/

>
>
> > We were given a heads up, 1,000’s of years ago. Yet you fully ignore
> > it.

On May 25, 2024, Maximus wrote
(in article <lbfl7fF5di8U1@mid.individual.net>):

> Robert wrote:
> > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > >
> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
> > > > > > > > > rg:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no
> > > > > > > > > > peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart
> > > > > > > > > > with enmity.
> > > > > > > > > And God does nothing about that
> > > > > > > > > because he hates humanity, could care
> > > > > > > > > less about humanity, is powerless to
> > > > > > > > > prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which is it, do you think?
> > > > > > > > He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace, and
> > > > > > > > eternal life with him.
> > > > > > > The question was about Satan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why does God permit him to
> > > > > > > "kill and destroy”?
> > > > > > Man did,
> > > > > __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
> > > > >
> > > > > __God is powerless to stop Satan
> > > > >
> > > > > __God doesn't care either way
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is it?
> > > > None of them.
> > > So God is NOT incontrol of
> > > everything that happens.
> > There are other options that you are not aware of.
> > >
> > > So much for the Divine Plan.....
> > The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
> > We were given a heads up, 1,000’s of years ago. Yet you fully ignore it.
>
> how unfortunate that God relies on mere mortals such as you to tell us
> his wishes. he can (supposedly) create a Universe but cannot (for
> example) patch into our communication systems and send messages directly.

the Bible is given for that purpose as well as Prophets and teachers. He
speaks to those that have ears to hear. We were and are designed for that
communication purpose.

On May 25, 2024, Maximus wrote
(in article <lbflccF5di8U2@mid.individual.net>):

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > news:0001HW.2C0261710006C88B30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> >
> > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > >
> > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > >
> > > > > On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > >
> > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > > (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
> > > > > > > > rg:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > > > > (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > > news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-septemb
> > > > > > > > > > er.o rg:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be
> > > > > > > > > > > no peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the
> > > > > > > > > > > heart with enmity.
> > > > > > > > > > And God does nothing about that
> > > > > > > > > > because he hates humanity, could care
> > > > > > > > > > less about humanity, is powerless to
> > > > > > > > > > prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Which is it, do you think?
> > > > > > > > > He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace,
> > > > > > > > > and eternal life with him.
> > > > > > > > The question was about Satan.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why does God permit him to
> > > > > > > > "kill and destroy�
> > > > > > > Man did,
> > > > > > __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __God is powerless to stop Satan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __God doesn't care either way
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which is it?
> > > > > None of them.
> > > > So God is NOT incontrol of
> > > > everything that happens.
> > > There are other options that you are not aware of.
> >
> > Such as........?
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > So much for the Divine Plan.....
> > > The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
> >
> > Walk thru a pediatric oncology ward
> > and tell us how children dying of cancer
> > are part of a "Divine Plan".
>
> yes. and that's why ppl like him telling us it's all God's will make me
> angry.

People like me never would say such a thing. But it is nice to hear that you
get defensive for God and get angry about such ignorant statements.

Robert wrote:
> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article <XnsB17DD42C4C3D4629555@185.151.15.190>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2C0261710006C88B30F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>> (in article <XnsB17D83910A038629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>
>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>> news:0001HW.2C024D170002035330F47438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 25, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>> (in article <XnsB17D531BD9F9C629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0188D8002B116730A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.o
>>>>>>>> rg:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-septemb
>>>>>>>>>> er.o rg:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be
>>>>>>>>>>> no peace. Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the
>>>>>>>>>>> heart with enmity.
>>>>>>>>>> And God does nothing about that
>>>>>>>>>> because he hates humanity, could care
>>>>>>>>>> less about humanity, is powerless to
>>>>>>>>>> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which is it, do you think?
>>>>>>>>> He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace,
>>>>>>>>> and eternal life with him.
>>>>>>>> The question was about Satan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why does God permit him to
>>>>>>>> "kill and destroy”?
>>>>>>> Man did,
>>>>>> __God wants Satan to kill and destroy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __God is powerless to stop Satan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __God doesn't care either way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is it?
>>>>> None of them.
>>>> So God is NOT incontrol of
>>>> everything that happens.
>>> There are other options that you are not aware of.
>> Such as........?
> Your choice as to following Jesus, or not.
>>
>>>>
>>>> So much for the Divine Plan.....
>>> The Divine Plan has already been laid out and is fully on course.
>> Walk thru a pediatric oncology ward
>> and tell us how children dying of cancer
>> are part of a "Divine Plan".
> What makes you think they were? Why do you accuse God in heaven for these
> things instead of the god of this world, Satan? The destroyer/

I think you make this stuff up as you go along. you claim God created
everything, now you say Satan created cancer. but those of us who know
better know diseases are from a biological source, not from beings that
don't exist

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"