pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>
>>> and saving you from
>>> eternal damnation.
>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>> any other He may have in store for you.
> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
> sees Jesus."
> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>

that idea stemmed from the Old Testament practice of sacrificing a
'spotless' lamb as a sacrifice for sins. Jesus as the 'lamb of god' was
a theology developed by early christians. I doubt Jesus ever referred to
himself as such, afaik.

>> (signed)
>> a Universalist.
> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
> children.
> --
> pyotr
> After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
> the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
> You in your way, and I in His."

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On May 22, 2024, Maximus wrote
(in article <lb7os0Ft4itU1@mid.individual.net>):

> that idea stemmed from the Old Testament practice of sacrificing a
> 'spotless' lamb as a sacrifice for sins. Jesus as the 'lamb of god' was
> a theology developed by early christians. I doubt Jesus ever referred to
> himself as such, afaik.

Isaiah 53:7(KJV)

7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is
brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is
dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

On 23/05/2024 12:44 pm, Maximus wrote:
> pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>> alt.christnet.christianlife  the following:
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>
>>>> and saving you from
>>>> eternal damnation.
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>     We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day.  The whole
>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>> sees Jesus."
>>     You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>
>
> that idea stemmed from the Old Testament practice of sacrificing a
> 'spotless' lamb as a sacrifice for sins. Jesus as the 'lamb of god' was
> a theology developed by early christians. I doubt Jesus ever referred to
> himself as such,

> afaik.

Which is nothing, Talking Headimus. :-).

Clueless, but it doesn't stop you opening your mouth! After all, you can
hear yourself and that is all that matters.

You poor wretched ignoramus.

Serves you right!

Michael Christ

>
>
>>> (signed)
>>> a Universalist.
>>     I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>> children.
>> --
>> pyotr
>> After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out.  The one said to
>> the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
>> You in your way, and I in His."
>
>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>
>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>
>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>
>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>
>>
>>      The original post was right, it
>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>
>>        - kidnapper
>>
>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>        - Christianity
>
> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it there
> would be no need for salvation.
>
>
>
Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking. No, there
is more to following the rules than this. People must be willing to
live in peace together or there can be no peace for anyone. The
Universe is larger than the human race can grasp, so what is the
reason for this if we are the only ones in it?

No, there is more.

Robert <robert@no.way> on Wed, 22 May 2024 09:24:33 -0700 typed in
alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
>(in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
>
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>> > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>> >
>> > > and saving you from
>> > > eternal damnation.
>> >
>> > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>> >
>> > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>> > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>> > any other He may have in store for you.
>>
>> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>> sees Jesus."
>> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>
>> >
>> > (signed)
>> > a Universalist.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>> children.
>
>Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.

So what?

Robert wants to deny that all people are God's children? It is
just that some admit it, and some don't.

And not all who say "Lord Lord .." will enter into the Lord's
rest.
--
pyotr
After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
You in your way, and I in His."

On May 23, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
(in article<v7nv4jpbvd102v2qb4engace3puk1kl8ll@4ax.com>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> on Wed, 22 May 2024 09:24:33 -0700 typed in
> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
> > On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
> > (in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
> > > alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
> > > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > and saving you from
> > > > > eternal damnation.
> > > >
> > > > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> > > >
> > > > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> > > > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> > > > any other He may have in store for you.
> > >
> > > We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
> > > God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
> > > gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
> > > sees Jesus."
> > > You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
> > > and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
> > >
> > > >
> > > > (signed)
> > > > a Universalist.
> > >
> > > I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
> > > some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
> > > children.
> >
> > Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.
>
> So what?

Because when you are denied entry into heaven because you were not a child of
God, it is too late to make amends.
That is why being a universalist is not wise.

Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes unto the
father but through me.
>
>
> Robert wants to deny that all people are God's children? It is
> just that some admit it, and some don't.
>
> And not all who say "Lord Lord .." will enter into the Lord's
> Rest.
That’s correct. And the rest of that sentences is, “Not every one that
saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he
that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” (Mat 7:21, KJV)“And
then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work
iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:” (Mat
7:23-24, KJV)

What do you love the most? The Lord Jesus Christ, or your religious
denomination?

"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:

> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>
>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>
>>>
>>>      The original post was right, it
>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>
>>>        - kidnapper
>>>
>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>        - Christianity
>>
>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>
>>
>>
> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.

Or the Protestant Church.

"I should have no compassion on these
witches; I should burn them all."
Martin Luther

> No,
> there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
> willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
> anyone.

Religions have never been able
to live in peace together.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>
>>>>      The original post was right, it
>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>
>>>>        - kidnapper
>>>>
>>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>        - Christianity
>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>
> Or the Protestant Church.
>
>
> "I should have no compassion on these
> witches; I should burn them all."
> Martin Luther
>
>
>
>> No,
>> there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
>> willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
>> anyone.
>
> Religions have never been able
> to live in peace together.

so true!

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On 5/23/2024 8:34 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      The original post was right, it
>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>
>>>>        - kidnapper
>>>>
>>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>        - Christianity
>>>
>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>
>
> Or the Protestant Church.
>
>
> "I should have no compassion on these
> witches; I should burn them all."
> Martin Luther
>
>
>
>> No,
>> there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
>> willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
>> anyone.
>
>
> Religions have never been able
> to live in peace together.

Very true. Christianity, Judaism and Islam, but I've made it this far
as a Christian by staying out of sight and avoiding all those that
have no desire for peace.

On May 24, 2024, Rod E. wrote
(in article <v2qbpk$2cnr6$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 5/23/2024 8:34 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
> >
> > > On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
> > > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > Michael Christ<michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
> > > > > news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and saving you from
> > > > > > > > > eternal damnation.
> > > > > > > > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> > > > > > > > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> > > > > > > > any other He may have in store for you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (signed)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a Universalist.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Religion has actually convinced
> > > > > > > people that there's an invisible
> > > > > > > man living in the sky who watches
> > > > > > > everything you do, every minute of
> > > > > > > every day. And the invisible man
> > > > > > > has a special list of ten things he
> > > > > > > does not want you to do. And if you
> > > > > > > do any of these ten things, he has
> > > > > > > a special place, full of fire and
> > > > > > > smoke and burning and torture and
> > > > > > > anguish, where he will send you to
> > > > > > > live and suffer and burn and choke
> > > > > > > and scream and cry forever and ever
> > > > > > > 'til the end of time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But He loves you!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
> > > > > > Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The original post was right, it
> > > > > is spiritual terrorism.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
> > > > >
> > > > > - kidnapper
> > > > >
> > > > > "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
> > > > > - Christianity
> > > >
> > > > the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
> > > > there would be no need for salvation.
> > > Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
> >
> >
> > Or the Protestant Church.
> >
> >
> > "I should have no compassion on these
> > witches; I should burn them all."
> > Martin Luther
> >
> >
> >
> > > No,
> > > there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
> > > willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
> > > anyone.
> >
> >
> > Religions have never been able
> > to live in peace together.
>
> Very true. Christianity, Judaism and Islam, but I've made it this far
> as a Christian by staying out of sight and avoiding all those that
> have no desire for peace.

Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no peace.
Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart with enmity. This is in
the hearts of all men who know not Jesus.

Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:

>
>
> Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no peace.
> Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart with enmity.

And God does nothing about that
because he hates humanity, could care
less about humanity, is powerless to
prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.

Which is it, do you think?

On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> >
> >
> > Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no peace.
> > Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart with enmity.
>
> And God does nothing about that
> because he hates humanity, could care
> less about humanity, is powerless to
> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>
> Which is it, do you think?

He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace, and eternal life
with him.
But you reject it, he won’t force you to have the best of both worlds.
Chose you this day whom you will serve.

On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>
>>>>>      The original post was right, it
>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>>
>>>>>        - kidnapper
>>>>>
>>>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>>        - Christianity
>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>      Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>>
>>        Or the Protestant Church.
>>
>>
>> "I should have no compassion on these
>> witches; I should burn them all."
>> Martin Luther
>>
>>
>>
>>> No,
>>>      there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
>>>      willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
>>>      anyone.
>>
>>       Religions have never been able
>> to live in peace together.
>
> so true!

"Snapshot of an ignorant fools."

Yet more moron sweepings statements.

Man has never been able to live in peace together.

Leave God and those who are truly His out of it.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no peace.
>> > Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart with enmity.
>>
>> And God does nothing about that
>> because he hates humanity, could care
>> less about humanity, is powerless to
>> prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
>>
>> Which is it, do you think?
>
> He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace, and eternal
> life with him.

The question was about Satan.

Why does God permit him to
"kill and destroy"?

Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me:

> On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      The original post was right, it
>>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - kidnapper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>>>        - Christianity
>>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>      Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>>>
>>>        Or the Protestant Church.
>>>
>>>
>>> "I should have no compassion on these
>>> witches; I should burn them all."
>>> Martin Luther
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> No,
>>>>      there is more to following the rules than this. People
>>>> must be      willing to live in peace together or there can be
>>>> no peace for      anyone.
>>>
>>>       Religions have never been able
>>> to live in peace together.
>>
>> so true!
>
> "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
>
> Yet more moron sweepings statements.
>
> Man has never been able to live in peace together.

Wasn't Ye Floode supposed to fix that?

In article <lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth writes:
>Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.

It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments which, when
disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone involved. An
unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live with one another by
trial and error, with the strong doing what they can and the weak doing what
they must.

In article <lb67siFm3bsU1@mid.individual.net>, gladiator@colosseum.rome writes:
>the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it there
>would be no need for salvation.

We don't need salvation from God's punishment; we inflict worse punishment on
one another with all our evil sin.

In article <XnsB17ACF18654E5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com writes:
> Christianity: The belief that a
>cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his
>own father can make you live
>forever if you eat his flesh and
>telepathecally tell him you accept
>him as your master, so he can
>remove an evil force from your soul
>that is present in humanity because
>a rib-woman was convinced by a
>talking snake to eat from a magical
>tree - yep, perfectly logical.

The only way Jesus could perpetually atone for the world's sins is to
resurrect. Dead men can't redeem anyone. What's more fantastical: a talking
snake or the evil voices inside our heads putting us headlong into disaster
with our fellow humans, animals and the planet?

On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article <XnsB17CCFAB21169629555@185.151.15.190>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2C010F14000E879B30A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 24, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article <XnsB17C81669F34629555@185.151.15.190>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2C0103FF000BEEA630A8F938F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Without Jesus Christ in a persons heart there will be no peace.
> > > > Satan comes to kill, and destroy, filling the heart with enmity.
> > >
> > > And God does nothing about that
> > > because he hates humanity, could care
> > > less about humanity, is powerless to
> > > prevent it, or WANTS it to happen.
> > >
> > > Which is it, do you think?
> >
> > He gave up His Son for you, so that you could have peace, and eternal
> > life with him.
>
> The question was about Satan.
>
> Why does God permit him to
> "kill and destroy”?

Man did,

"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:XnsB179D1307E24B629555@185.151.15.190...
>
>Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>
>>> and saving you from
>>> eternal damnation.
>>
>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>
>> (signed)
>>
>> a Universalist.
>>
>
>
>"Religion has actually convinced
>people that there's an invisible
>man living in the sky who watches
>everything you do, every minute of
>every day. And the invisible man
>has a special list of ten things he
>does not want you to do. And if you
>do any of these ten things, he has
>a special place, full of fire and
>smoke and burning and torture and
>anguish, where he will send you to
>live and suffer and burn and choke
>and scream and cry forever and ever
>'til the end of time.
>
>But He loves you!"
>
>George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>

That's right, but your government does watch what you do and will fine or
imprison you if you go against it. Many government dissenters are in
poverty, prison or dead right now. That's the real hell.

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"Creon" wrote in message news:lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net...
>
>On Wed, 22 May 2024 01:35:11 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>
>>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>>
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God Almighty...in
>>> this life or in any other He may have in store for you.
>>>
>>> (signed)
>>>
>>> a Universalist.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man
>> living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every
>> day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not
>> want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special
>> place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where
>> he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and
>> cry forever and ever 'til the end of time.
>>
>> But He loves you!"
>>
>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>
>"Yes: He loves you, but if you don't believe in just the right
>way, God will throw you in his dungeon."
>
>Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>

And who made those doctrines? Corrupt governments like the Roman one that
modified the Bible.

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"Orlando Enrique Fiol" wrote in message
news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>In article <lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth writes:
>>Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>
>It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments which, when
>disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone involved. An
>unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live with one another
>by
>trial and error, with the strong doing what they can and the weak doing
>what
>they must.
>

Trial and error is the only proper way humans can learn.
Have the commandments worked so far? Nope. Why? Because the people who
really need to follow them ignore them. The Bible only preaches to the
choir. Useless.

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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
news:XnsB17BD0F3A7396629555@185.151.15.190...
>
>"Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â Â The original post was right, it
>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â Â "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â - kidnapper
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â Â "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â - Christianity
>>>
>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>
>
> Or the Protestant Church.
>
>
>"I should have no compassion on these
>witches; I should burn them all."
>Martin Luther
>
>
>
>> No,
>> there is more to following the rules than this. People must be
>> willing to live in peace together or there can be no peace for
>> anyone.
>
>
> Religions have never been able
>to live in peace together.
>

Neither have governments. They have both lied to us. But you still listen to
and follow one.

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On 25/05/2024 11:28 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> news:v2r2jt$2gpfd$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 24/05/2024 8:59 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> "Rod E." <dx7066801@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v2oha2$1vb8l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2024 7:48 AM, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>>>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>>>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>>>>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>>>>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>>>>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>>>>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>>>>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>>>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>>>>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>>>>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>>>>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>>>>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>>>>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>>>>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>>>>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      The original post was right, it
>>>>>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        - kidnapper
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>>>>>        - Christianity
>>>>>> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it
>>>>>> there would be no need for salvation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>      Conform or die? Sounds like the Catholic Church speaking.
>>>>
>>>>        Or the Protestant Church.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "I should have no compassion on these
>>>> witches; I should burn them all."
>>>> Martin Luther
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> No,
>>>>>      there is more to following the rules than this. People
>>>>> must be      willing to live in peace together or there can be
>>>>> no peace for      anyone.
>>>>
>>>>       Religions have never been able
>>>> to live in peace together.
>>>
>>> so true!
>>
>> "Snapshot of an ignorant fools."
>>
>> Yet more moron sweepings statements.
>>
>> Man has never been able to live in peace together.
>
>
> Wasn't Ye Floode supposed to fix that?

The Lord Jesus Christ fixes the person. However, what is screamingly
obvious is that you are unwilling to obey Him.

So, your lot is cast.

In the name of Jesus.

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

On 25/05/2024 1:18 pm, Andrew W wrote:
> "Orlando Enrique Fiol"  wrote in message
> news:MPG.40bb0a01b04affd198968f@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> In article <lb53k4Ffj3rU5@mid.individual.net>, creon@creon.earth writes:
>>> Doesn't make any sense.  Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>>
>> It's because God loves us that he's given us commandments which, when
>> disobeyed, inevitably cause pain and suffering to everyone involved. An
>> unloving God would have left us to figure out how to live with one
>> another by
>> trial and error, with the strong doing what they can and the weak
>> doing what
>> they must.
>>
>
> Trial and error is the only proper way humans can learn.
> Have the commandments worked so far? Nope. Why? Because the people who
> really need to follow them ignore them. The Bible only preaches to the
> choir. Useless.

The bible does not preach, "Keep the 10 commandments (law)" in the New
Testament of His blood.

In the Name of Jesus.

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."