On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:

> and saving you from
> eternal damnation.

Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.

One would do well not to doubt the salvific
powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
any other He may have in store for you.

(signed)

a Universalist.

--
-c

Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:

> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>
>> and saving you from
>> eternal damnation.
>
> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>
> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> any other He may have in store for you.
>
> (signed)
>
> a Universalist.
>

"Religion has actually convinced
people that there's an invisible
man living in the sky who watches
everything you do, every minute of
every day. And the invisible man
has a special list of ten things he
does not want you to do. And if you
do any of these ten things, he has
a special place, full of fire and
smoke and burning and torture and
anguish, where he will send you to
live and suffer and burn and choke
and scream and cry forever and ever
'til the end of time.

But He loves you!"

George Carlin, Dec 23 2005

On Wed, 22 May 2024 01:35:11 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:

> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>
>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>
>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God Almighty...in
>> this life or in any other He may have in store for you.
>>
>> (signed)
>>
>> a Universalist.
>>
>>
>
> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man
> living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every
> day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not
> want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special
> place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where
> he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and
> cry forever and ever 'til the end of time.
>
> But He loves you!"
>
> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005

"Yes: He loves you, but if you don't believe in just the right
way, God will throw you in his dungeon."

Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.

--
-c

On 22/05/2024 10:48 am, Creon wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>
>> and saving you from
>> eternal damnation.
>
> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.

What have you got to fear if you love Him with all your heart?

Are you in doubt?

Michael Christ

>
> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> any other He may have in store for you.
>
> (signed)
>
> a Universalist.
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

Creon wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2024 01:35:11 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>
>>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>>
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God Almighty...in
>>> this life or in any other He may have in store for you.
>>>
>>> (signed)
>>>
>>> a Universalist.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man
>> living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every
>> day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not
>> want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special
>> place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where
>> he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and
>> cry forever and ever 'til the end of time.
>>
>> But He loves you!"
>>
>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>
> "Yes: He loves you, but if you don't believe in just the right
> way, God will throw you in his dungeon."
>
> Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>
but it says what it is

On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>
>>> and saving you from
>>> eternal damnation.
>>
>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>
>> (signed)
>>
>> a Universalist.
>>
>
>
> "Religion has actually convinced
> people that there's an invisible
> man living in the sky who watches
> everything you do, every minute of
> every day. And the invisible man
> has a special list of ten things he
> does not want you to do. And if you
> do any of these ten things, he has
> a special place, full of fire and
> smoke and burning and torture and
> anguish, where he will send you to
> live and suffer and burn and choke
> and scream and cry forever and ever
> 'til the end of time.
>
> But He loves you!"
>
> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005

Snapshot of an ignorant fool.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:

>On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>
>> and saving you from
>> eternal damnation.
>
>Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>
>One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>any other He may have in store for you.

Why God deprives people of heaven.
Source: Garrett 1979:178.
Bishop Innocent was visiting his brother Stephen in the
village of Lesnov, and after lunch one day a certain Deacon
Nicholas asked why, if God was infinitely merciful, he would
deprive anyone of his heavenly kingdom. Bishop Innocent asked
in return why the deacon kept twisting his head from side to
side. "Because the sun keeps hitting me right in the eye and
just won't leave me in peace", the deacon replied. "There,
you've just answered your own question," the bishop laughed.
"God doesn't deprive of his heavenly kingdom sinners who don't
repent. They themselves simply can't bear its light - any more
than you can bear the light of the sun."

--
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

On 22/05/2024 10:48 am, Creon wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>
>> and saving you from
>> eternal damnation.
>
> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>
> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> any other He may have in store for you.
>
> (signed)
>

> a Universalist.

Maybe. I have been exposed to this before.

Will God save everyone in the ultimate end? Well, if that were to be the
case, all would have to be refined through the fire. You can't have the
foul spirit that operates around this place in heaven, though. However,
every knee shall bow, and that strikes me as an act of submission.

A good thing.

The question is, is the kneeling of one sinner better than that of
another? Is God not the Saviour? In other words, nothing in a man's
personal actions makes him worthy or justified of salvation; it is a
gift. I speculate because the Lord hasn't revealed to me what the end
game is yet. One thing is for sure: I am not meant to know at this time,
as it keeps me in the right "spiritual location," where He wants me, so
to speak.

However, one of the most convincing things in relation to your
universalism is the behaviour of these sinner Christians with bibles in
their hands. What makes these sinners any better than other sinners they
look down at their noses upon? Like a prostitute or a publican? What? A
better quality of sinner because of a personal theology claim?

No, that is not a goer, obviously.

Theology can't save nor does simply a claim on what Jesus did on the
cross; the Lord Jesus died for the sins of the whole world!

Or are there really only a few saved and many called, and the many
called fail because they refuse to be fully corrected and disciplined to
lose their lives? I do ponder about the few being members of the royal
family and then the many ending up slaves. You know, the last shall be
first, and the first shall be last.

So, yeah, everything is on the table as far as I am concerned until the
Lord tells me otherwise. I am not losing any sleep about it. He has it
all in hand. Besides, it is a nice thought to imagine that all will be
saved in the end. It sort of gives meaning to constantly forgiving
others—well, that is how it feels right now.

The Lord Jesus prayed on the cross to forgive them all (some ignorant
satanic assholes call Him sin on the cross), and in the same Spirit of
the Lord, Stephen prayed for the forgiveness of those who were stoning
him. "The prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

And there are other considerations, like where a sinner is on the
continuum and the like, but I would be writing a lot more, and I have
already written an expiration "attention span" amount for a newsgroup
email. Still, every time I write with good intention for others
(always), the Lord is still saying something to me, even if the audience
is hostile, which is usually the case. That is why I write, interact,
and have been on these newsgroups so much and for so long; it is a great
venue for the Lord's "colour." :-).

But that definitely has a short expiration date. I won't be doing this
right up till the day I drop dead, that is for sure.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
news:NoWcnenBPrtPwdD7nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> Creon wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 May 2024 01:35:11 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>>>
>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God
>>>> Almighty...in this life or in any other He may have in store for
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> (signed)
>>>>
>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible
>>> man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of
>>> every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he
>>> does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he
>>> has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture
>>> and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and
>>> choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time.
>>>
>>> But He loves you!"
>>>
>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>
>> "Yes: He loves you, but if you don't believe in just the right
>> way, God will throw you in his dungeon."
>>
>> Doesn't make any sense. Maybe it made sense to medievals.
>>
> but it says what it is

That's the depressing part.

Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:

> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>
>>>> and saving you from
>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>
>>> (signed)
>>>
>>> a Universalist.
>>>
>>
>>
>> "Religion has actually convinced
>> people that there's an invisible
>> man living in the sky who watches
>> everything you do, every minute of
>> every day. And the invisible man
>> has a special list of ten things he
>> does not want you to do. And if you
>> do any of these ten things, he has
>> a special place, full of fire and
>> smoke and burning and torture and
>> anguish, where he will send you to
>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>> 'til the end of time.
>>
>> But He loves you!"
>>
>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>
> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.

The original post was right, it
is spiritual terrorism.

"Do as I tell you or I will kill you"

- kidnapper

"Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
- Christianity

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>
>>>> (signed)
>>>>
>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>> people that there's an invisible
>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>
>>> But He loves you!"
>>>
>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>
>
> The original post was right, it
> is spiritual terrorism.
>
> "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>
> - kidnapper
>
> "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>
> - Christianity

the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it there
would be no need for salvation.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>
>>> and saving you from
>>> eternal damnation.
>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>> any other He may have in store for you.
> Why God deprives people of heaven.
> Source: Garrett 1979:178.
> Bishop Innocent was visiting his brother Stephen in the
> village of Lesnov, and after lunch one day a certain Deacon
> Nicholas asked why, if God was infinitely merciful, he would
> deprive anyone of his heavenly kingdom. Bishop Innocent asked
> in return why the deacon kept twisting his head from side to
> side. "Because the sun keeps hitting me right in the eye and
> just won't leave me in peace", the deacon replied. "There,
> you've just answered your own question," the bishop laughed.
> "God doesn't deprive of his heavenly kingdom sinners who don't
> repent. They themselves simply can't bear its light - any more
> than you can bear the light of the sun."
>
>

except there is no 'heavenly kingdom'

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>
>> and saving you from
>> eternal damnation.
>
>Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>
>One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>any other He may have in store for you.

We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
sees Jesus."
You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".

>
>(signed)
>a Universalist.

I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
children.
--
pyotr
After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
You in your way, and I in His."

On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
(in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):

> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
> > On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
> >
> > > and saving you from
> > > eternal damnation.
> >
> > Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> >
> > One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> > powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> > any other He may have in store for you.
>
> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
> sees Jesus."
> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>
> >
> > (signed)
> > a Universalist.
>
> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
> children.

Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.

Robert wrote:
> On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
> (in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
>
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>
>>>> and saving you from
>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>
>> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>> sees Jesus."
>> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>
>>>
>>> (signed)
>>> a Universalist.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>> children.
>
> Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.
>
no wait , there's one part here that ,
isn't in denial so he's not totally , not yet

In article <lb680cFm3bsU2@mid.individual.net>, gladiator@colosseum.rome
says...
>
> Steve Hayes wrote:
> > On 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT, Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
> >>
> >>> and saving you from
> >>> eternal damnation.
> >> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
> >>
> >> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
> >> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
> >> any other He may have in store for you.
> > Why God deprives people of heaven.
> > Source: Garrett 1979:178.
> > Bishop Innocent was visiting his brother Stephen in the
> > village of Lesnov, and after lunch one day a certain Deacon
> > Nicholas asked why, if God was infinitely merciful, he would
> > deprive anyone of his heavenly kingdom. Bishop Innocent asked
> > in return why the deacon kept twisting his head from side to
> > side. "Because the sun keeps hitting me right in the eye and
> > just won't leave me in peace", the deacon replied. "There,
> > you've just answered your own question," the bishop laughed.
> > "God doesn't deprive of his heavenly kingdom sinners who don't
> > repent. They themselves simply can't bear its light - any more
> > than you can bear the light of the sun."
> >
> >
>
> except there is no 'heavenly kingdom'

how do you know?

On 22/05/2024 10:48 pm, Maximus wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>
>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>>> people that there's an invisible
>>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>>
>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>
>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>
>>
>>      The original post was right, it
>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>>      "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>
>>        - kidnapper
>>
>>      "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>        - Christianity
>
> the fear of suffering in hell is the basis of Xtianity. without it there
> would be no need for salvation.

And "ignorant fool" is right up the Maximus alley.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

On 22/05/2024 10:32 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>
>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>
>>>> (signed)
>>>>
>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Religion has actually convinced
>>> people that there's an invisible
>>> man living in the sky who watches
>>> everything you do, every minute of
>>> every day. And the invisible man
>>> has a special list of ten things he
>>> does not want you to do. And if you
>>> do any of these ten things, he has
>>> a special place, full of fire and
>>> smoke and burning and torture and
>>> anguish, where he will send you to
>>> live and suffer and burn and choke
>>> and scream and cry forever and ever
>>> 'til the end of time.
>>>
>>> But He loves you!"
>>>
>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>
>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>
>
>
> The original post was right, it
> is spiritual terrorism.
>
> "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>
> - kidnapper
>
> "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>
> - Christianity

Another snapshot of an ignorant fool.

You can't deal with reality by being a fool, Hollowman.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On 23/05/2024 2:24 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
> (in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
>
>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>
>>>> and saving you from
>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>
>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>
>> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>> sees Jesus."
>> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>
>>>
>>> (signed)
>>> a Universalist.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>> children.
>
> Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.

Not you.

Get out of here, you non-stop religious wanker.

Thank you.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On Thu, 23 May 2024 06:52:38 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:

> On 22/05/2024 10:32 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God
>>>>> Almighty...in this life or in any other He may have in store for
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>
>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man
>>>> living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of
>>>> every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he
>>>> does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he
>>>> has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture
>>>> and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and
>>>> choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time.
>>>>
>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>
>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>
>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>
>>
>>
>> The original post was right, it
>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>
>> "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>
>> - kidnapper
>>
>> "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>
>> - Christianity
>
> Another snapshot of an ignorant fool.

Logical fallacy.

>
> You can't deal with reality by being a fool, Hollowman.

Logical fallacy.

https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/#hominem

--
I am not a lawyer; I am The Ref.

On Thu, 23 May 2024 06:55:44 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:

> On 23/05/2024 2:24 am, Robert wrote:
>> On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
>> (in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
>>
>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>
>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>
>>> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
>>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>>> sees Jesus."
>>> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (signed)
>>>> a Universalist.
>>>
>>> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>>> children.
>>
>> Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.
>
> Not you.
>
> Get out of here, you non-stop religious wanker.

Where is "here"? You're posting to 5 newsgroups.

The fact remains that "damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism",
and it is a _terrorism_ that _you, yourself_ have tried to use.

Try better, nardless.

--
-c

On 23/05/2024 8:28 am, The Ref wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2024 06:52:38 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 22/05/2024 10:32 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God
>>>>>> Almighty...in this life or in any other He may have in store for
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man
>>>>> living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of
>>>>> every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he
>>>>> does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he
>>>>> has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture
>>>>> and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and
>>>>> choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>
>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>
>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The original post was right, it
>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>
>>> - kidnapper
>>>
>>> "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>
>>> - Christianity
>>
>> Another snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>
> Logical fallacy.
>
>>
>> You can't deal with reality by being a fool, Hollowman.
>
> Logical fallacy.
>
> https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/#hominem

Of course it is because you say it is. :-).

Therefore, you are not a snapshot of an ignorant fool. :-).

Lead the way, Oh Great Ref.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

On 23/05/2024 8:32 am, Creon wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2024 06:55:44 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/2024 2:24 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
>>> (in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>>>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>>
>>>> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
>>>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>>>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>>>> sees Jesus."
>>>> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>>>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (signed)
>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>
>>>> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>>>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>>>> children.
>>>
>>> Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.
>>
>> Not you.
>>
>> Get out of here, you non-stop religious wanker.
>
> Where is "here"? You're posting to 5 newsgroups.

It is metaphorical, King Charles. :-).

> The fact remains that "damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism",
> and it is a _terrorism_ that _you, yourself_ have tried to use.
>
> Try better, nardless.

How about you go catch a bus? :-).

You don't know me or the ways I walk in, City Central.

What you sow, so shall you reap: soapbox antics about "damnation
doctrine" and "spiritual terrorism" replaced with your own perfect
doctrine and wonderful insights ain't gonna changeth that.

Something smells here. Like you are trying to get away with something.

Anyone who fears God's perfect justice doesn't know God and doesn't want
to have to face Him.

Nevertheless, you will anyway. Best you try to get to know Him while the
opportunity still avails itself.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

The Ref <ref@creon.earth> wrote in news:Tju3O.6779$gKW1.4716@fx13.iad:

> On Thu, 23 May 2024 06:52:38 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 22/05/2024 10:32 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Michael Christ <michaelmclean92910@outlook.com> wrote in
>>> news:v2jp4n$100ao$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 22/05/2024 11:35 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> wrote in
>>>>> news:lb4tmqFfj3rU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and saving you from eternal damnation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific powers of God
>>>>>> Almighty...in this life or in any other He may have in store for
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (signed)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible
>>>>> man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute
>>>>> of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten
>>>>> things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten
>>>>> things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning
>>>>> and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer
>>>>> and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the
>>>>> end of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> But He loves you!"
>>>>>
>>>>> George Carlin, Dec 23 2005
>>>>
>>>> Snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The original post was right, it
>>> is spiritual terrorism.
>>>
>>> "Do as I tell you or I will kill you"
>>>
>>> - kidnapper
>>>
>>> "Believe as I tell you or suffer in Hell"
>>>
>>> - Christianity
>>
>> Another snapshot of an ignorant fool.
>
> Logical fallacy.
>
>>
>> You can't deal with reality by being a fool, Hollowman.
>
> Logical fallacy.
>
> https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/#ho
> minem
>

As if Christians even know
what logic is, much less care,

Christianity: The belief that a
cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his
own father can make you live
forever if you eat his flesh and
telepathecally tell him you accept
him as your master, so he can
remove an evil force from your soul
that is present in humanity because
a rib-woman was convinced by a
talking snake to eat from a magical
tree - yep, perfectly logical.

Creon wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2024 06:55:44 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/2024 2:24 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 22, 2024, pyotr filipivich wrote
>>> (in article<a34s4jd5mgquqhr7e4t2fnhthm7nudmii9@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> Creon <creon@creon.earth> on 22 May 2024 00:48:26 GMT typed in
>>>> alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 17:16:47 -0500, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> and saving you from
>>>>>> eternal damnation.
>>>>> Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism.
>>>>>
>>>>> One would do well not to doubt the salvific
>>>>> powers of God Almighty...in this life or in
>>>>> any other He may have in store for you.
>>>> We called it "Frankenstein Evangelism" back in the day. The whole
>>>> God'll get you if you aren't able swap identities with Jesus so he
>>>> gets the punishment for your sins, and ever time God looks at you, he
>>>> sees Jesus."
>>>> You're still not reconciled with God, but you've got Jesus's id,
>>>> and as long as you hide behind that, you're "good".
>>>>
>>>>> (signed)
>>>>> a Universalist.
>>>> I'm of the opinion that all can be saved, many will be saved, but
>>>> some are so stubborn, they'd rather no admit they are one of God's
>>>> children.
>>> Too bad you are totally in denial of just who are God’s Children.
>> Not you.
>>
>> Get out of here, you non-stop religious wanker.
> Where is "here"? You're posting to 5 newsgroups.

he's an idiot

> The fact remains that "damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism",
> and it is a _terrorism_ that _you, yourself_ have tried to use.

so true

>
> Try better, nardless.
>

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