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Subject: Re: God, the Heavenly Father, and Jesus Christ His son, as written about in the OT
From: Michael Christ
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Subject: Re: God, the Heavenly Father, and Jesus Christ His son, as written
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Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 08:16:08 +1000
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On 22/05/2024 7:30 am, Robert wrote:
>
> Dan 7:13-14 (KJV)
>
> 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with
> the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him
> near before him.
>
> 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all
> people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an
> everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which
> shall not be destroyed.
>
> V 13 clearly identifies Jesus by the phrase ’son of man’ Mat 12:8For the
> Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Also Jesus identified himself
> many times by that phrase in other places in the NT
> Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and
> then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of
> man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
> As to the Heavenly Father? The one who gave Jesus all power, authority, and
> His Glory?
> Again V13 identifies the son coming unto the “Ancient of days” as he was
> brought near to him, and then in V14 one can see that Jesus was given all
> power and authority.
>
> If He comes to the Ancient of days, then He is not the Ancient of days. If
> they bring Him (the Son of man) near before Him (the Ancient of days), then
> it is confirmed twice in one scripture that these are two separate Persons,
> not two separate personalities. Which answers the questions of many as to why
> Jesus did not know, and will not know the day or the hour of His return to
> gather up his body of believers until His Heavenly Father says, GO!
>
> Daniels description of the Heavenly Father.
> Dan 7:9 (KJV)
>
> 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit,
> whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool:
> his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
>
> This leads to the understanding of,...
>
> 1 Corinthians 15:24-28(KJV)
>
> 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
> even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and
> power.
>
> 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
>
> 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
>
> 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things
> are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all
> things under him.
>
> 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also
> himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be
> all in all.
>
> V28 in this case refers to the son return all to His Heavenly Father, that
> God, His Heavenly Father, might be all in all.
>
> The mind reels at the continuity and the cohesiveness of the Scriptures of
> God, HIS Word!
>
> “A Psalm of David. THE LORD (God) says to my Lord (the Messiah), Sit at My
> right hand, until I make Your adversaries Your footstool. [Mat 26:64; Act
> 2:34; 1Co 15:25; Col 3:1; Heb 12:2]” (Psa 110:1, AMPC)
>
> “Jesus said to him, You have stated [the fact]. More than that, I tell you:
> You will in the future see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the
> Almighty and coming on the clouds of the sky. [Psa 110:1; Dan 7:13]” (Mat
> 26:64, AMPC)
>
> I just realized that I could have lessened by time searching the scriptures
> had I used the original version of the AMPC as it brought up the scriptures I
> previously mentioned. ;) but you still need the Holy Spirit to lead and
> provide the understanding.

God is not two persons or three persons; there is not more than One God.
This reminds me of the JWs, and their "a god." :-).

"There is only One God who expresses Himself in different ways."

Ever learning and never come to the knowledge of the truth! That is the
fate of those who like to play God with their bibles, those who worship
themselves with their bibles.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."


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