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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Michael Christ
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From: michaelmclean91210@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>
> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the work of
> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>
> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully man.
> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such as
> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult. He
> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He sinned
> not.
>
> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His Father
> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then ministered to
> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>
> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all mankind,
> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father, and
> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The Apostles who
> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what all
> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you desire to
> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings that God
> has in store for His Children.

> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he could
> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was seen.
> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>
> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from the
> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can literally
> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry that
> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the light,
> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and even
> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the Heavenly
> Father.
>
> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil one,
> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In the
> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>
> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!

You need to live that yourself.

You don't know Him.

All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.

The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
today, and forever. There is only One God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
clue what I am saying.

Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
Prince of Peace.

And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).

Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
to hear what is being said!

You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Rod E.
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On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>
>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the
>> work of
>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>
>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>> fully man.
>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>> such as
>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>> adult. He
>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
>> sinned
>> not.
>>
>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
>> Father
>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>> ministered to
>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>
>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>> mankind,
>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father,
>> and
>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>> Apostles who
>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of
>> what all
>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
>> desire to
>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings
>> that God
>> has in store for His Children.
>
>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he
>> could
>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was
>> seen.
>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>
>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times
>> from the
>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>> literally
>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>> ministry that
>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
>> light,
>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did,
>> and even
>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>> Heavenly
>> Father.
>>
>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil
>> one,
>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army.
>> In the
>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>
>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>
> You need to live that yourself.
>
> You don't know Him.
>
> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>
> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
> I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
> not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
> today, and forever. There is only One God.
>
> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>
> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
> clue what I am saying.
>
> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> Prince of Peace.
>
> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>
> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
> to hear what is being said!
>
> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>

Hypocrite.

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Robert
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On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v2cg40$399mf$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
> >
> > Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the work
> > of
> > my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
> >
> > Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
> > bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully man.
> > He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such as
> > man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult. He
> > worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He sinned
> > not.
> >
> > When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
> > came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
> > point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His Father
> > would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then ministered
> > to
> > and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
> >
> > At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all mankind,
> > in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father, and
> > filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The Apostles
> > who
> > were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
> > taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what all
> > Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you desire
> > to
> > against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings that
> > God
> > has in store for His Children.
>
> > Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he could
> > be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was seen.
> > Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
> >
> > I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from the
> > scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
> > literally
> > be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry that
> > he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
> > light,
> > that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and even
> > greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the Heavenly
> > Father.
> >
> > So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil one,
> > stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In the
> > name above ALL Names Jesus.
> >
> > Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>
> You need to live that yourself.
>
> You don't know Him.
>
> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>
> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
> I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
> not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
> today, and forever. There is only One God.

Yes, He is God. God the Son.“But that ye may know that the Son of man hath
power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,)
Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.” (Mat 9:6, KJV)Who is
Jesus.

Jesus was conceived, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When
as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was
found with child of the Holy Ghost.” (Mat 1:18, KJV)

“And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
(Luk 1:35, KJV)

Again you are dramatically without knowledge.

>
>
> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>
> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
> clue what I am saying.

I have already written about that, odd, you say I haven’t a clue, yet when
you read it your eyes were glazed over with ignorance.

Godhead, a word you do not comprehend.
>
>
> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> Prince of Peace.

The “everlasting father” was not mentioned in the original Hebrew. It was
added on by people with the same mindset as yourself.

“(9:5) For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the
government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-
joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;” (Isa 9:6, JPS)

This is a Jewish translation into English.

“For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is
upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for
I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.” (Isa 9:6, Brenton)

This was the original Hebrew translated into Greek by the Jews, hundreds of
years before Jesus was Born.

The Lord brought this anomaly to my attention because it just did not fit
with the rest of Scripture. He also showed me where to look for the truth of
the matter. That you are in previous error here is clearly seen.

>
>
> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>
> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
> to hear what is being said!

“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be
made the righteousness of God in him.” (2Co 5:21, KJV)

No one, who is of Christ is constantly sinning with vile, vulgar language and
so disrespectful of God and man, as you continuously are.

>
>
> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>
> Michael Christ

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Michael Christ
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On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>
>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the
>>> work of
>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>
>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>> fully man.
>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>> such as
>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>> adult. He
>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
>>> sinned
>>> not.
>>>
>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>> after he
>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at
>>> that
>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
>>> Father
>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>> ministered to
>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>
>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>> mankind,
>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>> Father, and
>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>> Apostles who
>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they
>>> too
>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of
>>> what all
>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
>>> desire to
>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings
>>> that God
>>> has in store for His Children.
>>
>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if
>>> he could
>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was
>>> seen.
>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>
>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times
>>> from the
>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>> literally
>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>> ministry that
>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>> the light,
>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did,
>>> and even
>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>> Heavenly
>>> Father.
>>>
>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>> evil one,
>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army.
>>> In the
>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>
>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!

Michael Christ wrote:
>> You need to live that yourself.
>>
>> You don't know Him.
>>
>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>
>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't.
>> So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus
>> is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is
>> yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>
>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>
>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have
>> a clue what I am saying.
>>
>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and
>> the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
>> called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father,
>> The Prince of Peace.
>>
>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
>> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>
>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too
>> deaf to hear what is being said!
>>
>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
>> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>>
>
>    Hypocrite.

Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?

Nah, of course not.

Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?

Of course, you have nothing to say about those lies. Instead, what do I
get? Just more of the same...

"You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."

On your way, Mr Superlative Non-Hypocrite.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."


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On 20/05/2024 1:30 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v2cg40$399mf$1@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>
>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the work
>>> of
>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>
>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully man.
>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such as
>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult. He
>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He sinned
>>> not.
>>>
>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His Father
>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then ministered
>>> to
>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>
>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all mankind,
>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father, and
>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The Apostles
>>> who
>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what all
>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you desire
>>> to
>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings that
>>> God
>>> has in store for His Children.
>>
>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he could
>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was seen.
>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>
>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from the
>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>> literally
>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry that
>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
>>> light,
>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and even
>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the Heavenly
>>> Father.
>>>
>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil one,
>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In the
>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>
>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>
>> You need to live that yourself.
>>
>> You don't know Him.
>>
>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>
>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
>> I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
>> not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
>> today, and forever. There is only One God.

> Yes, He is God.

End of story.

> God the Son.“But that ye may know that the Son of man hath
> power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,)
> Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.” (Mat 9:6, KJV)Who is
> Jesus.
>
> Jesus was conceived, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When
> as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was
> found with child of the Holy Ghost.” (Mat 1:18, KJV)
>
> “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
> thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that
> holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
> (Luk 1:35, KJV)
>
> Again you are dramatically without knowledge.

I wouldn't expect anything else from you and your dramatic
all-encompassing knowledge! :-).

Go and study some "more-yourself" to salvation. :-).

>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>
>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
>> clue what I am saying.
>
> I have already written about that, odd, you say I haven’t a clue, yet when
> you read it your eyes were glazed over with ignorance.
>
> Godhead, a word you do not comprehend.

It is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all things...One God, One Lord.

You are a wanker and fake who doesn't know what he is talking about.

Here is the proof...

"Who gave all power to Jesus?"

🙂. A nonsense humanistic religious fallen man question!

Q: Who gave God the power of God?

A: No one!

"Comprehend," wanker religionist?

Nah, of course not, it didn't come from you!

>> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
>> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
>> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
>> Prince of Peace.

Robert bullshit religion wrote:
> The “everlasting father” was not mentioned in the original Hebrew. It was
> added on by people with the same mindset as yourself.
>
> “(9:5) For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the
> government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-
> joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;” (Isa 9:6, JPS)
>
> This is a Jewish translation into English.
>
> “For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is
> upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for
> I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.” (Isa 9:6, Brenton)
>
> This was the original Hebrew translated into Greek by the Jews, hundreds of
> years before Jesus was Born.

It's bullshit. "The Messenger of great counsel." :-). Yeah, just a great
teacher! That is just another way of saying, "Jesus is not God."

"Brenton" 1800s original Hebrew translation (re-imagining in sinful man)
into Greek, not of Moses (or whoever) was false or a "mistake" or a
"piece of stupid."

Who the hell is Brenton anyway? One of your Buddies? :-).

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
Prince of Peace.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/yeshayahu-isaiah-chapter-9

> The Lord brought this anomaly to my attention because it just did not fit
> with the rest of Scripture. He also showed me where to look for the truth of
> the matter. That you are in previous error here is clearly seen.

You and them do not know the Lord Jesus Christ is God.

But you can go become an original "Brenton" Hebrew if you like! :-).

You stubborn idiot; put the other foot in it too!

You don't meditate on the truth in the Lord's personal revelation
because you are a fake; you are not in Christ. All you do is soak in
your own self-worship with your bible.

Michael Christ wrote:
>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
>> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).

Ain't that the truth!

Michael Christ wrote:
>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
>> to hear what is being said!

Robert Religion wrote:
> “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be
> made the righteousness of God in him.” (2Co 5:21, KJV)

"Who knew no sin." He did not become sin, you bastard!

He did not not literally become sin, you piece of shit. He was and is
the spotless lamb, a righteous, pure, holy sacrifice, and He will be
known as that throughout eternity; He is always the same, yesterday,
today, and forever. God.

He was made to be sin for us, but He never sinned, was never sin, and
God is not a sinner! Jesus is God. You have taken the name of the Lord
in vain.

That shows you don't know Him; you don't have a fuckin' clue, you
ignorant man-made religious asshole!

Robert Religion wrote:
> No one, who is of Christ is constantly sinning with vile, vulgar language and
> so disrespectful of God and man, as you continuously are.


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Michael Christ
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On 20/05/2024 9:32 am, ChristRose wrote:
> On 5/19/2024 10:03 AM, Rod E. wrote:
>
> Michael wrote:
>
>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>> asshole!
>

ChristRose.
> “For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become
> the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21, NKJV)
>
> If God did not make Christ "sin" for us, then you have no reconciling
> atonement for your sins, or any means by which to become the
> righteousness of God in Him.

Sheesh! For God's sake, ChristRose!!! It is way beyond a legalistic
theological matter.

He made a perfect, immaculate, clean, holy, and pure sacrifice without
any blemish or spot for our sin. Such an act did not make Him sin! His
Spirit, His Person, Who He is did...not...change! He does not change;
God does not change!

If you argue otherwise you are saying in the Spirit, in spiritual
places, with Robert Religion theology, the Lord Jesus is not God!

I'm surprised that even you can't see that without me having to tell you
that! Forget about your pride, follow the truth; follow God.

And if you still can't get that, God is above the law. That is why He
could be the sacrifice in the first place.

Me having to tell you these things means you know about him, but you
don't really know Him and so you cannot love Him! No wonder me raving on
about how you treat Him is meaningless 'aside from the truth' drivel to
you. It should mean everything to you!

That is what you come to be in the pool: a man who loves God with all.
Unless He washes you, you can never be clean and will always remain in
your sin (mistreatment of Him).

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Robert
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On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
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> On 20/05/2024 9:32 am, ChristRose wrote:
> > On 5/19/2024 10:03 AM, Rod E. wrote:
> >
> > Michael wrote:
> >
> > > Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
> > > asshole!
>
> ChristRose.
> > “For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become
> > the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21, NKJV)
> >
> > If God did not make Christ "sin" for us, then you have no reconciling
> > atonement for your sins, or any means by which to become the
> > righteousness of God in Him.
>
> Sheesh! For God's sake, ChristRose!!! It is way beyond a legalistic
> theological matter.
>
> He made a perfect, immaculate, clean, holy, and pure sacrifice without
> any blemish or spot for our sin. Such an act did not make Him sin! His
> Spirit, His Person, Who He is did...not...change! He does not change;
> God does not change!

Jesus is the Lamb of God, slain for the sins of the world.
All the lambs that were slain in the Old Covenant were all without spot or
blemish, they too were killed and put on the fires.
They too were the substitute for the sins of all Israel in the corporate
sense, and also for the individual when done for the individual and this had
to be done once every year. The Jews know this, those that Believe in Jesus
the Messiah know that as well, at least those that have studied the Word of
God.

The things you think you know are not of the spirit of God, when your mind
contradicts the word of God, and unless you can find it in your heart to
humble yourself and yield to Him you are no different than Tesla/Daniel or
whatever he calls himself. Well, maybe you are a different shade of Grey.

When you argue with scripture, you deny God.

>
>
> If you argue otherwise you are saying in the Spirit, in spiritual
> places, with Robert Religion theology, the Lord Jesus is not God!
>
> I'm surprised that even you can't see that without me having to tell you
> that! Forget about your pride, follow the truth; follow God.
>
> And if you still can't get that, God is above the law. That is why He
> could be the sacrifice in the first place.
>
> Me having to tell you these things means you know about him, but you
> don't really know Him and so you cannot love Him! No wonder me raving on
> about how you treat Him is meaningless 'aside from the truth' drivel to
> you.It should mean everything to you!
>
> That is what you come to be in the pool: a man who loves God with all.
> Unless He washes you, you can never be clean and will always remain in
> your sin (mistreatment of Him).
>
> Michael Christ

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Michael Christ
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From: michaelmclean91210@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 20/05/2024 11:22 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v2e47d$3jijl$4@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 20/05/2024 9:32 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>> On 5/19/2024 10:03 AM, Rod E. wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>>>> asshole!
>>
>> ChristRose.
>>> “For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become
>>> the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21, NKJV)
>>>
>>> If God did not make Christ "sin" for us, then you have no reconciling
>>> atonement for your sins, or any means by which to become the
>>> righteousness of God in Him.
>>
>> Sheesh! For God's sake, ChristRose!!! It is way beyond a legalistic
>> theological matter.
>>
>> He made a perfect, immaculate, clean, holy, and pure sacrifice without
>> any blemish or spot for our sin. Such an act did not make Him sin! His
>> Spirit, His Person, Who He is did...not...change! He does not change;
>> God does not change!

Robert Rambling Religion Rote:
> Jesus is the Lamb of God, slain for the sins of the world.
> All the lambs that were slain in the Old Covenant were all without spot or
> blemish, they too were killed and put on the fires.
> They too were the substitute for the sins of all Israel in the corporate
> sense, and also for the individual when done for the individual and this had
> to be done once every year. The Jews know this, those that Believe in Jesus
> the Messiah know that as well, at least those that have studied the Word of
> God.

You are waffling in order to sound like you are saying something.

The Lord Jesus did not become sin, Asshole!

Michael Christ

>
> The things you think you know are not of the spirit of God, when your mind
> contradicts the word of God, and unless you can find it in your heart to
> humble yourself and yield to Him you are no different than Tesla/Daniel or
> whatever he calls himself. Well, maybe you are a different shade of Grey.
>
> When you argue with scripture, you deny God.
>
>>
>>
>> If you argue otherwise you are saying in the Spirit, in spiritual
>> places, with Robert Religion theology, the Lord Jesus is not God!
>>
>> I'm surprised that even you can't see that without me having to tell you
>> that! Forget about your pride, follow the truth; follow God.
>>
>> And if you still can't get that, God is above the law. That is why He
>> could be the sacrifice in the first place.
>>
>> Me having to tell you these things means you know about him, but you
>> don't really know Him and so you cannot love Him! No wonder me raving on
>> about how you treat Him is meaningless 'aside from the truth' drivel to
>> you.It should mean everything to you!
>>
>> That is what you come to be in the pool: a man who loves God with all.
>> Unless He washes you, you can never be clean and will always remain in
>> your sin (mistreatment of Him).
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Robert
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On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v2e287$3jijl$2@dont-email.me>):

> On 20/05/2024 1:30 am, Robert wrote:
> > On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <v2cg40$399mf$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the work
> > > > of
> > > > my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
> > > >
> > > > Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
> > > > bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully
> > > > man.
> > > > He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such as
> > > > man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult.
> > > > He
> > > > worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He sinned
> > > > not.
> > > >
> > > > When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
> > > > came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
> > > > point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
> > > > Father
> > > > would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then ministered
> > > > to
> > > > and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
> > > >
> > > > At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
> > > > mankind,
> > > > in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father, and
> > > > filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The Apostles
> > > > who
> > > > were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
> > > > taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what
> > > > all
> > > > Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you desire
> > > > to
> > > > against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings that
> > > > God
> > > > has in store for His Children.
> > >
> > > > Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he
> > > > could
> > > > be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was
> > > > seen.
> > > > Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
> > > >
> > > > I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from
> > > > the
> > > > scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
> > > > literally
> > > > be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry
> > > > that
> > > > he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
> > > > light,
> > > > that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and
> > > > even
> > > > greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
> > > > Heavenly
> > > > Father.
> > > >
> > > > So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil
> > > > one,
> > > > stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In
> > > > the
> > > > name above ALL Names Jesus.
> > > >
> > > > Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
> > >
> > > You need to live that yourself.
> > >
> > > You don't know Him.
> > >
> > > All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
> > >
> > > The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
> > > I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
> > > not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
> > > today, and forever. There is only One God.
>
> > Yes, He is God.
>
> End of story.
>
> > God the Son.“But that ye may know that the Son of man hath
> > power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,)
> > Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.” (Mat 9:6, KJV)Who is
> > Jesus.
> >
> > Jesus was conceived, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When
> > as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she
> > was
> > found with child of the Holy Ghost.” (Mat 1:18, KJV)
> >
> > “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
> > thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also
> > that
> > holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
> > (Luk 1:35, KJV)
> >
> > Again you are dramatically without knowledge.
>
> I wouldn't expect anything else from you and your dramatic
> all-encompassing knowledge! :-).
>
> Go and study some "more-yourself" to salvation. :-).
>
> > > Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
> > >
> > > Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
> > > clue what I am saying.
> >
> > I have already written about that, odd, you say I haven’t a clue, yet when
> > you read it your eyes were glazed over with ignorance.
> >
> > Godhead, a word you do not comprehend.
>
> It is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all things...One God, One Lord.
>
> You are a wanker and fake who doesn't know what he is talking about.
>
> Here is the proof...
>
> "Who gave all power to Jesus?"
>
> 🙂. A nonsense humanistic religious fallen man question!
>
> Q: Who gave God the power of God?
>
> A: No one!
>
> "Comprehend," wanker religionist?
>
> Nah, of course not, it didn't come from you!

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed
us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” (Eph 1:3,
KJV)

Above is the Father of Jesus Christ mentioned, who is the “he” mentioned
in the verses that follow.

“And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe,
according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ,
when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the
heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and
dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in
that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him
to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness
of him that filleth all in all.” (Eph 1:19-23, KJV)

I suggest that you do not ignore these words of God,

>
>
> > > Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> > > government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> > > Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> > > Prince of Peace.
>
> Robert bullshit religion wrote:
> > The “everlasting father” was not mentioned in the original Hebrew. It
> > was added on by people with the same mindset as yourself.
> >
> > “(9:5) For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the
> > government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-
> > joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;” (Isa 9:6, JPS)
> >
> > This is a Jewish translation into English.
> >
> > “For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is
> > upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel:
> > for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.” (Isa 9:6,
> > Brenton)
> >
> > This was the original Hebrew translated into Greek by the Jews, hundreds of
> > years before Jesus was Born.
>
> It's bullshit. "The Messenger of great counsel." :-). Yeah, just a great
> teacher! That is just another way of saying, "Jesus is not God."
>
> "Brenton" 1800s original Hebrew translation (re-imagining in sinful man)
> into Greek, not of Moses (or whoever) was false or a "mistake" or a
> "piece of stupid."
>
> Who the hell is Brenton anyway? One of your Buddies? :-).
>
> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> Prince of Peace.
>
> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/yeshayahu-isaiah-chapter-9
>
> > The Lord brought this anomaly to my attention because it just did not fit
> > with the rest of Scripture. He also showed me where to look for the truth of
> > the matter. That you are in previous error here is clearly seen.
>
> You and them do not know the Lord Jesus Christ is God.
>
> But you can go become an original "Brenton" Hebrew if you like! :-).


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On 20/05/2024 11:46 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v2e287$3jijl$2@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 20/05/2024 1:30 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <v2cg40$399mf$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the work
>>>>> of
>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully
>>>>> man.
>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such as
>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult.
>>>>> He
>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He sinned
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
>>>>> Father
>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then ministered
>>>>> to
>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>> mankind,
>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father, and
>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The Apostles
>>>>> who
>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what
>>>>> all
>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you desire
>>>>> to
>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings that
>>>>> God
>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he
>>>>> could
>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was
>>>>> seen.
>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from
>>>>> the
>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>>>> literally
>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry
>>>>> that
>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
>>>>> light,
>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and
>>>>> even
>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>> Father.
>>>>>
>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil
>>>>> one,
>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In
>>>>> the
>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>>
>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>
>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>
>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>
>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
>>>> I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
>>>> not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
>>>> today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>
>>> Yes, He is God.
>>
>> End of story.
>>
>>> God the Son.“But that ye may know that the Son of man hath
>>> power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,)
>>> Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.” (Mat 9:6, KJV)Who is
>>> Jesus.
>>>
>>> Jesus was conceived, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When
>>> as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she
>>> was
>>> found with child of the Holy Ghost.” (Mat 1:18, KJV)
>>>
>>> “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon
>>> thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also
>>> that
>>> holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
>>> (Luk 1:35, KJV)
>>>
>>> Again you are dramatically without knowledge.
>>
>> I wouldn't expect anything else from you and your dramatic
>> all-encompassing knowledge! :-).
>>
>> Go and study some "more-yourself" to salvation. :-).
>>
>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>>>
>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
>>>> clue what I am saying.
>>>
>>> I have already written about that, odd, you say I haven’t a clue, yet when
>>> you read it your eyes were glazed over with ignorance.
>>>
>>> Godhead, a word you do not comprehend.
>>
>> It is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all things...One God, One Lord.
>>
>> You are a wanker and fake who doesn't know what he is talking about.
>>
>> Here is the proof...
>>
>> "Who gave all power to Jesus?"
>>
>> 🙂. A nonsense humanistic religious fallen man question!
>>
>> Q: Who gave God the power of God?
>>
>> A: No one!
>>
>> "Comprehend," wanker religionist?
>>
>> Nah, of course not, it didn't come from you!
>
> “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed
> us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” (Eph 1:3,
> KJV)
>
> Above is the Father of Jesus Christ mentioned, who is the “he” mentioned
> in the verses that follow.
>
> “And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe,
> according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ,
> when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the
> heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and
> dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in
> that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him
> to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness
> of him that filleth all in all.” (Eph 1:19-23, KJV)
>
> I suggest that you do not ignore these words of God,
>
>>
>>
>>>> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
>>>> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
>>>> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
>>>> Prince of Peace.
>>
>> Robert bullshit religion wrote:
>>> The “everlasting father” was not mentioned in the original Hebrew. It
>>> was added on by people with the same mindset as yourself.
>>>
>>> “(9:5) For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the
>>> government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-
>>> joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;” (Isa 9:6, JPS)
>>>
>>> This is a Jewish translation into English.
>>>
>>> “For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is
>>> upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel:
>>> for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.” (Isa 9:6,
>>> Brenton)
>>>
>>> This was the original Hebrew translated into Greek by the Jews, hundreds of
>>> years before Jesus was Born.
>>
>> It's bullshit. "The Messenger of great counsel." :-). Yeah, just a great
>> teacher! That is just another way of saying, "Jesus is not God."
>>
>> "Brenton" 1800s original Hebrew translation (re-imagining in sinful man)
>> into Greek, not of Moses (or whoever) was false or a "mistake" or a
>> "piece of stupid."
>>
>> Who the hell is Brenton anyway? One of your Buddies? :-).
>>
>> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
>> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
>> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
>> Prince of Peace.
>>
>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/yeshayahu-isaiah-chapter-9
>>
>>> The Lord brought this anomaly to my attention because it just did not fit
>>> with the rest of Scripture. He also showed me where to look for the truth of
>>> the matter. That you are in previous error here is clearly seen.
>>
>> You and them do not know the Lord Jesus Christ is God.
>>
>> But you can go become an original "Brenton" Hebrew if you like! :-).
>
> You have been told numerous times that Brenton translated the LXX OT which is
> a Greek translation of the Hebrew priests from Hebrew to Greek
>
>>
>>
>> You stubborn idiot; put the other foot in it too!
>>
>> You don't meditate on the truth in the Lord's personal revelation
>> because you are a fake; you are not in Christ. All you do is soak in
>> your own self-worship with your bible.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
>>>> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>
>> Ain't that the truth!
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>>>> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
>>>> to hear what is being said!
>>
>> Robert Religion wrote:
>>> “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be
>>> made the righteousness of God in him.” (2Co 5:21, KJV)
>>
>> "Who knew no sin." He did not become sin, you bastard!
>>
>> He did not not literally become sin, you piece of shit. He was and is
>> the spotless lamb, a righteous, pure, holy sacrifice, and He will be
>> known as that throughout eternity; He is always the same, yesterday,
>> today, and forever. God.
>>
>> He was made to be sin for us, but He never sinned, was never sin, and
>> God is not a sinner! Jesus is God. You have taken the name of the Lord
>> in vain.
>>
>> That shows you don't know Him; you don't have a fuckin' clue, you
>> ignorant man-made religious asshole!
>>
>> Robert Religion wrote:
>>> No one, who is of Christ is constantly sinning with vile, vulgar language
>>> and
>>> so disrespectful of God and man, as you continuously are.
>>
>> Piss off, you self-righteous humanist; go and be with your moralist
>> Buddha Bubba Bible Combo Boy, Rod. :-). You are going to see how far
>> your "language skills" go towards your salvation, Boys.
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
>>>> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>>
>> Sheesh, ain't that the truth! What a stench a moral fallen man
>> egocentric excellence (the knowledge king) this post is from you!!! Ego
>> and sewerage! And you call me dirty in thine sight! :-).
>>
>> I wouldn't be where you are for all Satan had to offer the Lord, even if
>> was only "temporary" and I could set it down later!
>>
>> Michael Christ


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Robert
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On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v2e97e$3jijl$8@dont-email.me>):

> On 20/05/2024 11:22 am, Robert wrote:
> > On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <v2e47d$3jijl$4@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 20/05/2024 9:32 am, ChristRose wrote:
> > > > On 5/19/2024 10:03 AM, Rod E. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Michael wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
> > > > > asshole!
> > >
> > > ChristRose.
> > > > “For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become
> > > > the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21, NKJV)
> > > >
> > > > If God did not make Christ "sin" for us, then you have no reconciling
> > > > atonement for your sins, or any means by which to become the
> > > > righteousness of God in Him.
> > >
> > > Sheesh! For God's sake, ChristRose!!! It is way beyond a legalistic
> > > theological matter.
> > >
> > > He made a perfect, immaculate, clean, holy, and pure sacrifice without
> > > any blemish or spot for our sin. Such an act did not make Him sin! His
> > > Spirit, His Person, Who He is did...not...change! He does not change;
> > > God does not change!
>
> Robert Rambling Religion Rote:
> > Jesus is the Lamb of God, slain for the sins of the world.
> > All the lambs that were slain in the Old Covenant were all without spot or
> > blemish, they too were killed and put on the fires.
> > They too were the substitute for the sins of all Israel in the corporate
> > sense, and also for the individual when done for the individual and this had
> > to be done once every year. The Jews know this, those that Believe in Jesus
> > the Messiah know that as well, at least those that have studied the Word of
> > God.
>
> You are waffling in order to sound like you are saying something.
>
> The Lord Jesus did not become sin, Asshole!
>
> Michael Christ

Then why did he enter the deep, in hell? There is only one ticket to that
place and it is sin.
Why does scripture teach that it is true and you are a fraud?

>
>
> >
> > The things you think you know are not of the spirit of God, when your mind
> > contradicts the word of God, and unless you can find it in your heart to
> > humble yourself and yield to Him you are no different than Tesla/Daniel or
> > whatever he calls himself. Well, maybe you are a different shade of Grey.
> >
> > When you argue with scripture, you deny God.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you argue otherwise you are saying in the Spirit, in spiritual
> > > places, with Robert Religion theology, the Lord Jesus is not God!
> > >
> > > I'm surprised that even you can't see that without me having to tell you
> > > that! Forget about your pride, follow the truth; follow God.
> > >
> > > And if you still can't get that, God is above the law. That is why He
> > > could be the sacrifice in the first place.
> > >
> > > Me having to tell you these things means you know about him, but you
> > > don't really know Him and so you cannot love Him! No wonder me raving on
> > > about how you treat Him is meaningless 'aside from the truth' drivel to
> > > you.It should mean everything to you!
> > >
> > > That is what you come to be in the pool: a man who loves God with all.
> > > Unless He washes you, you can never be clean and will always remain in
> > > your sin (mistreatment of Him).
> > >
> > > Michael Christ

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On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v2eavo$3jijl$9@dont-email.me>):

> On 20/05/2024 11:46 am, Robert wrote:
> > On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > (in article <v2e287$3jijl$2@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > > On 20/05/2024 1:30 am, Robert wrote:
> > > > On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> > > > (in article <v2cg40$399mf$1@dont-email.me>):
> > > >
> > > > > On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
> > > > > > bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully
> > > > > > man.
> > > > > > He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult.
> > > > > > He
> > > > > > worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
> > > > > > sinned
> > > > > > not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
> > > > > > Father
> > > > > > would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
> > > > > > ministered
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
> > > > > > mankind,
> > > > > > in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
> > > > > > Apostles
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they
> > > > > > too
> > > > > > taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
> > > > > > desire
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > God
> > > > > > has in store for His Children.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was
> > > > > > seen.
> > > > > > Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
> > > > > > literally
> > > > > > be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
> > > > > > light,
> > > > > > that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
> > > > > > Heavenly
> > > > > > Father.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil
> > > > > > one,
> > > > > > stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > name above ALL Names Jesus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to live that yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't know Him.
> > > > >
> > > > > All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
> > > > > I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
> > > > > not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
> > > > > today, and forever. There is only One God.
> > >
> > > > Yes, He is God.
> > >
> > > End of story.
> > >
> > > > God the Son.“But that ye may know that the Son of man hath
> > > > power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,)
> > > > Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.” (Mat 9:6, KJV)Who is
> > > > Jesus.
> > > >
> > > > Jesus was conceived, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
> > > > When
> > > > as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she
> > > > was
> > > > found with child of the Holy Ghost.” (Mat 1:18, KJV)
> > > >
> > > > “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come
> > > > upon
> > > > thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also
> > > > that
> > > > holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
> > > > (Luk 1:35, KJV)
> > > >
> > > > Again you are dramatically without knowledge.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't expect anything else from you and your dramatic
> > > all-encompassing knowledge! :-).
> > >
> > > Go and study some "more-yourself" to salvation. :-).
> > >
> > > > > Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
> > > > >
> > > > > Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
> > > > > clue what I am saying.
> > > >
> > > > I have already written about that, odd, you say I haven’t a clue, yet
> > > > when
> > > > you read it your eyes were glazed over with ignorance.
> > > >
> > > > Godhead, a word you do not comprehend.
> > >
> > > It is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all things...One God, One Lord.
> > >
> > > You are a wanker and fake who doesn't know what he is talking about.
> > >
> > > Here is the proof...
> > >
> > > "Who gave all power to Jesus?"
> > >
> > > 🙂. A nonsense humanistic religious fallen man question!
> > >
> > > Q: Who gave God the power of God?
> > >
> > > A: No one!
> > >
> > > "Comprehend," wanker religionist?
> > >
> > > Nah, of course not, it didn't come from you!
> >
> > “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed
> > us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” (Eph 1:3,
> > KJV)
> >
> > Above is the Father of Jesus Christ mentioned, who is the “he” mentioned
> > in the verses that follow.
> >
> > “And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe,
> > according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ,
> > when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the
> > heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and
> > dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in
> > that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him
> > to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness
> > of him that filleth all in all.” (Eph 1:19-23, KJV)
> >
> > I suggest that you do not ignore these words of God,
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> > > > > government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> > > > > Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> > > > > Prince of Peace.
> > >
> > > Robert bullshit religion wrote:
> > > > The “everlasting father” was not mentioned in the original Hebrew. It
> > > > was added on by people with the same mindset as yourself.
> > > >
> > > > “(9:5) For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the
> > > > government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-
> > > > joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;” (Isa 9:6, JPS)
> > > >
> > > > This is a Jewish translation into English.
> > > >
> > > > “For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government
> > > > is
> > > > upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel:
> > > > for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.” (Isa 9:6,
> > > > Brenton)
> > > >
> > > > This was the original Hebrew translated into Greek by the Jews, hundreds
> > > > of
> > > > years before Jesus was Born.
> > >
> > > It's bullshit. "The Messenger of great counsel." :-). Yeah, just a great
> > > teacher! That is just another way of saying, "Jesus is not God."
> > >
> > > "Brenton" 1800s original Hebrew translation (re-imagining in sinful man)
> > > into Greek, not of Moses (or whoever) was false or a "mistake" or a
> > > "piece of stupid."
> > >
> > > Who the hell is Brenton anyway? One of your Buddies? :-).
> > >
> > > Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
> > > government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
> > > Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
> > > Prince of Peace.
> > >
> > > https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/yeshayahu-isaiah-chapter-9
> > >
> > > > The Lord brought this anomaly to my attention because it just did not fit
> > > > with the rest of Scripture. He also showed me where to look for the truth
> > > > of
> > > > the matter. That you are in previous error here is clearly seen.
> > >
> > > You and them do not know the Lord Jesus Christ is God.
> > >
> > > But you can go become an original "Brenton" Hebrew if you like! :-).
> >
> > You have been told numerous times that Brenton translated the LXX OT which
> > is
> > a Greek translation of the Hebrew priests from Hebrew to Greek
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You stubborn idiot; put the other foot in it too!
> > >
> > > You don't meditate on the truth in the Lord's personal revelation
> > > because you are a fake; you are not in Christ. All you do is soak in
> > > your own self-worship with your bible.
> > >
> > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
> > > > > filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
> > >
> > > Ain't that the truth!
> > >
> > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
> > > > > asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
> > > > > to hear what is being said!
> > >
> > > Robert Religion wrote:
> > > > “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might
> > > > be
> > > > made the righteousness of God in him.” (2Co 5:21, KJV)
> > >
> > > "Who knew no sin." He did not become sin, you bastard!
> > >
> > > He did not not literally become sin, you piece of shit. He was and is
> > > the spotless lamb, a righteous, pure, holy sacrifice, and He will be
> > > known as that throughout eternity; He is always the same, yesterday,
> > > today, and forever. God.
> > >
> > > He was made to be sin for us, but He never sinned, was never sin, and
> > > God is not a sinner! Jesus is God. You have taken the name of the Lord
> > > in vain.
> > >
> > > That shows you don't know Him; you don't have a fuckin' clue, you
> > > ignorant man-made religious asshole!
> > >
> > > Robert Religion wrote:
> > > > No one, who is of Christ is constantly sinning with vile, vulgar language
> > > > and
> > > > so disrespectful of God and man, as you continuously are.
> > >
> > > Piss off, you self-righteous humanist; go and be with your moralist
> > > Buddha Bubba Bible Combo Boy, Rod. :-). You are going to see how far
> > > your "language skills" go towards your salvation, Boys.
> > >
> > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
> > > > > sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
> > >
> > > Sheesh, ain't that the truth! What a stench a moral fallen man
> > > egocentric excellence (the knowledge king) this post is from you!!! Ego
> > > and sewerage! And you call me dirty in thine sight! :-).
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be where you are for all Satan had to offer the Lord, even if
> > > was only "temporary" and I could set it down later!
> > >
> > > Michael Christ
>
> You need to get on your way. And take your Lord "Brenton" Bible with
> you. :-). 'Jesus is not God Judiasm' bible-quoting interpretations are
> for you! :-).


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Michael Christ
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On 20/05/2024 12:34 pm, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v2e97e$3jijl$8@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 20/05/2024 11:22 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <v2e47d$3jijl$4@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 20/05/2024 9:32 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>>>> On 5/19/2024 10:03 AM, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>>>>>> asshole!
>>>>
>>>> ChristRose.
>>>>> “For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become
>>>>> the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21, NKJV)
>>>>>
>>>>> If God did not make Christ "sin" for us, then you have no reconciling
>>>>> atonement for your sins, or any means by which to become the
>>>>> righteousness of God in Him.
>>>>
>>>> Sheesh! For God's sake, ChristRose!!! It is way beyond a legalistic
>>>> theological matter.
>>>>
>>>> He made a perfect, immaculate, clean, holy, and pure sacrifice without
>>>> any blemish or spot for our sin. Such an act did not make Him sin! His
>>>> Spirit, His Person, Who He is did...not...change! He does not change;
>>>> God does not change!
>>
>> Robert Rambling Religion Rote:
>>> Jesus is the Lamb of God, slain for the sins of the world.
>>> All the lambs that were slain in the Old Covenant were all without spot or
>>> blemish, they too were killed and put on the fires.
>>> They too were the substitute for the sins of all Israel in the corporate
>>> sense, and also for the individual when done for the individual and this had
>>> to be done once every year. The Jews know this, those that Believe in Jesus
>>> the Messiah know that as well, at least those that have studied the Word of
>>> God.
>>
>> You are waffling in order to sound like you are saying something.
>>
>> The Lord Jesus did not become sin, Asshole!

Robert's Religion of Hell wrote:
> Then why did he enter the deep, in hell? There is only one ticket to that
> place and it is sin.

You can go to hell, Buddy. You are calling the Lord Jesus Christ a
sinner, you fuckin' asshole fool!

You haven't got a clue. That is where all your years of bible
self-worship has got you!

Nowhere.

Serves you right, you lying stubborn "theology will save me" bastard.
You have had plenty of opportunity over the years and all you have ever
done is "personal context" pissed the truth up against the wall.

Michael Christ

> Why does scripture teach that it is true and you are a fraud?

>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The things you think you know are not of the spirit of God, when your mind
>>> contradicts the word of God, and unless you can find it in your heart to
>>> humble yourself and yield to Him you are no different than Tesla/Daniel or
>>> whatever he calls himself. Well, maybe you are a different shade of Grey.
>>>
>>> When you argue with scripture, you deny God.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you argue otherwise you are saying in the Spirit, in spiritual
>>>> places, with Robert Religion theology, the Lord Jesus is not God!
>>>>
>>>> I'm surprised that even you can't see that without me having to tell you
>>>> that! Forget about your pride, follow the truth; follow God.
>>>>
>>>> And if you still can't get that, God is above the law. That is why He
>>>> could be the sacrifice in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> Me having to tell you these things means you know about him, but you
>>>> don't really know Him and so you cannot love Him! No wonder me raving on
>>>> about how you treat Him is meaningless 'aside from the truth' drivel to
>>>> you.It should mean everything to you!
>>>>
>>>> That is what you come to be in the pool: a man who loves God with all.
>>>> Unless He washes you, you can never be clean and will always remain in
>>>> your sin (mistreatment of Him).
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>
>

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
From: Michael Christ
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On 20/05/2024 12:40 pm, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v2eavo$3jijl$9@dont-email.me>):
>
>> On 20/05/2024 11:46 am, Robert wrote:
>>> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>> (in article <v2e287$3jijl$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 20/05/2024 1:30 am, Robert wrote:
>>>>> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
>>>>> (in article <v2cg40$399mf$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
>>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully
>>>>>>> man.
>>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult.
>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
>>>>>>> sinned
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
>>>>>>> Father
>>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>>> ministered
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>>>> mankind,
>>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>>> Apostles
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> God
>>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was
>>>>>>> seen.
>>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
>>>>>>> light,
>>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil
>>>>>>> one,
>>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
>>>>>> I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
>>>>>> not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
>>>>>> today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, He is God.
>>>>
>>>> End of story.
>>>>
>>>>> God the Son.“But that ye may know that the Son of man hath
>>>>> power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,)
>>>>> Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.” (Mat 9:6, KJV)Who is
>>>>> Jesus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus was conceived, “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
>>>>> When
>>>>> as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she
>>>>> was
>>>>> found with child of the Holy Ghost.” (Mat 1:18, KJV)
>>>>>
>>>>> “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come
>>>>> upon
>>>>> thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also
>>>>> that
>>>>> holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”
>>>>> (Luk 1:35, KJV)
>>>>>
>>>>> Again you are dramatically without knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't expect anything else from you and your dramatic
>>>> all-encompassing knowledge! :-).
>>>>
>>>> Go and study some "more-yourself" to salvation. :-).
>>>>
>>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not have a
>>>>>> clue what I am saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have already written about that, odd, you say I haven’t a clue, yet
>>>>> when
>>>>> you read it your eyes were glazed over with ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Godhead, a word you do not comprehend.
>>>>
>>>> It is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He is all things...One God, One Lord.
>>>>
>>>> You are a wanker and fake who doesn't know what he is talking about.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the proof...
>>>>
>>>> "Who gave all power to Jesus?"
>>>>
>>>> 🙂. A nonsense humanistic religious fallen man question!
>>>>
>>>> Q: Who gave God the power of God?
>>>>
>>>> A: No one!
>>>>
>>>> "Comprehend," wanker religionist?
>>>>
>>>> Nah, of course not, it didn't come from you!
>>>
>>> “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed
>>> us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:” (Eph 1:3,
>>> KJV)
>>>
>>> Above is the Father of Jesus Christ mentioned, who is the “he” mentioned
>>> in the verses that follow.
>>>
>>> “And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe,
>>> according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ,
>>> when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the
>>> heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and
>>> dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in
>>> that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him
>>> to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness
>>> of him that filleth all in all.” (Eph 1:19-23, KJV)
>>>
>>> I suggest that you do not ignore these words of God,
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
>>>>>> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
>>>>>> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
>>>>>> Prince of Peace.
>>>>
>>>> Robert bullshit religion wrote:
>>>>> The “everlasting father” was not mentioned in the original Hebrew. It
>>>>> was added on by people with the same mindset as yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> “(9:5) For a child is born unto us, a son is given unto us; and the
>>>>> government is upon his shoulder; and his name is called Pele-
>>>>> joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom;” (Isa 9:6, JPS)
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a Jewish translation into English.
>>>>>
>>>>> “For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government
>>>>> is
>>>>> upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel:
>>>>> for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.” (Isa 9:6,
>>>>> Brenton)
>>>>>
>>>>> This was the original Hebrew translated into Greek by the Jews, hundreds
>>>>> of
>>>>> years before Jesus was Born.
>>>>
>>>> It's bullshit. "The Messenger of great counsel." :-). Yeah, just a great
>>>> teacher! That is just another way of saying, "Jesus is not God."
>>>>
>>>> "Brenton" 1800s original Hebrew translation (re-imagining in sinful man)
>>>> into Greek, not of Moses (or whoever) was false or a "mistake" or a
>>>> "piece of stupid."
>>>>
>>>> Who the hell is Brenton anyway? One of your Buddies? :-).
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
>>>> government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
>>>> Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
>>>> Prince of Peace.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/yeshayahu-isaiah-chapter-9
>>>>
>>>>> The Lord brought this anomaly to my attention because it just did not fit
>>>>> with the rest of Scripture. He also showed me where to look for the truth
>>>>> of
>>>>> the matter. That you are in previous error here is clearly seen.
>>>>
>>>> You and them do not know the Lord Jesus Christ is God.
>>>>
>>>> But you can go become an original "Brenton" Hebrew if you like! :-).
>>>
>>> You have been told numerous times that Brenton translated the LXX OT which
>>> is
>>> a Greek translation of the Hebrew priests from Hebrew to Greek
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You stubborn idiot; put the other foot in it too!
>>>>
>>>> You don't meditate on the truth in the Lord's personal revelation
>>>> because you are a fake; you are not in Christ. All you do is soak in
>>>> your own self-worship with your bible.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
>>>>>> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>
>>>> Ain't that the truth!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>>>>>> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too deaf
>>>>>> to hear what is being said!
>>>>
>>>> Robert Religion wrote:
>>>>> “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might
>>>>> be
>>>>> made the righteousness of God in him.” (2Co 5:21, KJV)
>>>>
>>>> "Who knew no sin." He did not become sin, you bastard!
>>>>
>>>> He did not not literally become sin, you piece of shit. He was and is
>>>> the spotless lamb, a righteous, pure, holy sacrifice, and He will be
>>>> known as that throughout eternity; He is always the same, yesterday,
>>>> today, and forever. God.
>>>>
>>>> He was made to be sin for us, but He never sinned, was never sin, and
>>>> God is not a sinner! Jesus is God. You have taken the name of the Lord
>>>> in vain.
>>>>
>>>> That shows you don't know Him; you don't have a fuckin' clue, you
>>>> ignorant man-made religious asshole!
>>>>
>>>> Robert Religion wrote:
>>>>> No one, who is of Christ is constantly sinning with vile, vulgar language
>>>>> and
>>>>> so disrespectful of God and man, as you continuously are.
>>>>
>>>> Piss off, you self-righteous humanist; go and be with your moralist
>>>> Buddha Bubba Bible Combo Boy, Rod. :-). You are going to see how far
>>>> your "language skills" go towards your salvation, Boys.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
>>>>>> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>>>>
>>>> Sheesh, ain't that the truth! What a stench a moral fallen man
>>>> egocentric excellence (the knowledge king) this post is from you!!! Ego
>>>> and sewerage! And you call me dirty in thine sight! :-).
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't be where you are for all Satan had to offer the Lord, even if
>>>> was only "temporary" and I could set it down later!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>
>> You need to get on your way. And take your Lord "Brenton" Bible with
>> you. :-). 'Jesus is not God Judiasm' bible-quoting interpretations are
>> for you! :-).


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>> the work of
>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>>
>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at
>>>> the
>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>> fully man.
>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>>> such as
>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>> adult. He
>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
>>>> sinned
>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>> after he
>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at
>>>> that
>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His
>>>> Father
>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>> ministered to
>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>
>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>> mankind,
>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>> Father, and
>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>> Apostles who
>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>> they too
>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of
>>>> what all
>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
>>>> desire to
>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings
>>>> that God
>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>
>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if
>>>> he could
>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>> Was seen.
>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>
>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times
>>>> from the
>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>>> literally
>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>> ministry that
>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>>> the light,
>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did,
>>>> and even
>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>> Heavenly
>>>> Father.
>>>>
>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>> evil one,
>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>> Army. In the
>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>
>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>
>>> You don't know Him.
>>>
>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>
>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't.
>>> So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord
>>> Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He
>>> is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>
>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>> bodily.
>>>
>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>
>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and
>>> the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
>>> called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father,
>>> The Prince of Peace.
>>>
>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your own
>>> filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>
>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!" You
>>> asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and too
>>> deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>
>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>> "perfume."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>     Hypocrite.
>
> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>
> Nah, of course not.
>
> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?

Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
created body just for Him(GOD the Father).

WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.

This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?

>
> Of course, you have nothing to say about those lies. Instead, what do I
> get? Just more of the same...
>
> "You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>
> On your way, Mr Superlative Non-Hypocrite.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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Rod E. wrote:
> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>> the work of
>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>> at the
>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>> fully man.
>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>>>> such as
>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>> adult. He
>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
>>>>> sinned
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>> after he
>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>> at that
>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>> His Father
>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>> ministered to
>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>> mankind,
>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>> Father, and
>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>> they too
>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of
>>>>> what all
>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
>>>>> desire to
>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if
>>>>> he could
>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times
>>>>> from the
>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>>>> literally
>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>> ministry that
>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>>>> the light,
>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did,
>>>>> and even
>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>> Father.
>>>>>
>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>> evil one,
>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>
>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>
>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>
>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't.
>>>> So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord
>>>> Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He
>>>> is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>
>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>> bodily.
>>>>
>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and
>>>> the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
>>>> called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>
>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and
>>>> too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>
>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>> "perfume."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>     Hypocrite.
>>
>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>
>> Nah, of course not.
>>
>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>
>   Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>   was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>
>   WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>   the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>   Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>
>    This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Of course, you have nothing to say about those lies. Instead, what do
>> I get? Just more of the same...
>>
>> "You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
>> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>>
>> On your way, Mr Superlative Non-Hypocrite.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>
who's your dentist

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 5/20/2024 1:25 PM, % wrote:
> Rod E. wrote:
>> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>>> the work of
>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the
>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>>> fully man.
>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>>> adult. He
>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet
>>>>>> He sinned
>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>>> after he
>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>>> at that
>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>>> His Father
>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>> ministered to
>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>>> mankind,
>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>>> Father, and
>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>>> they too
>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples
>>>>>> of what all
>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as
>>>>>> you desire to
>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father
>>>>>> if he could
>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous
>>>>>> times from the
>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we
>>>>>> can literally
>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>>> ministry that
>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>>>>> the light,
>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus
>>>>>> did, and even
>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>>> evil one,
>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>
>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you
>>>>> don't. So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The
>>>>> Lord Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is
>>>>> God; He is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>>> bodily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
>>>>> and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
>>>>> be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and
>>>>> too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>>
>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>>> "perfume."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hypocrite.
>>>
>>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>>
>>> Nah, of course not.
>>>
>>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>>
>>    Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>>    was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
>> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>>
>>    WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>>    the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>>    Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>>
>>     This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Of course, you have nothing to say about those lies. Instead, what do
>>> I get? Just more of the same...
>>>
>>> "You sinner religionists are all too high on your own religion-snorting
>>> sewerage to smell anything other than your own "perfume."
>>>
>>> On your way, Mr Superlative Non-Hypocrite.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>
> who's your dentist

Very funny!

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 21/05/2024 4:22 am, Rod E. wrote:
> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>> the work of
>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>> at the
>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>> fully man.
>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>>>> such as
>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>> adult. He
>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He
>>>>> sinned
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>> after he
>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>> at that
>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>> His Father
>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>> ministered to
>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>> mankind,
>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>> Father, and
>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>> they too
>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of
>>>>> what all
>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you
>>>>> desire to
>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if
>>>>> he could
>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times
>>>>> from the
>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>>>> literally
>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>> ministry that
>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>>>> the light,
>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did,
>>>>> and even
>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>> Father.
>>>>>
>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>> evil one,
>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>
>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>
>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>
>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't.
>>>> So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord
>>>> Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He
>>>> is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>
>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>> bodily.
>>>>
>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>
>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and
>>>> the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be
>>>> called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>
>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and
>>>> too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>
>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>> "perfume."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>     Hypocrite.
>>
>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>
>> Nah, of course not.
>>
>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?

Rodders Rote:
>   Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>   was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>
>   WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>   the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>   Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>
>    This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?

:-). Thank you Lord! :-).

The Holy Spirit inhabiting the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed God the
Father!!!

Amen.

But you'll have a little trouble with the bullshit artist bible giant
Robert Religion with that, Buddy, unless he has suddenly become a
swinging voter or can find his own context! :-).

He'll probably stay in the shadows at this point, though, because it
does not compute to him in his superior brain. How coulds sa Father bes
His own Son??? :-).

Do you see the second mention in my signature? Rambo Robbo Religion has
opposed that every inch of The Way.

As I understand it, my language seems to be a bit abrasive to my
revilers. :-).

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

===>>> Jesus is the everlasting Father <<<=== , Jesus is God, Jesus is
the Lord. John 10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the
Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't
see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 5/20/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 21/05/2024 4:22 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>>> the work of
>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the
>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>>> fully man.
>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>>> adult. He
>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet
>>>>>> He sinned
>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>>> after he
>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>>> at that
>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>>> His Father
>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>> ministered to
>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>>> mankind,
>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>>> Father, and
>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>>> they too
>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples
>>>>>> of what all
>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as
>>>>>> you desire to
>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father
>>>>>> if he could
>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous
>>>>>> times from the
>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we
>>>>>> can literally
>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>>> ministry that
>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>>>>> the light,
>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus
>>>>>> did, and even
>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>>> evil one,
>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>
>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you
>>>>> don't. So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The
>>>>> Lord Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is
>>>>> God; He is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>>> bodily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
>>>>> and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
>>>>> be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and
>>>>> too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>>
>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>>> "perfume."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hypocrite.
>>>
>>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>>
>>> Nah, of course not.
>>>
>>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>
> Rodders Rote:
>>    Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>>    was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
>> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>>
>>    WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>>    the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>>    Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>>
>>     This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?
>
> :-). Thank you Lord! :-).
>
> The Holy Spirit inhabiting the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed God the
> Father!!!
>
> Amen.
>
> But you'll have a little trouble with the bullshit artist bible giant
> Robert Religion with that, Buddy, unless he has suddenly become a
> swinging voter or can find his own context! :-).
>
> He'll probably stay in the shadows at this point, though, because it
> does not compute to him in his superior brain. How coulds sa Father bes
> His own Son??? :-).
>
> Do you see the second mention in my signature? Rambo Robbo Religion has
> opposed that every inch of The Way.
>
> As I understand it, my language seems to be a bit abrasive to my
> revilers. :-).
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>

This misunderstanding is my fault. I should have explained my belief
years ago. My apologies to you.

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Rod E. wrote:
> On 5/20/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 21/05/2024 4:22 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>>>> the work of
>>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the
>>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>>>> fully man.
>>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all
>>>>>>> ways such as
>>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>>>> adult. He
>>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet
>>>>>>> He sinned
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>>>> after he
>>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>>>> at that
>>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>>>> His Father
>>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>>> ministered to
>>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for
>>>>>>> all mankind,
>>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>>>> Father, and
>>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>>>> they too
>>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples
>>>>>>> of what all
>>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as
>>>>>>> you desire to
>>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father
>>>>>>> if he could
>>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous
>>>>>>> times from the
>>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we
>>>>>>> can literally
>>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>>>> ministry that
>>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is
>>>>>>> in the light,
>>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus
>>>>>>> did, and even
>>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before
>>>>>>> the Heavenly
>>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>>>> evil one,
>>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you
>>>>>> don't. So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The
>>>>>> Lord Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is
>>>>>> God; He is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>>>> bodily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
>>>>>> and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
>>>>>> be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind,
>>>>>> and too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>>>> "perfume."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hypocrite.
>>>>
>>>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>>>
>>>> Nah, of course not.
>>>>
>>>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>>
>> Rodders Rote:
>>>    Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>>>    was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
>>> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>>>
>>>    WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>>>    the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>>>    Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>>>
>>>     This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?
>>
>> :-). Thank you Lord! :-).
>>
>> The Holy Spirit inhabiting the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed God the
>> Father!!!
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>> But you'll have a little trouble with the bullshit artist bible giant
>> Robert Religion with that, Buddy, unless he has suddenly become a
>> swinging voter or can find his own context! :-).
>>
>> He'll probably stay in the shadows at this point, though, because it
>> does not compute to him in his superior brain. How coulds sa Father
>> bes His own Son??? :-).
>>
>> Do you see the second mention in my signature? Rambo Robbo Religion
>> has opposed that every inch of The Way.
>>
>> As I understand it, my language seems to be a bit abrasive to my
>> revilers. :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>
>   This misunderstanding is my fault. I should have explained my belief
> years ago. My apologies to you.

here you go go ahead and nip on my bud

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 21/05/2024 11:04 am, Rod E. wrote:
> On 5/20/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 21/05/2024 4:22 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>>>> the work of
>>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the
>>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>>>> fully man.
>>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all
>>>>>>> ways such as
>>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>>>> adult. He
>>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet
>>>>>>> He sinned
>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>>>> after he
>>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>>>> at that
>>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>>>> His Father
>>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>>> ministered to
>>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for
>>>>>>> all mankind,
>>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>>>> Father, and
>>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>>>> they too
>>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples
>>>>>>> of what all
>>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as
>>>>>>> you desire to
>>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father
>>>>>>> if he could
>>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous
>>>>>>> times from the
>>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we
>>>>>>> can literally
>>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>>>> ministry that
>>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is
>>>>>>> in the light,
>>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus
>>>>>>> did, and even
>>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before
>>>>>>> the Heavenly
>>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>>>> evil one,
>>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>>
>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you
>>>>>> don't. So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The
>>>>>> Lord Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is
>>>>>> God; He is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>>>> bodily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
>>>>>> and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
>>>>>> be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind,
>>>>>> and too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>>>> "perfume."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hypocrite.
>>>>
>>>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>>>
>>>> Nah, of course not.
>>>>
>>>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>>
>> Rodders Rote:
>>>    Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>>>    was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
>>> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>>>
>>>    WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>>>    the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>>>    Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>>>
>>>     This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?

Michael Christ wrote:
>> :-). Thank you Lord! :-).
>>
>> The Holy Spirit inhabiting the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed God the
>> Father!!!
>>
>> Amen.
>>
>> But you'll have a little trouble with the bullshit artist bible giant
>> Robert Religion with that, Buddy, unless he has suddenly become a
>> swinging voter or can find his own context! :-).
>>
>> He'll probably stay in the shadows at this point, though, because it
>> does not compute to him in his superior brain. How coulds sa Father
>> bes His own Son??? :-).
>>
>> Do you see the second mention in my signature? Rambo Robbo Religion
>> has opposed that every inch of The Way.
>>
>> As I understand it, my language seems to be a bit abrasive to my
>> revilers. :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>
>   This misunderstanding is my fault. I should have explained my belief
> years ago. My apologies to you.

I am not deserving or worthy of an apology (only the Lord is deserving
and worthy of that), but there you are! The Rod E that has flavour,
salt, that I have seen before.


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Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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Michael Christ <michaelmclean91210@outlook.com> on Sun, 19 May 2024
19:17:52 +1000 typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>
>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil one,
>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In the
>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>
>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>
>You need to live that yourself.
>
>You don't know Him.
>
>All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>
>The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
>I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
>not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
>today, and forever. There is only One God.

But for Robert, anything he doesn't like is just Traditions of
Men. He's got a book, and he has no need for anyone else to "open the
writings to him." Jesus is so lucky to have him come along now and
explain what the Apostles and the Church got wrong.

That he cannot describe what the Apostles believed and taught is
not his problem. He knows that's all just traditions of men.
--
pyotr
After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
You in your way, and I in His."

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 5/20/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 21/05/2024 4:22 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing
>>>>>> the work of
>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the
>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be
>>>>>> fully man.
>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways
>>>>>> such as
>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature
>>>>>> adult. He
>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet
>>>>>> He sinned
>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>>> after he
>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was
>>>>>> at that
>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>>> His Father
>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>> ministered to
>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all
>>>>>> mankind,
>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>>> Father, and
>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>>> they too
>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples
>>>>>> of what all
>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as
>>>>>> you desire to
>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father
>>>>>> if he could
>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He
>>>>>> Was seen.
>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous
>>>>>> times from the
>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we
>>>>>> can literally
>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>>> ministry that
>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in
>>>>>> the light,
>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus
>>>>>> did, and even
>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the
>>>>>> Heavenly
>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the
>>>>>> evil one,
>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>
>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you
>>>>> don't. So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The
>>>>> Lord Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He is
>>>>> God; He is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>>> bodily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
>>>>> and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
>>>>> be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind, and
>>>>> too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>>
>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>>> "perfume."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hypocrite.
>>>
>>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>>
>>> Nah, of course not.
>>>
>>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>
> Rodders Rote:
>>    Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>>    was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
>> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>>
>>    WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>>    the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>>    Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>>
>>     This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?
>
> :-). Thank you Lord! :-).
>
> The Holy Spirit inhabiting the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed God the
> Father!!!
>
> Amen.
>
> But you'll have a little trouble with the bullshit artist bible giant
> Robert Religion with that, Buddy, unless he has suddenly become a
> swinging voter or can find his own context! :-).

Do you remember Pastor Steve Winter? Winter believe likewise
and was a Jesus only Pastor.

A lot of trouble comes from people not understanding what Spirit
is. Yes, the Father and the Son are ONE in mind and Spirit.

It took a while for me to accept and it might take time for others to
understand. It isn't a mystery, The Father is in all that are born
again. It's why we can laugh and smile and no longer fear death.

>
> He'll probably stay in the shadows at this point, though, because it
> does not compute to him in his superior brain. How coulds sa Father bes
> His own Son??? :-).
>
> Do you see the second mention in my signature? Rambo Robbo Religion has
> opposed that every inch of The Way.
>
> As I understand it, my language seems to be a bit abrasive to my
> revilers. :-).
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>

Subject: Re: You need to be nipped in the bud, Buddy.
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On 5/20/2024 9:13 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 21/05/2024 11:04 am, Rod E. wrote:
>> On 5/20/2024 3:59 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 21/05/2024 4:22 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>> On 5/19/2024 5:39 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 20/05/2024 1:03 am, Rod E. wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/19/2024 4:17 AM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/05/2024 2:42 pm, Robert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow
>>>>>>>> dissing the work of
>>>>>>>> my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the
>>>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who
>>>>>>>> was at the
>>>>>>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to
>>>>>>>> be fully man.
>>>>>>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all
>>>>>>>> ways such as
>>>>>>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a
>>>>>>>> mature adult. He
>>>>>>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet
>>>>>>>> He sinned
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance,
>>>>>>>> after he
>>>>>>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It
>>>>>>>> was at that
>>>>>>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry
>>>>>>>> His Father
>>>>>>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then
>>>>>>>> ministered to
>>>>>>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for
>>>>>>>> all mankind,
>>>>>>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the
>>>>>>>> Father, and
>>>>>>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The
>>>>>>>> Apostles who
>>>>>>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so
>>>>>>>> they too
>>>>>>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples
>>>>>>>> of what all
>>>>>>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as
>>>>>>>> you desire to
>>>>>>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the
>>>>>>>> blessings that God
>>>>>>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father
>>>>>>>> if he could
>>>>>>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And
>>>>>>>> He Was seen.
>>>>>>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous
>>>>>>>> times from the
>>>>>>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we
>>>>>>>> can literally
>>>>>>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any
>>>>>>>> ministry that
>>>>>>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is
>>>>>>>> in the light,
>>>>>>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus
>>>>>>>> did, and even
>>>>>>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before
>>>>>>>> the Heavenly
>>>>>>>> Father.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of
>>>>>>>> the evil one,
>>>>>>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His
>>>>>>>> Army. In the
>>>>>>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> You need to live that yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't know Him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert
>>>>>>> Religion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you
>>>>>>> don't. So, I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit.
>>>>>>> The Lord Jesus is not a created being. He was not born of God; He
>>>>>>> is God; He is yesterday, today, and forever. There is only One God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead
>>>>>>> bodily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He...is...all...things...but you do not
>>>>>>> have a clue what I am saying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isaiah 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
>>>>>>> and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall
>>>>>>> be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting
>>>>>>> Father, The Prince of Peace.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the reason you do not have a clue is because you rely on your
>>>>>>> own filthy humanistic fucked up revelation (repulsive).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lastly, the extra horrendous bit: my Lord did not "become sin!!!"
>>>>>>> You asshole! And you are too stubborn, too ignorant, too blind,
>>>>>>> and too deaf to hear what is being said!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You sinner religionists are all too high on your own
>>>>>>> religion-snorting sewerage to smell anything other than your own
>>>>>>> "perfume."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Christ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hypocrite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you have a question, Buddha Humanism Boy?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, of course not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did your Jesus become sin also? Is your Jesus a created being also?
>>>
>>> Rodders Rote:
>>>>    Lets see if I can make this clear to prevent confusion. The WORD
>>>>    was His name, was born into the body of Jesus. Jesus body was a
>>>> created body just for Him(GOD the Father).
>>>>
>>>>    WE can clear up all this angst and confusion by simply sharing
>>>>    the understanding above. The body of Jesus was created but the
>>>>    Spirit inhabiting that body was GOD the Father.
>>>>
>>>>     This is what Robert understands and what I understand. Questions?
>
> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> :-). Thank you Lord! :-).
>>>
>>> The Holy Spirit inhabiting the Lord Jesus Christ was indeed God the
>>> Father!!!
>>>
>>> Amen.
>>>
>>> But you'll have a little trouble with the bullshit artist bible giant
>>> Robert Religion with that, Buddy, unless he has suddenly become a
>>> swinging voter or can find his own context! :-).
>>>
>>> He'll probably stay in the shadows at this point, though, because it
>>> does not compute to him in his superior brain. How coulds sa Father
>>> bes His own Son??? :-).
>>>
>>> Do you see the second mention in my signature? Rambo Robbo Religion
>>> has opposed that every inch of The Way.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, my language seems to be a bit abrasive to my
>>> revilers. :-).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>
>>    This misunderstanding is my fault. I should have explained my
>> belief years ago. My apologies to you.
>
> I am not deserving or worthy of an apology (only the Lord is deserving
> and worthy of that), but there you are! The Rod E that has flavour,
> salt, that I have seen before.
>
> As long as we are sitting in the cafe having a coffee (cappuccino for
> me) in the presence of truth, through God's grace and power alone, there
> is no wrong, no sin, no condemnation, for in the light there is no
> darkness at all.
>
> By the way, I was so impressed by the word you spoke, I just had to make
> a new post. Not-preferred? I hope not.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>


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On 23/05/2024 1:45 am, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Michael Christ <michaelmclean91210@outlook.com> on Sun, 19 May 2024
> 19:17:52 +1000 typed in alt.christnet.christianlife the following:
>>
>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil one,
>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In the
>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>
>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>>
>> You need to live that yourself.
>>
>> You don't know Him.
>>
>> All you do is worship yourself with your bible-info, Robert Religion.
>>
>> The Lord Jesus is God. I know what you are up to, even if you don't. So,
>> I address that deluded humanistic religious spirit. The Lord Jesus is
>> not a created being. He was not born of God; He is God; He is yesterday,
>> today, and forever. There is only One God.
>
> But for Robert, anything he doesn't like is just Traditions of
> Men. He's got a book, and he has no need for anyone else to "open the
> writings to him." Jesus is so lucky to have him come along now and
> explain what the Apostles and the Church got wrong.
>
> That he cannot describe what the Apostles believed and taught is
> not his problem. He knows that's all just traditions of men.

Well, you are right about that, Robert Religion is lost, smack dab in
the middle of the traditions of men, and so, stuck in the self-righteous
cultural moral standards of man.

The Lord tried to get him to see himself, but he outright refused.

So, it serves him right. What a man sows, he reaps.

Here is the thing: it is not that the Lord reveals what you are to you;
it is the Lord revealing Himself to you and you seeing what you are in
His light (e.g., Job).

Well, Robert Religion didn't want to see what he is, so in the process,
he doesn't get to see the Lord, AKA, too stuck in his traditions, his ways.

The same with ChristRose the Whore; the Lord wanted to do something with
him too, but he also vehemently and stubbornly refused. So, he must go
on, for instance, thinking sin against God (whoredom) is just a
religious "norm" in continuity.

Disgusting!!!

They both missed their visitation, like the Pharisees did back then,
preferring their own traditions and ways over the Lord.

What would you do if the Lord presented Himself to you in a way that was
totally contrary to the life you know? What if He went all "Exodus" on you?

Would you, Pro_3:5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not
unto thine own understanding.

Or would you demand He kneel before your understanding and thinking? The
latter is a doozy, and many stumble at that.

Michael Christ

> --
> pyotr
> After the war two Army Chaplains were mustering out. The one said to
> the other "Chaplain, it has been a real pleasure serving God with you.
> You in your way, and I in His."

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."


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