On 20/05/2024 9:52 am, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, ChristRose wrote
> (in article<4fvk4jdjmg0sjsrj1ek3erqk7bo0ai1499@christrose.news>):
>
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>> On Sat, 18 May 2024 21:42:29 -0700,
>> Article:<0001HW.2BF9BAB5002F496E30F81238F@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Robert wrote:
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>>
>>>
>>> Just in case anyone incorrectly assumes that I am somehow dissing the work
>>> of my Savior, Jesus the Messiah, nothing could be further from the truth.
>>>
>>> Jesus, the First begotten Son of God came from heaven, He who was at the
>>> bosom of His Father, after he had set aside his Glory so as to be fully man.
>>> He was born of God. The first born of many. He grew up in all ways such as
>>> man, and he experienced the growth of man from a baby to a mature adult. He
>>> worked for a living, and was tested in all ways such as man, yet He sinned
>>> not.
>>
>> Robert, if your goal here is to clarify
>> what it is you believe about Christ, one
>> area that you might want to mention more
>> about, is what you believe about
>> Christ's deity, before He became a man.

Robert Religion wrote:
> It is too bad that you cannot read with clarity my second paragraph.
>
> I also told you in my last reply that this thread was written with the two
> prior thread I posted regarding who Jesus is, as some would try and make to
> seem that I am attempting to downplay who Jesus is. And I am not. But I am
> showing indirectly that we can be like Him if we were to follow the Word of
> God without the influence of traditional religious mindsets.

Smell the waffle religious mindset.

"If we were" to save ourselves. :-).

He doesn't see himself and has a veil over his eyes.

He chose that, though.

Michael Christ

>>
>>
>> I read in another article you wrote
>> years ago, that you believe He was the
>> Jehovah God of the Old Testament before
>> He became a man, which would support the
>> understanding that you are not denying
>> that He is and has always been God, and
>> that His divine nature was not created
>> by someone else at some point in time.
>>
>> I think what may be confusing some like
>> Michael, is that you are emphasizing the
>> fact that Christ became fully man at a
>> point in time, without directly stating
>> that you believe He has always been
>> fully God. As man, his human body was
>> brought into existence at a point in
>> time in history. However, as God, He was
>> not created, nor did He come into
>> existence as God at a point in time. He
>> was in the beginning with God, and in
>> the beginning, He was God (John 1:1). So
>> His God-nature was not created by
>> someone else at some point in time.
>>
>>> When He was of full age, after His water baptism for repentance, after he
>>> came out of the water, He was baptized by the Holy Spirit, It was at that
>>> point he was empowered by His Heavenly Father to do the ministry His Father
>>> would have him do. Full of power and the wisdom of God, he then ministered
>>> to
>>> and healed ALL who came to him for healing.
>>>
>>> At the end of His ministry he then died, having become sin for all mankind,
>>> in order that all who seek him may be forgiven, be born of the Father, and
>>> filled with the Holy Spirit that we might live has He lived. The Apostles
>>> who
>>> were infilled with the Holy Spirit were examples or that, and so they too
>>> taught as the Father gave them to speak. They too being examples of what all
>>> Borb Again Believers can be who walk by faith. Argue as much as you desire
>>> to
>>> against what the word teaches and you will lose out of the blessings that
>>> God
>>> has in store for His Children.
>>>
>>> Did Jesus miss his former Glory? YES, and so he asked His Father if he could
>>> be seen in his former Glory before a few of his disciples. And He Was seen.
>>> Later on Saul also saw Jesus in full Glory on the road to Damascus.
>>>
>>> I saw all of these things which has been pointed out numerous times from the
>>> scripture, here. So that you could so that you can know that we can
>>> literally
>>> be like Jesus. According the the gifts given us as well as any ministry that
>>> he has for us to do. So that when we walk in the light as He is in the
>>> light,
>>> that we also can do the works of Our Heavenly Father, as Jesus did, and even
>>> greater works than he did, as he now is our high priest before the Heavenly
>>> Father.
>>>
>>> So drop the shackles of religion, break free from the lies of the evil one,
>>> stay true to God the Father, and be all that you can be, in His Army. In the
>>> name above ALL Names Jesus.
>>>
>>> Set aside the traditions of men and Follow Jesus, the Way!
>
>

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God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."