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Subject: Billionaires Say There'll Be A CIVIL WAR If They Don't Get Trump's Big Tax Cut
From: The Corp
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Billionaire investor Ray Dalio has raised concerns about the future of the
United States, saying the current political climate has created a one-in-
three chance for �civil war.�

In an interview with The Financial Times this week, Mr Dalio described how
the polarization of American politics has contributed to an extremely
�turbulent� time in history.

�We are now on the brink,� Mr Dalio told the news outlet, adding that he
sees a 35 to 40 percent probability of a second civil war.

He clarified that the �civil war� he sees is not one where people �grab
guns and start shooting� but one where people stop seeing the middle ground
in politics. But he imagines, �People move to different states that are
more aligned with what they want and they don�t follow the decisions of
federal authorities of the opposite political persuasion,� Mr Dalio said.

Studies have shown that Americans are growing more politically polarized
now than ever before. A Pew Research Poll found that only 32 percent of
Americans have a roughly equal number of conservative and liberal positions
� compared to 49 percent in 2004.

Contentious election cycles are becoming more common, which contributes to
the growing rift between both political parties.

Social media has made it easy for like-minded extremists to connect and
support each other which emboldens people to take radical action. Like
those who organized protests and eventually stormed the Capitol on January
6, 2021.

It was ultimately Donald Trump�s false claims of widespread election fraud
in the 2020 election that led to the extreme and violent action that day.
But his refusal to call off his supporters and continue claiming the
election was �stolen� from him has justified their actions that day.

Even now, as more Republicans echo his claims and refuse to believe the
2020 election was done fairly, it has inspired his supporters to continue
backing him and ignore any criticisms from the other side of the aisle.

Mr Dalio, who founded Bridgewater Associates, said the upcoming 2024
election will be a test of democracy.

�Will there be an acceptance of the rules and an ability to work well under
those rules?� he asked.

�Trump will follow more rightist, nationalistic, isolationist,
protectionist, non-regulatory policies � and more aggressive policies to
fight enemies internally and externally, including political enemies.
Biden, and even more so the Democratic party without Biden, will be more
the opposite, though they too will play political hardball.�

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end of the Second World War, and across the world, pluralism, reason, a
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Subject: Re: Billionaires Say There'll Be A CIVIL WAR If They Don't Get Trump's Big Tax Cut
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In article <v2aqpr$2t982$1@dont-email.me>,
The Corp <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Billionaire investor Ray Dalio has raised concerns about the future of the
> United States, saying the current political climate has created a one-in-
> three chance for civil war.
>
> In an interview with The Financial Times this week, Mr Dalio described how
> the polarization of American politics has contributed to an extremely
> turbulen time in history.
>
> "We are now on the brink," Mr Dalio told the news outlet, adding that he
> sees a 35 to 40% probability of a second civil war.
>
> He clarified that the civil war he sees is not one where people "grab
> guns and start shooting" but one where people stop seeing the middle ground
> in politics. But he imagines, "People move to different states that are
> more aligned with what they want and they don't follow the decisions of
> federal authorities of the opposite political persuasion," Mr Dalio said.

Oh, you mean like 'sanctuary cities'?

> Studies have shown that Americans are growing more politically polarized
> now than ever before. A Pew Research Poll found that only 32% of
> Americans have a roughly equal number of conservative and liberal positions
> -- compared to 49% in 2004.
>
> Contentious election cycles are becoming more common, which contributes to
> the growing rift between both political parties.
>
> Social media has made it easy for like-minded extremists to connect and
> support each other which emboldens people to take radical action. Like
> those who organized protests and eventually stormed the Capitol on January
> 6, 2021.

Notice how this author only uses examples of Republican violence.

No mention whatsoever of an entire summer full of cities on fire,
businesses smashed and looted, people killed. Leftists taking over
entire sections of a city, declaring it off limits to police, fire, and
EMS, patrolling it with "assault rifles" (which are supposedly anathema
to the left), then committing all manner of crime inside its boundaries,
to include rape and murder. And all with the tacit (and often overt)
approval of leftist government officials, news media, and celebrities.

But the media is objective and unbiased. Just ask them, they'll tell you
so.

Subject: Re: Billionaires Say There'll Be A CIVIL WAR If They Don't Get Trump's Big Tax Cut
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Subject: Re: Billionaires Say There'll Be A CIVIL WAR If They Don't Get
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On Sat, 18 May 2024, BTR1701 wrote:

> In article <v2aqpr$2t982$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Corp <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Billionaire investor Ray Dalio has raised concerns about the future of the
>> United States, saying the current political climate has created a one-in-
>> three chance for civil war.
>>
>> In an interview with The Financial Times this week, Mr Dalio described how
>> the polarization of American politics has contributed to an extremely
>> turbulen time in history.
>>
>> "We are now on the brink," Mr Dalio told the news outlet, adding that he
>> sees a 35 to 40% probability of a second civil war.
>>
>> He clarified that the civil war he sees is not one where people "grab
>> guns and start shooting" but one where people stop seeing the middle ground
>> in politics. But he imagines, "People move to different states that are
>> more aligned with what they want and they don't follow the decisions of
>> federal authorities of the opposite political persuasion," Mr Dalio said.
>
> Oh, you mean like 'sanctuary cities'?
>
>> Studies have shown that Americans are growing more politically polarized
>> now than ever before. A Pew Research Poll found that only 32% of
>> Americans have a roughly equal number of conservative and liberal positions
>> -- compared to 49% in 2004.
>>
>> Contentious election cycles are becoming more common, which contributes to
>> the growing rift between both political parties.
>>
>> Social media has made it easy for like-minded extremists to connect and
>> support each other which emboldens people to take radical action. Like
>> those who organized protests and eventually stormed the Capitol on January
>> 6, 2021.
>
> Notice how this author only uses examples of Republican violence.
>
> No mention whatsoever of an entire summer full of cities on fire,
> businesses smashed and looted, people killed. Leftists taking over
> entire sections of a city, declaring it off limits to police, fire, and
> EMS, patrolling it with "assault rifles" (which are supposedly anathema
> to the left), then committing all manner of crime inside its boundaries,
> to include rape and murder. And all with the tacit (and often overt)
> approval of leftist government officials, news media, and celebrities.
>
> But the media is objective and unbiased. Just ask them, they'll tell you
> so.
>

Note that FT is a european newspaper, hence it is very common with
the Trump is satan narrative.

I think the only "right" country in europe is probably switzerland and a
few countries in eastern europe. In those countries newspapers you will
read about what faults of the democrats.

As for the prediction I don't think it is unfeasible that there will be
bigger moves to more freedom-oriented states. If any of those states will
then choose to disregard the central government, it will become very
interesting to see what will happen.

I very much doubt they will send military men against their own, that will
only makes things worse.

Subject: Re: Billionaires Say There'll Be A CIVIL WAR If They Don't Get Trump's Big Tax Cut
From: Sam
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On Sat, 18 May 2024 18:07:55 -0000 (UTC), The Corp
<privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote:

>Billionaire investor Ray Dalio has raised concerns about the future of the
>United States, saying the current political climate has created a one-in-
>three chance for “civil war.”

As Churchill said, "Give the fascists all the god damn war they want!"

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On Sat, 18 May 2024 18:07:55 -0000 (UTC), The Corp

another mass murderer dies in a helicopter

assange appeal allowed

hiv and hepatitis cover up finished

and many more skeletons tumble out of the cupboard

such are early effects of the new technology

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On 2024-05-20, abelard <abelard@abelard.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2024 18:07:55 -0000 (UTC), The Corp
>
> another mass murderer dies in a helicopter

[...]

> such are early effects of the new technology

Would that be Israeli technology?

Subject: Re: the end of government secrecy...a good day for the end of secrecy
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On Mon, 20 May 2024 13:55:36 -0000 (UTC), Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-05-20, abelard <abelard@abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 May 2024 18:07:55 -0000 (UTC), The Corp
>>
>> another mass murderer dies in a helicopter
>
>[...]
>
>> such are early effects of the new technology
>
>Would that be Israeli technology?

fortunately, the good guys tend to have the most advanced technology

"Whatever happens, we have got, the Maxim, and they have not," coined
by Hilaire Belloc in his 1898 account The Modern Traveler

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On Mon, 20 May 2024 13:55:36 -0000 (UTC), Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 2024-05-20, abelard <abelard@abelard.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 May 2024 18:07:55 -0000 (UTC), The Corp
>>
>> another mass murderer dies in a helicopter
>
>[...]
>
>> such are early effects of the new technology
>
>Would that be Israeli technology?

Nah! The Americans probably had a bad part installed on the helicopter,
so it would fall out of the sky. It was a Bell 212H helicopter.

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and trust in God, then there is no goal,
at all, beyond our reach. There is no
dream too large, no task too great.

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