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Subject: Re: Who, gave all power to Jesus
From: Michael Christ
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On 19/05/2024 9:50 am, Robert wrote:
>
> The Great Commission!
>
> Amazing.
>
> Mat 28:16-20 (KJV)
>
> 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where
> Jesus had appointed them.
>
> 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
>
> 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in
> heaven and in earth.

"Who, gave all power to Jesus," is a purely humanistic question and
reasoning. It is the old 'can God create a rock to heavy for Him lift?'

All rock is Him.

Who gave God the power of God? :-). A nonsense question!

A: No one!

It is not according to your one + one = two theology understanding.

The Lord Jesus is not some lower God, He is God, He is the everlasting
Father. Well, I suppose you just can't help it, but you can go past it
in faith! And that is the stumbling block!

He moves around His power to please Himself, like creating us and this
world.

In relation to the scripture, God is His dispensation in relation to the
cross.

How is that so?

Previously, man had the power of a free choice (to choose), now "all
power" is given the Lord over the free will choice of man. Every will
bends the knee now, even if it is later according to the understanding
of the hard head know-it-all thick heads.

Now, all remains is whether you become a member of the royal family
(what you sow, you reap), the royal priesthood or not, and the Lord
decides that based on whatever He wants to base it on; He is God.

And He has all the power.

Any questions?

No, of course not, you know it all, and are too busy making your own
context. Yes, those sinners (whores) burn in hell but you sinners
(whores) do not context. :-).

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

No man can direct his steps because everything and every moment is
different from the next—you can't step into the same river twice. It
wouldn't matter if you knew every truth in the bible, it would be
useless to you. Why? Because no one knows the precise "moment" in the
infinite moments but God.

Which tells you He knows everything about the future.

That is why I was told to put the bible down, because there had come the
time to receive Him in Person to direct my infinitely complex, diverse,
and unique steps. No man can do that for himself, even if he did have
all knowledge and all wisdom because He is not God.

People need the Lord in Person because He has all power (the Potter) and
you have none, Robert Clay, Bible Entrepreneur! That includes "directing
my path AI" theology ChristRosie, the Stubborn Dick!

All moments, all His, all the glory is His, and His alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSk0u-pvWI

Michael Christ

> 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
> Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
>
> 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and,
> lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
>
> Jesus has been given all power in heaven and in the earth. Interesting,
> right? So who was it that gave Him the Power?
> By this power he authorized the believer to do the things he commands us to
> do. At the end of all things upon this earth,
>
> 1Co 15:24-28 (KJV)
>
> 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
> even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and
> power.
>
> 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
>
> 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
>
> 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things
> are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all
> things under him.
>
> 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also
> himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be
> all in all.
>
> Yes, it was from abba Father that received, and to abba Father that he
> returned all things so that His God and Our God, may be all in all.
>
> The subordination (the Greek term means either subject or subordinate,) of
> the Son to the Father is a voluntary though evidently permanent relationship
> which does not detract from or deny the equal deity of the Son, any more than
> the divine order of the submission of the wife to the husband (1Co 11:3) in
> the husband/wife relationship detracts from her essential equality and
> humanity, or implies her inferiority. This latter relationship I mentioned
> already as being part of One. In Unity. The word of God is chock full of
> these types of relationships. This, when you think about it, is why Jesus
> does not know the date or the hour of His return.
>
>

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God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."


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Subject: Re: Who, gave all power to Jesus
From: dolf
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calligraphy; TO BE ALLOWED TO MARRY --> #511 = [#1, #5, #13, #18, #19, #20,
#23, #24, #33 - chakkâh (H2443): *FISH* *HOOK*, #41, #47, #52, #67, #70,
#78] / [LUO SHU SQUARE: #60 - #511 - PAIRING / SINGLE OCCURRENCE OF #137 IN
COGITO ARRAYS] -> T'AI HSÜAN CHING / COURSE OF NATURE: #10 - DEFECTIVENESS
/ DISTORTION (HSIEN): 31 JANUARY - 4 FEBRUARY being the mórphōsis (G3446)
perpetuated by the *JAPAN* / *SUN* dynamic as TETRAD MENTIONS OF [rì (日)].

I just wonder if by such mórphōsis (G3446) it is possible to deploy the
COGITO ARRAYS for TETRAD within the SCHEMA and thereby make an scientific
appraisal of viable betrothal association between persons.

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Michael%20Tin%20Man%20Subject%20Avoidance.pdf>

This is an informal research opinion which has no association with
INSTITUTIONAL RELIGION.

Michael Christ <michaelmclean91210@outlook.com> wrote:
> On 19/05/2024 9:50 am, Robert wrote:
>>
>> The Great Commission!
>>
>> Amazing.
>>
>> Mat 28:16-20 (KJV)
>>
>> 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where
>> Jesus had appointed them.
>>
>> 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
>>
>> 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in
>> heaven and in earth.
>
> "Who, gave all power to Jesus," is a purely humanistic question and
> reasoning. It is the old 'can God create a rock to heavy for Him lift?'
>
> All rock is Him.
>
> Who gave God the power of God? :-). A nonsense question!
>
> A: No one!
>
> It is not according to your one + one = two theology understanding.
>
> The Lord Jesus is not some lower God, He is God, He is the everlasting
> Father. Well, I suppose you just can't help it, but you can go past it
> in faith! And that is the stumbling block!
>
> He moves around His power to please Himself, like creating us and this
> world.
>
> In relation to the scripture, God is His dispensation in relation to the
> cross.
>
> How is that so?
>
> Previously, man had the power of a free choice (to choose), now "all
> power" is given the Lord over the free will choice of man. Every will
> bends the knee now, even if it is later according to the understanding
> of the hard head know-it-all thick heads.
>
> Now, all remains is whether you become a member of the royal family
> (what you sow, you reap), the royal priesthood or not, and the Lord
> decides that based on whatever He wants to base it on; He is God.
>
> And He has all the power.
>
> Any questions?
>
> No, of course not, you know it all, and are too busy making your own
> context. Yes, those sinners (whores) burn in hell but you sinners
> (whores) do not context. :-).
>
> Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
> is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>
> No man can direct his steps because everything and every moment is
> different from the next—you can't step into the same river twice. It
> wouldn't matter if you knew every truth in the bible, it would be
> useless to you. Why? Because no one knows the precise "moment" in the
> infinite moments but God.
>
> Which tells you He knows everything about the future.
>
> That is why I was told to put the bible down, because there had come the
> time to receive Him in Person to direct my infinitely complex, diverse,
> and unique steps. No man can do that for himself, even if he did have
> all knowledge and all wisdom because He is not God.
>
> People need the Lord in Person because He has all power (the Potter) and
> you have none, Robert Clay, Bible Entrepreneur! That includes "directing
> my path AI" theology ChristRosie, the Stubborn Dick!
>
> All moments, all His, all the glory is His, and His alone.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSk0u-pvWI
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
>> 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
>> Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
>>
>> 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and,
>> lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
>>
>> Jesus has been given all power in heaven and in the earth. Interesting,
>> right? So who was it that gave Him the Power?
>> By this power he authorized the believer to do the things he commands us to
>> do. At the end of all things upon this earth,
>>
>> 1Co 15:24-28 (KJV)
>>
>> 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
>> even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and
>> power.
>>
>> 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
>>
>> 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
>>
>> 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things
>> are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all
>> things under him.
>>
>> 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also
>> himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be
>> all in all.
>>
>> Yes, it was from abba Father that received, and to abba Father that he
>> returned all things so that His God and Our God, may be all in all.
>>
>> The subordination (the Greek term means either subject or subordinate,) of
>> the Son to the Father is a voluntary though evidently permanent relationship
>> which does not detract from or deny the equal deity of the Son, any more than
>> the divine order of the submission of the wife to the husband (1Co 11:3) in
>> the husband/wife relationship detracts from her essential equality and
>> humanity, or implies her inferiority. This latter relationship I mentioned
>> already as being part of One. In Unity. The word of God is chock full of
>> these types of relationships. This, when you think about it, is why Jesus
>> does not know the date or the hour of His return.
>>
>>
>

MICHAEL THIS SUBJECT REQUIRES YOUR URGENT ATTENTION SO PLEASE DON'T AVOID
RESPONDING:

Glad you are still alive Michael and that I might now discharge any
accountability for a propensity or inducement of self harming behavioural
consequences related to a realisation of reality -- life but not as you
know it...

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Michael%20Tin%20Man%20Subject%20Avoidance.pdf>

Of course didn't you know as the perennial #308 - struggle against
enlightenment is that the perfect husband (SATOR / TENET / ROTAS) for the
Catholic Church is a fascist state?

--

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DIALOG and complex dropdown MENU interface deploying the third party d3
library.
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