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* Re: Are you a carnal or a spiritual man of God.Michael Christ
`- Re: Are you a carnal or a spiritual man of God.dolf

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Subject: Re: Are you a carnal or a spiritual man of God.
From: Michael Christ
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 17/05/2024 6:38 am, ChristRose wrote:
> On 5/16/2024 3:19 PM, servant wrote:
>> In which peter once again pitches the very modern scripture theory of the
>> wof/nar.  One doesn't read scripture to understand its info; instead one
>> uses methods of individual devination,ie. direct wifi to the divine to
>> recieve the "real" info of scripture.
>
>
> This is all part of Robert's distraction campaign. He made a prediction
> that most people on earth would be dead within the next ten years.
>
> ========================
> On Wed, 01 May 2024 17:46:29 -0700,
> Article:<0001HW.2BE319E50024873830ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Robert wrote:
> ========================
>
> >most of this world’s population will >not survive the next ten years.
> ========================
>
> I simply asked him for the "source" for his prediction. If he has a
> source that was derived from Scripture (exegesis), he has not produced
> it yet. That's why he's trying to make a big, distracting stink over the
> word exegesis rather than simply answer the original quest6ion and
> provide his Bible source. He doesn't have one.
>
> Jesus said,
>
> ““But of that day and hour no one knows,
> not even the angels in heaven, nor the
> Son, but only the Father.” (Mark 13:32,
> NKJV)

:-). ChristRose's sinner "gotcha" neighbour moment of self-glory! :-).

What is to stop Robert from hearing directly from God? You and your
bible god? :-).

SinnerRosie has forgotten he is an imperfect sinner or in his sinner
perfection it just does not matter?

Well, he judges in his sinful state and so judgement is upon him.

Michael Christ

>> That I propose is a mark of the "carnal man".
>>
>>> The ways of man. From the Britannica,
>>>
>>> *exegesis*, the critical interpretation of the biblical text to
>>> discover its
>>> intended meaning. Both Jews and Christians have used various exegetical
>>> methods throughout their history, and doctrinal and polemical
>>> intentions have
>>> often influenced interpretive results; a given text may yield a
>>> number of
>>> very different interpretations according to the exegetical
>>> presuppositions
>>> and techniques applied to it. The study of these methodological
>>> principles
>>> themselves constitutes the field of hermeneutics
>>> (https://www.britannica.com/topic/hermeneutics-principles-of-biblical-
>>> interpretation).
>>>
>>> The ways of the Godly.
>>>
>>> 1Co 2:9-14 (KJV)
>>>
>>> 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have
>>> entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for
>>> them
>>> that love him.
>>>
>>> 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit
>>> searcheth
>>> all things, yea, the deep things of God.
>>>
>>> 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man
>>> which is
>>> in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
>>>
>>> 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit
>>> which is
>>> of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of
>>> God.
>>>
>>> 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom
>>> teacheth,
>>> but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with
>>> spiritual.
>>>
>>> 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
>>> for
>>> they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they
>>> are
>>> spiritually discerned.
>>>
>>> V13 encapsulates the fullness of understanding. Those that have
>>> problems with
>>> walking in the spirit, have great difficulties in understanding the
>>> things of
>>> God, because they are with not spiritual or Born Again in the first
>>> place, or
>>> because they have been lead astray by others who also lack much
>>> spiritually
>>> speaking. This is the reason one requires the renewing of the mind after
>>> having been born again.
>>>
>>> These people are easily recognized by their demanding exegesis, or solid
>>> exegesis as determined and judged by man, as God has no bearing on the
>>> matter. They are like clouds, without water. Being puffed up they
>>> recognize
>>> not their own frailty.
>>>
>>> âIf any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him
>>> acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the
>>> commandments of the
>>> Lord.â (1Co 14:37, KJV)
>
>

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Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."


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Subject: Re: Are you a carnal or a spiritual man of God.
From: dolf
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Glad you are still alive Michael and that I might now discharge any
accountability for a propensity or inducement of self harming behavioural
consequences related to a realisation of reality -- life but not as you
know it...

<http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Michael%20Tin%20Man%20Subject%20Avoidance.pdf>

Michael Christ <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
> On 17/05/2024 6:38 am, ChristRose wrote:
>> On 5/16/2024 3:19 PM, servant wrote:
>>> In which peter once again pitches the very modern scripture theory of the
>>> wof/nar.  One doesn't read scripture to understand its info; instead one
>>> uses methods of individual devination,ie. direct wifi to the divine to
>>> recieve the "real" info of scripture.
>>
>>
>> This is all part of Robert's distraction campaign. He made a prediction
>> that most people on earth would be dead within the next ten years.
>>
>> ========================
>> On Wed, 01 May 2024 17:46:29 -0700,
>> Article:<0001HW.2BE319E50024873830ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Robert wrote:
>> ========================
>>
>>> most of this world’s population will >not survive the next ten years.
>> ========================
>>
>> I simply asked him for the "source" for his prediction. If he has a
>> source that was derived from Scripture (exegesis), he has not produced
>> it yet. That's why he's trying to make a big, distracting stink over the
>> word exegesis rather than simply answer the original quest6ion and
>> provide his Bible source. He doesn't have one.
>>
>> Jesus said,
>>
>> ““But of that day and hour no one knows,
>> not even the angels in heaven, nor the
>> Son, but only the Father.” (Mark 13:32,
>> NKJV)
>
> :-). ChristRose's sinner "gotcha" neighbour moment of self-glory! :-).
>
> What is to stop Robert from hearing directly from God? You and your
> bible god? :-).
>
> SinnerRosie has forgotten he is an imperfect sinner or in his sinner
> perfection it just does not matter?
>
> Well, he judges in his sinful state and so judgement is upon him.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
>
>>> That I propose is a mark of the "carnal man".
>>>
>>>> The ways of man. From the Britannica,
>>>>
>>>> *exegesis*, the critical interpretation of the biblical text to
>>>> discover its
>>>> intended meaning. Both Jews and Christians have used various exegetical
>>>> methods throughout their history, and doctrinal and polemical
>>>> intentions have
>>>> often influenced interpretive results; a given text may yield a
>>>> number of
>>>> very different interpretations according to the exegetical
>>>> presuppositions
>>>> and techniques applied to it. The study of these methodological
>>>> principles
>>>> themselves constitutes the field of hermeneutics
>>>> (https://www.britannica.com/topic/hermeneutics-principles-of-biblical-
>>>> interpretation).
>>>>
>>>> The ways of the Godly.
>>>>
>>>> 1Co 2:9-14 (KJV)
>>>>
>>>> 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have
>>>> entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for
>>>> them
>>>> that love him.
>>>>
>>>> 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit
>>>> searcheth
>>>> all things, yea, the deep things of God.
>>>>
>>>> 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man
>>>> which is
>>>> in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
>>>>
>>>> 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit
>>>> which is
>>>> of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of
>>>> God.
>>>>
>>>> 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom
>>>> teacheth,
>>>> but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with
>>>> spiritual.
>>>>
>>>> 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
>>>> for
>>>> they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they
>>>> are
>>>> spiritually discerned.
>>>>
>>>> V13 encapsulates the fullness of understanding. Those that have
>>>> problems with
>>>> walking in the spirit, have great difficulties in understanding the
>>>> things of
>>>> God, because they are with not spiritual or Born Again in the first
>>>> place, or
>>>> because they have been lead astray by others who also lack much
>>>> spiritually
>>>> speaking. This is the reason one requires the renewing of the mind after
>>>> having been born again.
>>>>
>>>> These people are easily recognized by their demanding exegesis, or solid
>>>> exegesis as determined and judged by man, as God has no bearing on the
>>>> matter. They are like clouds, without water. Being puffed up they
>>>> recognize
>>>> not their own frailty.
>>>>
>>>> âIf any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him
>>>> acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the
>>>> commandments of the
>>>> Lord.â (1Co 14:37, KJV)
>>
>>
>

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