"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:v25eve$1m5b5$11@dont-email.me:

>
>
> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> news:66453170$0$7070$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> In article <v22f6d$tibb$14@dont-email.me>,
>> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>>
>>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190...
>>> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> > news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >
>>> >> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>,
>>> >> noemail@aol.com says...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in
>>> >>> >> news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >>> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >>> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> >>> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>>> >>> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>>> >>> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can't because it doesn't
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> school?
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> is, has, and will continue to produce.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> they
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> >>> existing
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt)
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> on any
>>> >>> new
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> projects.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> sources of income.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> the CBO
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
>>> >>> Am
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>>> >>> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of
>>> >>> >>>>>>> the GDP.
>>> >>> If
>>> >>> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>> >>> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
>>> >>> >>>>>> stop. My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax
>>> >>> >>>>>> dollars on? Are these bills productive or are millions of
>>> >>> >>>>>> dollars set aside to
>>> >>> study
>>> >>> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>>> >>> >>>>
>>> >>> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
>>> >>> >>>> spending. We
>>> >>> >> can
>>> >>> >>>> do it again..
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>>> >>> than billionaire Trump?
>>> >>
>>> >> Really? You are scraping bottom.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Trump went for years without
>>> > paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>>> > that?
>>>
>>> Really? Produce your proof for any year you like, that Trump did not
>>> pay a
>>> single penny in tax.. for anything.
>>> ,
>>> Oh, let me guess, you're just full of shit.
>>>
>>
>> Just like the Russia collusion the tax story is a joke.
>
> And I could also note that to date, no one has ever shown Trump is
> delinquent on any tax.

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66453115$1$7064$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <v22j0c$ueks$12@dont-email.me>,
> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>
>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsB17355F19487D629555@185.151.15.160...
>> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66441ea7$1$7164
>> > $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >
>> >> In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>> >> says...
>> >>>
>> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>>
>> >>> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> >>> > says...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >>> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> >>> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>> >>> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
>> > under
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
>> > per
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
>> > grade
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
>> > they
>> >>> >> have
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>> >>> >> existing
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
>> > debt)
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >>> >> new
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
>> > bonds
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
>> > don't
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> sources
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
>> > and
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
>> > Subtract
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
>> >>> >> Am
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
>> >>> >> If
>> >>> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>> >>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>>
>> >>> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
>> > stop.
>> >>> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>> >>> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
>> > set
>> >>> >> >>>>>> aside to
>> >>> >> study
>> >>> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>> >>> >> >>>>
>> >>> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
>> > spending.
>> >>> >> >>>> We
>> >>> >> >> can
>> >>> >> >>>> do it again..
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>> >>> >> >>>
>> >>> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>> >>> >> than billionaire Trump?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Trump went for years without
>> >>> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>> >>> that?
>> >>
>> >> What does that have to do with anything?
>> >
>> >
>> > You pay taxes so Trump doesn't have to.
>>
>> And we thank you for paying Trump's taxes.
>>

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66451770$1$3711205$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>
>> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur under
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion per
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd grade
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and they
>> >> have
>> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>> >> existing
>> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new debt)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>> >> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >> new
>> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any bonds
>> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they don't
>> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
>> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts, and
>> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion. Subtract
>> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
>> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
>> >> Am
>> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
>> >> If
>> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to stop.
>> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars set
>> >> >>>>>> aside to
>> >> study
>> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out spending.
>> >> >>>> We
>> >> >> can
>> >> >>>> do it again..
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>> >> >
>> >> u cab find a legalloophole then use it.
>> >>
>> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>> >> than billionaire Trump?
>> >
>> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Trump went for years without
>> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>> that?
>
> Who cares? Different rules. If you find a legal loophole then use it.

"Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:XnsB173D42891061629555@185.151.15.160...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66451770$1$3711205
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >>
>>> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>>> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> under
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
> per
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> grade
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> they
>>> >> have
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>>> >> existing
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> debt)
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> any
>>> >> new
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> bonds
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> don't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>>> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
>>> >> the
>>> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> and
>>> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> Subtract
>>> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
>>> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
>>> >> Am
>>> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>>> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>>> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>>> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
>>> >> If
>>> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> stop.
>>> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>>> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> set
>>> >> >>>>>> aside to
>>> >> study
>>> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> spending.
>>> >> >>>> We
>>> >> >> can
>>> >> >>>> do it again..
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>>> >> >
>>> >> u cab find a legalloophole then use it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>>> >> than billionaire Trump?
>>> >
>>> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump went for years without
>>> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>>> that?
>>
>> Who cares? Different rules.
>
>
> Exactly.

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:664518f8$0$3711198$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <v219gs$l66f$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20k0r$ap50$9@dont-email.me:
>>
>> > On 5/14/2024 4:59 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>
>> >>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>> >>>
>> >>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>> >>
>> >> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>> >
>> > Nope. You want the benefits of govt you gotta have some skin in the
>> > game.
>> >
>> >>> Maybe they
>> >>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>> >>> fair share for a change.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>> >
>> > They employ you. No good deed goes unpunished does it, welcher?
>> >
>> >
>> They pay substandard wages unless you're in a Union.
>
> Who does? Are you a burger flipper? They get $20 an hours in sewer state
> California. That will be the downfall of small business.

I understand they are now replacing the employees with machines....

So now instead of a low paying job... they have no job.

Such an improvement.

"Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:XnsB173D6AF574BA629555@185.151.15.190...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6645301a$0$7059
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <XnsB17355A52F9D6629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>> news:v20tgc$f3ai$5@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> > On 2024-05-14, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>>> >> On 5/14/2024 5:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>,
> noemail@aol.com
>>> >>>> says...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >>>>>>>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government
> is,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>> >>>>> have
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>>> >>>>> existing
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest
> on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>> >>>>> new
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
> sources
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of income.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to
> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CBO
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
>>> >>>>> Am
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of
> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GDP.
>>> >>>>> If
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax
> dollars
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> set aside to
>>> >>>>> study
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> how chickens mate?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
>>> >>>>>>>>> spending. We
>>> >>>>>>> can
>>> >>>>>>>>> do it again..
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> The rich are already taxed.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Many of the non-rich don't either.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>>> >>>>> than billionaire Trump?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Really? You are scraping bottom.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That's a real question. tRump claims to be a billionaire yet
> picks
>>> >>> your pocket and cheats on taxes.
>>> >>
>>> >> Nope, he used the very tax code that Biden, over his 2000+ years in
>>> >> govt, has created.
>>> >
>>> > Yep.
>>> > The rich use the loopholes to their advantage. I am against that but
>>> > it's the current system. Somebody making 40k a year does not have
> that
>>> > ability.
>>>
>>>
>>> The rich MAKE the loopholes, the
>>> rich use the loopholes, and you really
>>> think they "apply across the board"?
>>
>> He never said they did.
>>
>
> Remarks by President Trump at
> Signing of H.R. 1, Tax Cuts and
> Jobs Bill Act, and H.R. 1370
> December 22, 2017
> https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-
> president-trump-signing-h-r-1-tax-cuts-jobs-bill-act-h-r-1370/
>
>
> "The corporate tax rate, as you know,
> will be lowered from 35 to 21 percent."
>
>
> Did YOUR tax bill go down by 14%?

"Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
news:XnsB173D7982A7BD629555@185.151.15.190...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>>
>>> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>>> >> foreign countries?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > What bribes?
>>> >
>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>
>> What bribes? Show me some.
>
>
> "Give me a billion and I
> will do what you want"
Joe Biden?

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v256ss$1k717$3@dont-email.me...
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:jgja4j13qj8dc7dl572ff8v7adu77fpmh7@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:22:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>>news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:
>>>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
>>>>>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year
>>>>>> old gets everything free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
>>>>
>>>> What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t
>>>> think were any lefttists back than.
>>>>
>>>You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might
>>>be getting something you don't get too.
>>
>> Who might that be?
>>
>>> We've seen your kind again and
>>>again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't have
>>>it NOBODY can have it.
>>
>> Can't have what? I've got everything I need.
>>
>
> Arbeit macht frei

Unwissenheit bindet dich

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v23cmk$14eha$2@dont-email.me...
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
> that
>>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>>Meanwhile
>>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
> you're
>>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>>
>>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>>share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>>
>>
>> 10,000% ????? Really?
>>
>
> Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
> our country.

Cite

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v23ct9$14eha$3@dont-email.me...
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:33l94jhptf2por039cglsrvo4qagab7gth@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:07:45 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
>>>185.151.15.160:
>>>
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
> foreign
>>>>> countries?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What bribes?
>>>>
>>>Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>
>>
>> Assumes "facts" not in evidence
>>
>
> The facta ARE in evidence. His offer to Oil executives to gut regulations
> in return for a $1B "campain contribution"

What are you pissed they aren't going the regular route?

"Actually, the rich have their minions write those laws for Congress, then
bribe Congress to pass them as law."
Baxter - 5/15/2024

In article <v25eve$1m5b5$11@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> news:66453170$0$7070$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> > In article <v22f6d$tibb$14@dont-email.me>,
> > me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
> >>
> >> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
> >> news:XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190...
> >> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> > news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >> >> says...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >>> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> >>> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >> >>> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur under
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion per
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd grade
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and they
> >> >>> have
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >> >>> existing
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new debt)
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> any
> >> >>> new
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any bonds
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they don't
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>> of income.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts, and
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion. Subtract
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> trillion.
> >> >>> Am
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >> >>> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >> >>> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >> >>> If
> >> >>> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >> >>> >>>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>>
> >> >>> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to stop.
> >> >>> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >> >>> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars set
> >> >>> >>>>>> aside to
> >> >>> study
> >> >>> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out spending.
> >> >>> >>>> We
> >> >>> >> can
> >> >>> >>>> do it again..
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >> >>> than billionaire Trump?
> >> >>
> >> >> Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Trump went for years without
> >> > paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> >> > that?
> >>
> >> Really? Produce your proof for any year you like, that Trump did not pay
> >> a
> >> single penny in tax.. for anything.
> >> ,
> >> Oh, let me guess, you're just full of shit.
> >>
> >
> > Just like the Russia collusion the tax story is a joke.
>
> And I could also note that to date, no one has ever shown Trump is
> delinquent on any tax.
>
>

In article <XnsB1748509CEBCF629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:v25eve$1m5b5$11@dont-email.me:
>
> >
> >
> > "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:66453170$0$7070$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >> In article <v22f6d$tibb$14@dont-email.me>,
> >> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
> >>>
> >>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190...
> >>> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> > news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>> >
> >>> >> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>,
> >>> >> noemail@aol.com says...
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in
> >>> >>> >> news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> >>> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> >>> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >>> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >>> >>> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can't because it doesn't
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> school?
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> is, has, and will continue to produce.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> they
> >>> >>> have
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>> >>> existing
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt)
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> on any
> >>> >>> new
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> projects.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> sources of income.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> the CBO
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
> >>> >>> Am
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> the GDP.
> >>> >>> If
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> >>> >>> >>>>>> stop. My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax
> >>> >>> >>>>>> dollars on? Are these bills productive or are millions of
> >>> >>> >>>>>> dollars set aside to
> >>> >>> study
> >>> >>> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >>> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> >>> >>> >>>> spending. We
> >>> >>> >> can
> >>> >>> >>>> do it again..
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >>> >>> than billionaire Trump?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Trump went for years without
> >>> > paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> >>> > that?
> >>>
> >>> Really? Produce your proof for any year you like, that Trump did not
> >>> pay a
> >>> single penny in tax.. for anything.
> >>> ,
> >>> Oh, let me guess, you're just full of shit.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Just like the Russia collusion the tax story is a joke.
> >
> > And I could also note that to date, no one has ever shown Trump is
> > delinquent on any tax.
>
>
> Is that the best you can do?
>
> You are REQUIRED to pay your taxes
> on time, you don't get a cookie for
> obeying the law.
>
> "Your honor, my client has come to
> court on time and sober every day this
> week" Judge - "Is this his idea of an
> accomplishment?"

In article <v256o9$1k717$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:8hhb4jpv4ln4tklauhatj7hqgr2ir3nbtd@4ax.com:
>
> > On Thu, 16 May 2024 02:13:01 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>
> >>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>,
> >>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
> >>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
> >>>>
> >>>> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >>>> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
> >>>> >> foreign countries?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > What bribes?
> >>>> >
> >>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
> >>>
> >>> What bribes? Show me some.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Give me a billion and I
> >>will do what you want"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
> >>as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
> >>Rules
> >>May 09, 2024
> >>https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-B
> >>ig- Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
> >>exchange for $1B from oil bosses
> >>May 9 2024
> >>https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
> >>climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735
> >
> > No facts, just talk.
>
> Those are the facts, it's not just talk.

MSNBC and CNN twist the facts.

In article <v256ss$1k717$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:jgja4j13qj8dc7dl572ff8v7adu77fpmh7@4ax.com:
>
> > On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:22:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> >>news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:
> >>
>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
> >>>>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year
> >>>>> old gets everything free.
> >>>>>
> >>>>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
> >>>
> >>> What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t
> >>> think were any lefttists back than.
> >>>
> >>You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might
> >>be getting something you don't get too.
> >
> > Who might that be?
> >
> >> We've seen your kind again and
> >>again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't have
> >>it NOBODY can have it.
> >
> > Can't have what? I've got everything I need.
> >
>
> Arbeit macht frei

WTF? You have no agenda. You are just trolling.

In article <v25evh$1m5b5$13@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6645326b$0$7062$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> > In article <v22j07$ueks$8@dont-email.me>,
> > me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
> >>
> >> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> >> news:v20jnc$crt1$6@dont-email.me...
> >> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> > news:6643c6f5$0$3711188$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <v20f4i$bp8t$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >> >> says...
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's called loopholes and everyone uses them.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > No, "everybody" do not use them - the rich bought the lawmakers to
> >> > craft
> >> > those loopholes just for them/the rich.
> >>
> >> And yet anyone can use them.
> >>
> >> What? Are you saying you're too stupid to use what in the law?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Well he is against paying taxes.
>
> So am I. But unlike him, I merely refuse to pay taxes I don't owe. Looks
> like he against paying even the taxes he owes.
>
>

But I bet he bitches about potholes.

On 5/15/2024 3:24 PM, Baxter wrote:
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
> that
>>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>> Meanwhile
>>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
> you're
>>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>>
>>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>> share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>>
>>
>> 10,000% ????? Really?
>>
>
> Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
> our country.

No, Bugster, that is *bullshit*. The bottom 50% of Americans hold total wealth
of $3.6 trillion: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBLB50107

Here are the 10 richest people in the U.S., along with their net worth as of
September 2023, according to Forbes (via Wikipedia):

_Name_ _$Bn_ _Source_

1 Elon Musk 251 Tesla, SpaceX
2 Jeff Bezos 161 Amazon
3 Larry Ellison 158 Oracle
4 Warren Buffett 121 Berkshire Hathaway
5 Larry Page 114 Alphabet
6 Bill Gates 111 Microsoft
7 Sergey Brin 110 Alphabet
8 Mark Zuckerberg 106 Meta
9 Steve Ballmer 101 Microsoft
10 Michael Bloomberg 96 Bloomberg L.P.

Total $1,329 billion, or $1.3 trillion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_Americans_by_net_worth#Top_25_richest_Americans

Altogether, the top *ten* richest people have a combined net worth of $1.3
trillion. That's about 36% of the total net worth of the bottom 50%.

This is what happens to you, Bugster, when you pull numbers out of your gaping
incontinent asshole.

On 5/16/2024 3:26 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
> On 5/15/2024 3:24 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>> news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
>> that
>>>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, you're  sucking rich ass.  - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>>> Meanwhile
>>>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
>> you're
>>>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>>>
>>>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>>> share.  It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 10,000% ?????   Really?
>>>
>>
>> Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
>> our country.
>
> No, Bugster, that is *bullshit*. The bottom 50% of Americans hold total
> wealth of $3.6 trillion: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBLB50107
>
> Here are the 10 richest people in the U.S., along with their net worth
> as of September 2023, according to Forbes (via Wikipedia):
>
>      _Name_            _$Bn_  _Source_
>
>  1   Elon Musk          251   Tesla, SpaceX
>  2   Jeff Bezos         161   Amazon
>  3   Larry Ellison      158   Oracle
>  4   Warren Buffett     121   Berkshire Hathaway
>  5   Larry Page         114   Alphabet
>  6   Bill Gates         111   Microsoft
>  7   Sergey Brin        110   Alphabet
>  8   Mark Zuckerberg    106   Meta
>  9   Steve Ballmer      101   Microsoft
> 10   Michael Bloomberg   96   Bloomberg L.P.
>
> Total                $1,329 billion, or $1.3 trillion
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_Americans_by_net_worth#Top_25_richest_Americans
>
> Altogether, the top *ten* richest people have a combined net worth of
> $1.3 trillion. That's about 36% of the total net worth of the bottom 50%.
>
> This is what happens to you, Bugster, when you pull numbers out of your
> gaping incontinent asshole.
>
>

Dodge noted, Ball. It's called *The Income Tax* not The Wealth Tax.

On 5/16/2024 12:30 PM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times — and
*admits* it — lied:

> On 5/16/2024 3:26 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
>> On 5/15/2024 3:24 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>> news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
>>> that
>>>>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, you're  sucking rich ass.  - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>>>> Meanwhile
>>>>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
>>> you're
>>>>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>>>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>>>> share.  It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10,000% ?????   Really?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
>>> our country.
>>
>> No, Bugster, that is *bullshit*. The bottom 50% of Americans hold total wealth
>> of $3.6 trillion: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBLB50107
>>
>> Here are the 10 richest people in the U.S., along with their net worth as of
>> September 2023, according to Forbes (via Wikipedia):
>>
>>       _Name_            _$Bn_  _Source_
>>
>>   1   Elon Musk          251   Tesla, SpaceX
>>   2   Jeff Bezos         161   Amazon
>>   3   Larry Ellison      158   Oracle
>>   4   Warren Buffett     121   Berkshire Hathaway
>>   5   Larry Page         114   Alphabet
>>   6   Bill Gates         111   Microsoft
>>   7   Sergey Brin        110   Alphabet
>>   8   Mark Zuckerberg    106   Meta
>>   9   Steve Ballmer      101   Microsoft
>> 10   Michael Bloomberg   96   Bloomberg L.P.
>>
>> Total                $1,329 billion, or $1.3 trillion
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_Americans_by_net_worth#Top_25_richest_Americans
>>
>> Altogether, the top *ten* richest people have a combined net worth of $1.3
>> trillion. That's about 36% of the total net worth of the bottom 50%.
>>
>> This is what happens to you, Bugster, when you pull numbers out of your gaping
>> incontinent asshole.
>>
>>
>
> Dodge noted, Ball.

No dodge, and no poster here by that name, as you well know, you priest-fucked
little cocksucker.

> It's called *The Income Tax* not The Wealth Tax.

I'm not talking about tax, you priest-fucked little cocksucker. What did Bugster
say, you priest-fucked little cocksucker? He said,

6 people hold more *wealth* than the whole bottom half of our country.
[emphasis added]

I was addressing Bugster's false claim about *wealth*, you priest-fucked little
cocksucker.

I realize now I was wrong when I used to say that you were an SSDI
dole-scrounger, faking a disability. Now I realize you're living off the
settlement you got from the Catholic church for priests having fucked you up the
ass hundreds of times when you were a little boy.

On 5/16/2024 12:13 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <v256o9$1k717$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>> news:8hhb4jpv4ln4tklauhatj7hqgr2ir3nbtd@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 May 2024 02:13:01 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>>>>>>>> foreign countries?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What bribes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>>>>
>>>>> What bribes? Show me some.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Give me a billion and I
>>>> will do what you want"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
>>>> as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
>>>> Rules
>>>> May 09, 2024
>>>> https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-B
>>>> ig- Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
>>>> exchange for $1B from oil bosses
>>>> May 9 2024
>>>> https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
>>>> climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735
>>>
>>> No facts, just talk.
>>
>> Those are the facts, it's not just talk.
>
> MSNBC and CNN twist the facts.

No, they don't.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:27:54 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> His offer to Oil executives to gut regulations
> in return for a $1B "campain contribution"

Unlike Dems emptying the SPR right before elections to drive fuel costs
down?

https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/biden-drains-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve

BIDEN’S POLITICAL PLOY
While families have recently gotten a breather from the $5 gas we saw earlier this summer, they’re still paying much more than they were before President Biden took office. When he made his first withdrawal from the SPR last November, the average price for a gallon of gasoline was about 40% higher than the day he took office. While the left cheered a measly 2-cent drop in prices at the time, the dip didn’t last long, and prices began climbing rapidly in January. Republicans called out the president’s ineffectual gimmick, and a group of senators introduced legislation to ban drawdowns from the SPR unless there is a severe energy supply interruption and until the Interior Department provides a plan to bolster oil and gas production on federal lands and waters.

This spring, as prices continued to spike, Democrats kept up their anti-American energy crusade. In April, the Interior Department announced it would raise royalty rates for onshore leases and cut acreage available for leasing by 80%; and in May, the department canceled offshore lease sales. Meanwhile, President Biden continued to deplete the SPR. In March, he announced the release of one million barrels per day through September, the largest release in the reserve’s history.

It wasn’t until late June that gasoline prices finally began to dip, and, predictably, the administration is trying to credit the SPR releases for the “lower” prices. Industry analysts immediately refuted this attribution. High prices have squeezed demand by forcing people to consume as little as possible, and shrinking demand naturally lowers prices. Prices remain about 70% higher than they were when President Biden took office, but the left is moving full speed ahead with its radical energy agenda full of bad ideas. Senate Democrats recently jammed through a partisan reckless tax and spend spree, which increases costs for domestic energy producers and raises taxes. Democrats blocked a number of commonsense amendments intended to shield consumers by bolstering energy production.

If President Biden and Democrats in Congress are really concerned about
the gas prices that are crushing American families, they should end
their assault on domestic energy producers and embrace policies that
expand the production of affordable and reliable energy, rather than
raiding America’s emergency reserves to hide the problem.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:22:40 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> If you can't have it
> NOBODY can have it.

How much of your personal net worth are you giving away to antifa thugs
and mud people?

On Thu, 16 May 2024 14:57:32 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:jgja4j13qj8dc7dl572ff8v7adu77fpmh7@4ax.com:
>
> > On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:22:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> >>news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:
> >>
>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
> >>>>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six
> >>>>> year old gets everything free.
> >>>>>
> >>>>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
> >>>
> >>> What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t
> >>> think were any lefttists back than.
> >>>
> >>You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might
> >>be getting something you don't get too.
> >
> > Who might that be?
> >
> >> We've seen your kind again and
> >>again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't
> >>have it NOBODY can have it.
> >
> > Can't have what? I've got everything I need.
> >
>
> Arbeit macht frei

Godwins law.

In article <O5t1O.1562$1%Qc.1045@fx18.iad>, air@vatican_.con says...
>
> On 5/15/2024 3:24 PM, Baxter wrote:
> > Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> > news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
> >
> >> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> >> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
> >>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
> > that
> >>>>>> carry your burden for you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
> >>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
> >>> Meanwhile
> >>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
> > you're
> >>>>> paying on the National Debt.
> >>>>
> >>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
> >>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
> >>>>
> >>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
> >>> share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
> >>>
> >>
> >> 10,000% ????? Really?
> >>
> >
> > Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
> > our country.
>
> No, Bugster, that is *bullshit*. The bottom 50% of Americans hold total wealth
> of $3.6 trillion: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBLB50107
>
> Here are the 10 richest people in the U.S., along with their net worth as of
> September 2023, according to Forbes (via Wikipedia):
>
> _Name_ _$Bn_ _Source_
>
> 1 Elon Musk 251 Tesla, SpaceX
> 2 Jeff Bezos 161 Amazon
> 3 Larry Ellison 158 Oracle
> 4 Warren Buffett 121 Berkshire Hathaway
> 5 Larry Page 114 Alphabet
> 6 Bill Gates 111 Microsoft
> 7 Sergey Brin 110 Alphabet
> 8 Mark Zuckerberg 106 Meta
> 9 Steve Ballmer 101 Microsoft
> 10 Michael Bloomberg 96 Bloomberg L.P.
>
> Total $1,329 billion, or $1.3 trillion
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_Americans_by_net_worth#Top_25_richest_Americans
>
> Altogether, the top *ten* richest people have a combined net worth of $1.3
> trillion. That's about 36% of the total net worth of the bottom 50%.
>
> This is what happens to you, Bugster, when you pull numbers out of your gaping
> incontinent asshole.

But Rudy, he's trying to be just like you. Give him a chance.

On 5/16/2024 1:11 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <0xt1O.96$lp3b.36@fx14.iad>, mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut
> says...
>>
>> On 5/16/2024 12:13 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <v256o9$1k717$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>>> news:8hhb4jpv4ln4tklauhatj7hqgr2ir3nbtd@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2024 02:13:01 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>>>>>>>>>> foreign countries?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What bribes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What bribes? Show me some.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Give me a billion and I
>>>>>> will do what you want"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
>>>>>> as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
>>>>>> Rules
>>>>>> May 09, 2024
>>>>>> https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-B
>>>>>> ig- Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
>>>>>> exchange for $1B from oil bosses
>>>>>> May 9 2024
>>>>>> https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
>>>>>> climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735
>>>>>
>>>>> No facts, just talk.
>>>>
>>>> Those are the facts, it's not just talk.
>>>
>>> MSNBC and CNN twist the facts.
>>
>> No, they don't.
>
> They do.

They don't. What they do is report real, untwisted facts that you don't like
because you're a baby.

In article <Prt1O.92$lp3b.56@fx14.iad>, air@vatican_.con says...
>
> On 5/16/2024 12:30 PM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds of times ? and
> *admits* it ? lied:
>
> > On 5/16/2024 3:26 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
> >> On 5/15/2024 3:24 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> >>> news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> >>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
> >>>>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
> >>> that
> >>>>>>>> carry your burden for you.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yeah, you're  sucking rich ass.  - those uber rich are not carrying
> >>>>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
> >>>>> Meanwhile
> >>>>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
> >>> you're
> >>>>>>> paying on the National Debt.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
> >>>>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
> >>>>> share.  It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 10,000% ?????   Really?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
> >>> our country.
> >>
> >> No, Bugster, that is *bullshit*. The bottom 50% of Americans hold total wealth
> >> of $3.6 trillion: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WFRBLB50107
> >>
> >> Here are the 10 richest people in the U.S., along with their net worth as of
> >> September 2023, according to Forbes (via Wikipedia):
> >>
> >>       _Name_            _$Bn_  _Source_
> >>
> >>   1   Elon Musk          251   Tesla, SpaceX
> >>   2   Jeff Bezos         161   Amazon
> >>   3   Larry Ellison      158   Oracle
> >>   4   Warren Buffett     121   Berkshire Hathaway
> >>   5   Larry Page         114   Alphabet
> >>   6   Bill Gates         111   Microsoft
> >>   7   Sergey Brin        110   Alphabet
> >>   8   Mark Zuckerberg    106   Meta
> >>   9   Steve Ballmer      101   Microsoft
> >> 10   Michael Bloomberg   96   Bloomberg L.P.
> >>
> >> Total                $1,329 billion, or $1.3 trillion
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_Americans_by_net_worth#Top_25_richest_Americans
> >>
> >> Altogether, the top *ten* richest people have a combined net worth of $1.3
> >> trillion. That's about 36% of the total net worth of the bottom 50%.
> >>
> >> This is what happens to you, Bugster, when you pull numbers out of your gaping
> >> incontinent asshole.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Dodge noted, Ball.
>
> No dodge, and no poster here by that name, as you well know, you priest-fucked
> little cocksucker.

Your cussing shows he hit a button.
>
> > It's called *The Income Tax* not The Wealth Tax.
>
> I'm not talking about tax, you priest-fucked little cocksucker. What did Bugster
> say, you priest-fucked little cocksucker? He said,

I love it when you lose your shit like that.
>
> 6 people hold more *wealth* than the whole bottom half of our country.
> [emphasis added]
>
> I was addressing Bugster's false claim about *wealth*, you priest-fucked little
> cocksucker.
>
> I realize now I was wrong when I used to say that you were an SSDI
> dole-scrounger, faking a disability. Now I realize you're living off the
> settlement you got from the Catholic church for priests having fucked you up the
> ass hundreds of times when you were a little boy.

This is what Rudy does when he's on another downhill spiral.