In article <v22j21$uaha$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>
> > On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
> >>>
> >>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
> >>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
> >>> carry your burden for you.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
> >> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
> Meanwhile
> >> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money you're
> >> paying on the National Debt.
> >
> > The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
> > The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
> >
> > That is exactly carrying the burden.
> >
>
> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
> share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.

You still crying because you have a shit paying job?

In article <dZ51O.2$SNzd.0@fx40.iad>, NoBody@nowhere.corn says...
>
> On 5/15/2024 2:40 AM, BlueBitch, disgraced *fired* ex-cop, do-nothing useless
> eater and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:
> > On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>>
> >>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>
> >> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >>
> >>> Maybe they
> >>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your fair
> >>> share for a change.
> >>>
> >>
> >> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >
> > Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff?
>
> Why did Republiscums/QAnon think they were entitled to federal money during the
> pandemic to keep their "businesses" [sic] afloat?

I bet you cashed your "Covid" checks.

In article <v22iq9$uaha$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
>
> > On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>>
> >>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>
> >>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >>
> >>> Maybe they
> >>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
> >>> fair share for a change.
> >>>
> >>
> >>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >
> > Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they have
> > the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
> > everything free.
> >
> Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction. You rightards are
> afraid you might have to share the costs and have to pay a little for the
> benefits you get.

Was that supposed to make sense? You work, you get paid, you live your
life. I'm not rich but I'm not letting what rich people do bother me.

Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no
>>>>>> income.
>>>>>
>>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>>
>>>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe they
>>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying
>>>>> your fair share for a change.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>>
>>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
>>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year
>>> old gets everything free.
>>>
>>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
>
> What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t think
> were any lefttists back than.
>
You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might be
getting something you don't get too. We've seen your kind again and
again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't have it
NOBODY can have it.

Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
that
>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>Meanwhile
>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
you're
>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>
>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>
>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>
>>
>>And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>
>
> 10,000% ????? Really?
>

Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
our country.

Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
news:33l94jhptf2por039cglsrvo4qagab7gth@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:07:45 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
>>185.151.15.160:
>>
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>
>>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
foreign
>>>> countries?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What bribes?
>>>
>>Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>
>
> Assumes "facts" not in evidence
>

The facta ARE in evidence. His offer to Oil executives to gut regulations
in return for a $1B "campain contribution"

On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:27:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>news:33l94jhptf2por039cglsrvo4qagab7gth@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:07:45 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
>>>185.151.15.160:
>>>
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>foreign
>>>>> countries?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What bribes?
>>>>
>>>Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>
>>
>> Assumes "facts" not in evidence
>>
>
>The facta ARE in evidence. His offer to Oil executives to gut regulations
>in return for a $1B "campain contribution"

No, a rumor is not evidence, Dummy

On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:24:20 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
>that
>>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>>Meanwhile
>>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
>you're
>>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>>
>>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>>share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>>
>>
>> 10,000% ????? Really?
>>
>
>Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
>our country.

Don't be jealous.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:22:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>>news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>>>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no
>>>>>>> income.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>>>
>>>>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe they
>>>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying
>>>>>> your fair share for a change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>>>
>>>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
>>>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year
>>>> old gets everything free.
>>>>
>>>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
>>
>> What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t think
>> were any lefttists back than.
>>
>You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might be
>getting something you don't get too.

Who might that be?

> We've seen your kind again and
>again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't have it
>NOBODY can have it.

Can't have what? I've got everything I need.

In article <v23cjf$14eha$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:
>
> > On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> >>news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> >>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no
> >>>>>> income.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>>>
> >>>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Maybe they
> >>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying
> >>>>> your fair share for a change.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >>>
> >>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
> >>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year
> >>> old gets everything free.
> >>>
> >>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
> >
> > What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t think
> > were any lefttists back than.
> >
> You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might be
> getting something you don't get too. We've seen your kind again and
> again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't have it
> NOBODY can have it.

What are you crying about you self centered selfish something?

In article <v23cmk$14eha$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com:
>
> > On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
> >>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people
> that
> >>>>> carry your burden for you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
> >>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
> >>Meanwhile
> >>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money
> you're
> >>>> paying on the National Debt.
> >>>
> >>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
> >>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
> >>>
> >>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
> >>>
> >>
> >>And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
> >>share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
> >>
> >
> > 10,000% ????? Really?
> >
>
> Worse than that = 6 people hold more wealth than the whole bottom half of
> our country.

So? Tell us this bothers you.

In article <v23ct9$14eha$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:33l94jhptf2por039cglsrvo4qagab7gth@4ax.com:
>
> > On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:07:45 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> > <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
> >>185.151.15.160:
> >>
> >>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
> foreign
> >>>> countries?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> What bribes?
> >>>
> >>Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
> >
> >
> > Assumes "facts" not in evidence
> >
>
> The facta ARE in evidence. His offer to Oil executives to gut regulations
> in return for a $1B "campain contribution"

When did you make up that story?

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66451770$1$3711205
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>
>> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
under
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
per
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
grade
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
they
>> >> have
>> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>> >> existing
>> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
debt)
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>> >> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >> new
>> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
bonds
>> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
don't
>> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
>> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
and
>> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
Subtract
>> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
>> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
>> >> Am
>> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
>> >> If
>> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
stop.
>> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
set
>> >> >>>>>> aside to
>> >> study
>> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
spending.
>> >> >>>> We
>> >> >> can
>> >> >>>> do it again..
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>> >> >
>> >> u cab find a legalloophole then use it.
>> >>
>> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>> >> than billionaire Trump?
>> >
>> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Trump went for years without
>> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>> that?
>
> Who cares? Different rules.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6645301a$0$7059
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <XnsB17355A52F9D6629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> news:v20tgc$f3ai$5@dont-email.me:
>>
>> > On 2024-05-14, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>> >> On 5/14/2024 5:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>>
>> >>>> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>,
noemail@aol.com
>> >>>> says...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >>>>>>>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> >>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government
is,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>> >>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>> >>>>> existing
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest
on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>> >>>>> new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
sources
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of income.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to
the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CBO
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
>> >>>>> Am
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of
the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GDP.
>> >>>>> If
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
>> >>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax
dollars
>> >>>>>>>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
>> >>>>>>>>>>> set aside to
>> >>>>> study
>> >>>>>>>>>>> how chickens mate?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
>> >>>>>>>>> spending. We
>> >>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>>>>> do it again..
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The rich are already taxed.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Many of the non-rich don't either.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>> >>>>> than billionaire Trump?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Really? You are scraping bottom.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That's a real question. tRump claims to be a billionaire yet
picks
>> >>> your pocket and cheats on taxes.
>> >>
>> >> Nope, he used the very tax code that Biden, over his 2000+ years in
>> >> govt, has created.
>> >
>> > Yep.
>> > The rich use the loopholes to their advantage. I am against that but
>> > it's the current system. Somebody making 40k a year does not have
that
>> > ability.
>>
>>
>> The rich MAKE the loopholes, the
>> rich use the loopholes, and you really
>> think they "apply across the board"?
>
> He never said they did.
>

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>
>> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>> >
>>
>> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>> >> foreign countries?
>> >>
>> >
>> > What bribes?
>> >
>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>
> What bribes? Show me some.

"Give me a billion and I
will do what you want"

Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
Rules
May 09, 2024
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-Big-
Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html

Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
exchange for $1B from oil bosses
May 9 2024
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735

In article <XnsB173D7982A7BD629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
> >> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
> >>
> >> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
> >> >> foreign countries?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > What bribes?
> >> >
> >> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
> >
> > What bribes? Show me some.
>
>
> "Give me a billion and I
> will do what you want"
>
>
>
> Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
> as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
> Rules
> May 09, 2024
> https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-Big-
> Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
>
>
>
> Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
> exchange for $1B from oil bosses
> May 9 2024
> https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
> climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735

So? There is no bribery.

In article <XnsB173D42891061629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66451770$1$3711205
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> under
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
> per
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> grade
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> they
> >> >> have
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >> >> existing
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> debt)
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> any
> >> >> new
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> bonds
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> don't
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >> >> the
> >> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> and
> >> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> Subtract
> >> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
> >> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
> >> >> Am
> >> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >> >> If
> >> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> stop.
> >> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> set
> >> >> >>>>>> aside to
> >> >> study
> >> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> spending.
> >> >> >>>> We
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >>>> do it again..
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >> >> >
> >> >> u cab find a legalloophole then use it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >> >> than billionaire Trump?
> >> >
> >> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Trump went for years without
> >> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> >> that?
> >
> > Who cares? Different rules.
>
>
> Exactly.
>
>
> > If you find a legal loophole then use it.
> >
>
> What loopholes have YOU used
> to avoid having to pay to any income
> taxes?

In article <XnsB173D6AF574BA629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6645301a$0$7059
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <XnsB17355A52F9D6629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >> news:v20tgc$f3ai$5@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >> > On 2024-05-14, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 5/14/2024 5:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>,
> noemail@aol.com
> >> >>>> says...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >>>>>>>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government
> is,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >> >>>>> existing
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt)
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest
> on
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >> >>>>> new
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
> sources
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of income.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to
> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CBO
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
> >> >>>>> Am
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of
> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> GDP.
> >> >>>>> If
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> stop.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax
> dollars
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> set aside to
> >> >>>>> study
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> >> >>>>>>>>> spending. We
> >> >>>>>>> can
> >> >>>>>>>>> do it again..
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> The rich are already taxed.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >> >>>>> than billionaire Trump?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That's a real question. tRump claims to be a billionaire yet
> picks
> >> >>> your pocket and cheats on taxes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nope, he used the very tax code that Biden, over his 2000+ years in
> >> >> govt, has created.
> >> >
> >> > Yep.
> >> > The rich use the loopholes to their advantage. I am against that but
> >> > it's the current system. Somebody making 40k a year does not have
> that
> >> > ability.
> >>
> >>
> >> The rich MAKE the loopholes, the
> >> rich use the loopholes, and you really
> >> think they "apply across the board"?
> >
> > He never said they did.
> >
>
> Remarks by President Trump at
> Signing of H.R. 1, Tax Cuts and
> Jobs Bill Act, and H.R. 1370
> December 22, 2017
> https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-
> president-trump-signing-h-r-1-tax-cuts-jobs-bill-act-h-r-1370/
>
>
> "The corporate tax rate, as you know,
> will be lowered from 35 to 21 percent."
>
>
> Did YOUR tax bill go down by 14%?
>
>
> "This is the biggest tax cuts and reform
> in the history of our country. This is
> bigger than, actually, President Reagan?s
> many years ago."
>
>
> That would be the tax cut that
> doubled the entire federal debt.
>
>
>
> "We?re going to bring back our companies.
> They?ve already started coming back."
>
> In fact the Trump policy ACCELERATED
> the pace of US companies moving jobs
> overseas.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/49mw7era
>
>
>
>
>

On Thu, 16 May 2024 02:13:01 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:

>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>>
>>> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>>> >> foreign countries?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > What bribes?
>>> >
>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>
>> What bribes? Show me some.
>
>
> "Give me a billion and I
>will do what you want"
>
>
>
>Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
>as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
>Rules
>May 09, 2024
>https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-Big-
>Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
>
>
>
>Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
>exchange for $1B from oil bosses
>May 9 2024
>https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
>climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735

No facts, just talk.

In <8hhb4jpv4ln4tklauhatj7hqgr2ir3nbtd@4ax.com>Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 May 2024 02:13:01 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>>>
>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>>>>>> foreign countries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What bribes?
>>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>>
>>> What bribes? Show me some.
>>
>>
>> "Give me a billion and I
>>will do what you want"
>>
>>
>>
>>Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
>>as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
>>Rules
>>May 09, 2024
>>https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-Big-
>>Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
>>exchange for $1B from oil bosses
>>May 9 2024
>>https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
>>climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735
>
> No facts, just talk.

msnbc with rachel madcow. talk about foamers.

Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
news:8hhb4jpv4ln4tklauhatj7hqgr2ir3nbtd@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 16 May 2024 02:13:01 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>news:6645309d$0$7059$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>,
>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in
>>>> news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@ 185.151.15.160:
>>>>
>>>> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from
>>>> >> foreign countries?
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > What bribes?
>>>> >
>>>> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.
>>>
>>> What bribes? Show me some.
>>
>>
>> "Give me a billion and I
>>will do what you want"
>>
>>
>>
>>Trump Seeks $1 Billion From Big Oil
>>as He Vows to Reverse Biden Climate
>>Rules
>>May 09, 2024
>>https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Trump-Seeks-1-Billion-From-B
>>ig- Oil-as-He-Vows-to-Reverse-Biden-Climate-Rules.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Trump vowed to gut climate laws in
>>exchange for $1B from oil bosses
>>May 9 2024
>>https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-quid-pro-quo-trump-vowed-to-gut-
>>climate-laws-in-exchange-for-1b-from-oil-bosses-210711621735
>
> No facts, just talk.

Those are the facts, it's not just talk.

Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
news:jgja4j13qj8dc7dl572ff8v7adu77fpmh7@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 15 May 2024 22:22:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>>news:upk94j9hq7rirmtihgk8i7gbspktpthl35@4ax.com:
>>

>>>>>
>>>>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they
>>>>> have the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year
>>>>> old gets everything free.
>>>>>
>>>>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.
>>>
>>> What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t
>>> think were any lefttists back than.
>>>
>>You're just fucking green-eyed jealous that someone, somewhere might
>>be getting something you don't get too.
>
> Who might that be?
>
>> We've seen your kind again and
>>again. You're completely selfish and self-centered. If you can't have
>>it NOBODY can have it.
>
> Can't have what? I've got everything I need.
>

Arbeit macht frei

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66453170$0$7070$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <v22f6d$tibb$14@dont-email.me>,
> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>
>> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190...
>> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> > news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >
>> >> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> >> says...
>> >>>
>> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>>
>> >>> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >>> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >>> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> >>> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>> >>> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur under
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion per
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd grade
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and they
>> >>> have
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>> >>> existing
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new debt)
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> any
>> >>> new
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any bonds
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they don't
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
>> >>> >>>>>>>>> of income.
>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>> >>> >>>>>>>> CBO
>> >>> the
>> >>> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts, and
>> >>> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion. Subtract
>> >>> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
>> >>> >>>>>>>> trillion.
>> >>> Am
>> >>> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>> >>> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>> >>> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>> >>> >>>>>>> GDP.
>> >>> If
>> >>> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>> >>> >>>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>>
>> >>> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to stop.
>> >>> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>> >>> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars set
>> >>> >>>>>> aside to
>> >>> study
>> >>> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out spending.
>> >>> >>>> We
>> >>> >> can
>> >>> >>>> do it again..
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>> >>> than billionaire Trump?
>> >>
>> >> Really? You are scraping bottom.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Trump went for years without
>> > paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>> > that?
>>
>> Really? Produce your proof for any year you like, that Trump did not pay
>> a
>> single penny in tax.. for anything.
>> ,
>> Oh, let me guess, you're just full of shit.
>>
>
> Just like the Russia collusion the tax story is a joke.

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:664531cb$0$7074$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <v22j01$ueks$2@dont-email.me>,
> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>
>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>> news:v20jbg$crt1$2@dont-email.me...
>> > Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>> >
>> >> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> >
>> >>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>> >>
>> >> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>> >
>> > Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>
>> Why? Do you don't have to?
>>
>> So are you going to tell us how you are just a free loader, or rather a
>> wantabe freeloader?
>>
>> >
>> >> Maybe they
>> >> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>> >> fair
>> >> share for a change.
>> >>
>> >
>> > They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>
>> You're the one that wants to refuse to pay taxes.
>>
>
> But he had such a grown up response.

For a 4 year old....

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:6645326b$0$7062$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <v22j07$ueks$8@dont-email.me>,
> me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>>
>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>> news:v20jnc$crt1$6@dont-email.me...
>> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> > news:6643c6f5$0$3711188$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >
>> >> In article <v20f4i$bp8t$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> >> says...
>> >>>
>> >
>> >>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>> >>
>> >> It's called loopholes and everyone uses them.
>> >>
>> >
>> > No, "everybody" do not use them - the rich bought the lawmakers to
>> > craft
>> > those loopholes just for them/the rich.
>>
>> And yet anyone can use them.
>>
>> What? Are you saying you're too stupid to use what in the law?
>>
>>
>
> Well he is against paying taxes.

So am I. But unlike him, I merely refuse to pay taxes I don't owe. Looks
like he against paying even the taxes he owes.