On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>
>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>Meanwhile
>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money you're
>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>
>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>
>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>
>
>And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>

10,000% ????? Really?

On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:17:00 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> those uber rich are not carrying
> anyone's burden -

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:14:14 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> Nope.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:07:45 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
>185.151.15.160:
>
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>>
>
>>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from foreign
>>> countries?
>>>
>>
>> What bribes?
>>
>Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.

Assumes "facts" not in evidence

On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:02:33 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> pay a little for the
> benefits you get.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their
> fair share.

Wrong:

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:07:45 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> Meanwhile

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

On 5/15/2024 2:40 AM, BlueBitch, disgraced *fired* ex-cop, do-nothing useless
eater and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:
> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>
>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>
>> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>
>>> Maybe they
>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your fair
>>> share for a change.
>>>
>>
>> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>
> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff?

Why did Republiscums/QAnon think they were entitled to federal money during the
pandemic to keep their "businesses" [sic] afloat?

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v22j21$uaha$3@dont-email.me...
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>
>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
> Meanwhile
>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money you're
>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>
>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>
>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>
>
> And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
> share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.

Prove to us the top 5% make 10,000% of the money as the 95%

"Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message
news:c0l94jdruer951hm56je67lvfcbisppove@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:06:41 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
>>>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>>>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
>>Meanwhile
>>>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money you're
>>>> paying on the National Debt.
>>>
>>> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
>>> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>>>
>>> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>>>
>>
>>And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
>>share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.
>>
>
> 10,000% ????? Really?

Well, he is going to pull out the biggest turd he can.

In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur under
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion per
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd grade
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and they
> >> have
> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >> existing
> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new debt)
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >> >>>>>>>>> any
> >> new
> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any bonds
> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they don't
> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >> the
> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts, and
> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion. Subtract
> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
> >> Am
> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >> If
> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to stop.
> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars set
> >> >>>>>> aside to
> >> study
> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out spending.
> >> >>>> We
> >> >> can
> >> >>>> do it again..
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >> >
> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >> >
> >> u cab find a legalloophole then use it.
> >>
> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >> than billionaire Trump?
> >
> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >
>
>
> Trump went for years without
> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> that?

Who cares? Different rules. If you find a legal loophole then use it.

In article <v2196l$l66f$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6643d284$0$2363148$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <v20jbg$crt1$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >> > On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >> >> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no
> >> >> income.
> >> >
> >> > And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>
> >> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >
> > Why? I bet you support us paying off student loans too.
>
> Those students aren't rich and they'll be paying on those loans until
> they die - forget retirement.

Maybe they should have thought about before they signed the paper. You
borrow, you pay back. Simple.
>
> >>
> >> > Maybe they
> >> > need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
> >> > fair share for a change.
> >> >
> >>
> >> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >
> > How did you come to that? You wont say. Your name calling is typical
> > of a butthurt liberal.
> >
> You're a lying shill/

More name calling. That's the best you can do.

In article <v219a6$l66f$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jro$ap50$7@dont-email.me:
>
> > On 5/14/2024 5:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
>
> >>
> >> That's a real question. tRump claims to be a billionaire yet picks your
> >> pocket and cheats on taxes.
> >
> > Nope, he used the very tax code that Biden, over his 2000+ years in
> > govt, has created.
> >
>
> 2000+ years?! Nope. Biden didn't create those tax loopholes.

Doesn't matter. He still used them.

In article <v219fb$l66f$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>
> > On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>
> >> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
> >
> > No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
> > refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
> > carry your burden for you.
> >
>
> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe. Meanwhile
> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money you're
> paying on the National Debt.

You must be poor. Who cares what they do? Just live your life.

In article <v219gs$l66f$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20k0r$ap50$9@dont-email.me:
>
> > On 5/14/2024 4:59 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>>
> >>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>
> >> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >
> > Nope. You want the benefits of govt you gotta have some skin in the
> > game.
> >
> >>> Maybe they
> >>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
> >>> fair share for a change.
> >>>
> >>
> >> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >
> > They employ you. No good deed goes unpunished does it, welcher?
> >
> >
> They pay substandard wages unless you're in a Union.

Who does? Are you a burger flipper? They get $20 an hours in sewer state
California. That will be the downfall of small business.

In article <v219iv$l66f$6@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:v219gs$l66f$5@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20k0r$ap50$9@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 5/14/2024 4:59 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>>>
> >>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>>
> >>> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >>
> >> Nope. You want the benefits of govt you gotta have some skin in the
> >> game.
> >>
> >>>> Maybe they
> >>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
> >>>> fair share for a change.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >>
> >> They employ you. No good deed goes unpunished does it, welcher?
> >>
> >>
> > They pay substandard wages unless you're in a Union.
> >
> And they make 10 times (or more) from your labor than they pay you.

So? Don't like it? Don't work. If someone offers me a job for a certain
amount I take it and don't give a damn what they do. I agreed to the
amount they offered. This shit isn't that difficult.

In article <gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com>,
Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
> >Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >
> >>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>
> >> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >
> >Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >
> >> Maybe they
> >> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your fair
> >> share for a change.
> >>
> >
> >They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>
> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they have
> the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
> everything free.

They think they are entitled to it. For what reason I don't know.

In article <XnsB17355A52F9D6629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:v20tgc$f3ai$5@dont-email.me:
>
> > On 2024-05-14, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/14/2024 5:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >>>>>>>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >>>>> existing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of income.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CBO
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
> >>>>> Am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> GDP.
> >>>>> If
> >>>>>>>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> >>>>>>>>>>> stop.
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >>>>>>>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> >>>>>>>>>>> set aside to
> >>>>> study
> >>>>>>>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> >>>>>>>>> spending. We
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>> do it again..
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The rich are already taxed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >>>>> than billionaire Trump?
> >>>>
> >>>> Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> That's a real question. tRump claims to be a billionaire yet picks
> >>> your pocket and cheats on taxes.
> >>
> >> Nope, he used the very tax code that Biden, over his 2000+ years in
> >> govt, has created.
> >
> > Yep.
> > The rich use the loopholes to their advantage. I am against that but
> > it's the current system. Somebody making 40k a year does not have that
> > ability.
>
>
> The rich MAKE the loopholes, the
> rich use the loopholes, and you really
> think they "apply across the board"?

In article <v22j40$uaha$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
> 185.151.15.160:
>
> > pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> > news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
> >
>
> >> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from foreign
> >> countries?
> >>
> >
> > What bribes?
> >
> Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.

What bribes? Show me some. I'll wait. Do you donate to the demorat
party? If you do is it a bribe?

In article <XnsB17355F19487D629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66441ea7$1$7164
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> under
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
> per
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> grade
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> they
> >> >> have
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >> >> existing
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> debt)
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> any
> >> >> new
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> bonds
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> don't
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >> >> the
> >> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> and
> >> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> Subtract
> >> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
> >> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
> >> >> Am
> >> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >> >> If
> >> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> stop.
> >> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> set
> >> >> >>>>>> aside to
> >> >> study
> >> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> spending.
> >> >> >>>> We
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >>>> do it again..
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >> >> than billionaire Trump?
> >> >
> >> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Trump went for years without
> >> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> >> that?
> >
> > What does that have to do with anything?
>
>
> You pay taxes so Trump doesn't have to.

In article <v22j0c$ueks$12@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsB17355F19487D629555@185.151.15.160...
> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66441ea7$1$7164
> > $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >
> >> In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>>
> >>> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >>> > says...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >>> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> > under
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
> > per
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> > grade
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> > they
> >>> >> have
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >>> >> existing
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> > debt)
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>> >> new
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> > bonds
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> > don't
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> > and
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> > Subtract
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
> >>> >> Am
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >>> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >>> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >>> >> If
> >>> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >>> >> >>>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>>
> >>> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> > stop.
> >>> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >>> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> > set
> >>> >> >>>>>> aside to
> >>> >> study
> >>> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> > spending.
> >>> >> >>>> We
> >>> >> >> can
> >>> >> >>>> do it again..
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >>> >> than billionaire Trump?
> >>> >
> >>> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Trump went for years without
> >>> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> >>> that?
> >>
> >> What does that have to do with anything?
> >
> >
> > You pay taxes so Trump doesn't have to.
>
> And we thank you for paying Trump's taxes.
>
>

In article <v22f6d$tibb$14@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190...
> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> > news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >
> >> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >>> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >>> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >>> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur under
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion per
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd grade
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >>> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >>> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >>> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and they
> >>> have
> >>> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >>> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >>> existing
> >>> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new debt)
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >>> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>> new
> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any bonds
> >>> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >>> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they don't
> >>> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
> >>> >>>>>>>>> of income.
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >>> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >>> the
> >>> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts, and
> >>> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion. Subtract
> >>> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
> >>> >>>>>>>> trillion.
> >>> Am
> >>> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >>> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >>> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >>> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >>> If
> >>> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to stop.
> >>> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
> >>> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars set
> >>> >>>>>> aside to
> >>> study
> >>> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out spending.
> >>> >>>> We
> >>> >> can
> >>> >>>> do it again..
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >>> >
> >>> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >>> than billionaire Trump?
> >>
> >> Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Trump went for years without
> > paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> > that?
>
> Really? Produce your proof for any year you like, that Trump did not pay a
> single penny in tax.. for anything.
> ,
> Oh, let me guess, you're just full of shit.
>

In article <v22j01$ueks$2@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:v20jbg$crt1$2@dont-email.me...
> > Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >
> >>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>
> >> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >
> > Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>
> Why? Do you don't have to?
>
> So are you going to tell us how you are just a free loader, or rather a
> wantabe freeloader?
>
> >
> >> Maybe they
> >> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your fair
> >> share for a change.
> >>
> >
> > They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>
> You're the one that wants to refuse to pay taxes.
>

But he had such a grown up response.

In article <v22j07$ueks$8@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:v20jnc$crt1$6@dont-email.me...
> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> > news:6643c6f5$0$3711188$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >
> >> In article <v20f4i$bp8t$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >
> >>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>
> >> It's called loopholes and everyone uses them.
> >>
> >
> > No, "everybody" do not use them - the rich bought the lawmakers to craft
> > those loopholes just for them/the rich.
>
> And yet anyone can use them.
>
> What? Are you saying you're too stupid to use what in the law?
>
>

Well he is against paying taxes.

In article <v22j5a$ufkn$1@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
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> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:v22iq9$uaha$2@dont-email.me...
> > Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> > news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
> >
> >> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> >> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
> >>>>
> >>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
> >>>
> >>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
> >>>
> >>>> Maybe they
> >>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
> >>>> fair share for a change.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
> >>
> >> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they have
> >> the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
> >> everything free.
> >>
> > Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction. You rightards are
> > afraid you might have to share the costs and have to pay a little for the
> > benefits you get.
>
> How do I get the benefits that go to someone else?
>
>

If you were an illegal you would get it.