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Subject: Re: Extending Trump Tax Cuts Would Add $4.6 Trillion to Deficit: CBO
From: Scout
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Subject: Re: Extending Trump Tax Cuts Would Add $4.6 Trillion to Deficit: CBO
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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v20eps$bp8t$1@dont-email.me...
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, "Charlie
>>>>>> Glock"@localhost.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur under tax
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion per year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd grade for
>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is irrelevant
>>>>>>>>>> given the sort of deficits the government is, has, and will
>>>>>>>>>> continue to produce.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or increase
>>>>>>>>>> any taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and they
> have
>>>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to spend
>>>>>>>>>> $3.81 Trillion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> existing
>>>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new debt)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on any
> new
>>>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any bonds sold
>>>>>>>>>> to the public to finance large government projects.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected officials.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they don't get
>>>>>>>>>> paid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources of
>>>>>>>>>> income.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the CBO
> the
>>>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts, and
>>>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion. Subtract the
>>>>>>>>> $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4 trillion.
> Am
>>>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially considering, as
>>>>>>>>> Ford correctly noted, even if the govt collected it they would
>>>>>>>>> spend it anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the GDP.
> If
>>>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to stop. My
>>>>>>> issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars on? Are
>>>>>>> these bills productive or are millions of dollars set aside to
> study
>>>>>>> how chickens mate?
>>>>>
>>>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out spending. We
>>> can
>>>>> do it again..
>>>>
>>>> The rich are already taxed.
>>>>
>>> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>
>> Many of the non-rich don't either.
>>
>>
>
> So?
>
> When Income tax was first instituded ONLY the rich paid that tax. The
> poor don't have money to pay taxes, but the rich do.

And now you are the rich.. so pay up sucker....

Subject: Re: Extending Trump Tax Cuts Would Add $4.6 Trillion to Deficit: CBO
From: Johnny
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On Wed, 15 May 2024 09:46:25 -0400
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

> "Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190...
> > Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
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> >
> >> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
> >>> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
> >>> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
> >>> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
> >>> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
> >>> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
> >>> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
> >>> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> >>> >>>>>>>>> they
> >>> have
> >>> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
> >>> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> existing
> >>> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt)
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
> >>> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>> new
> >>> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> >>> >>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
> >>> >>>>>>>>> projects.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
> >>> >>>>>>>>> officials.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> >>> >>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other
> >>> >>>>>>>>> sources of income.
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
> >>> >>>>>>>> CBO
> >>> the
> >>> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> >>> >>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> >>> >>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
> >>> >>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
> >>> Am
> >>> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
> >>> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
> >>> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
> >>> >>>>>>> GDP.
> >>> If
> >>> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> >>> >>>>>> stop. My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax
> >>> >>>>>> dollars on? Are these bills productive or are millions of
> >>> >>>>>> dollars set aside to
> >>> study
> >>> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> >>> >>>> spending. We
> >>> >> can
> >>> >>>> do it again..
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The rich are already taxed.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
> >>> >
> >>> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
> >>> than billionaire Trump?
> >>
> >> Really? You are scraping bottom.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Trump went for years without
> > paying any taxes. Did you ever do
> > that?
>
> Really? Produce your proof for any year you like, that Trump did not
> pay a single penny in tax.. for anything.
>
> Oh, let me guess, you're just full of shit.
>
>


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Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
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> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>
>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>
>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>
>>> Maybe they
>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>>> fair share for a change.
>>>
>>
>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>
> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they have
> the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
> everything free.
>
Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction. You rightards are
afraid you might have to share the costs and have to pay a little for the
benefits you get.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Radio Gnome <gong@radiognome.com> wrote in
> news:v208qi$6l2l$4@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/14/2024 1:43 PM, Jonathan Ball's dismay wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:02:18 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>>
>>> https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-inco
>>> me-tax-data-2023-update/
>>>
>>> The top 1 percentâ?Ts income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to
>>> 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose
>>> from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent. The top 50 percent of all
>>> taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal individual income taxes,
>>> while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.3 percent.
>>>
>>> The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
>>> highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percentâ?"more than eight
>>> times the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.
>>>
>>> In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income
>>> taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
>>> taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90
>>> percent paid $450 billion.
>>>
>>
>> This is the part where they re-frame the narrative from income to
>> wealth.
>>
>
> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.

No, they do creative accounting to prevent excessive taxable income.

There is a difference.

Oh, and that BTW is TOTALLY legal and ANYONE can do it.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>
>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>
>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>
> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.

Why? Do you don't have to?

So are you going to tell us how you are just a free loader, or rather a
wantabe freeloader?

>
>> Maybe they
>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your fair
>> share for a change.
>>
>
> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.

You're the one that wants to refuse to pay taxes.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
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>
>> In article <v20jbg$crt1$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>> > On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>> >> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no
>>> >> income.
>>> >
>>> > And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>
>>> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>
>> Why? I bet you support us paying off student loans too.
>
> Those students aren't rich and they'll be paying on those loans until
> they die - forget retirement.

Well maybe they should have decided whether they education they were paying
for was actually going to produce the income necessary to service what they
paid to get their degree....

But clearly being a college graduate doesn't mean you're smart.

Explains why so many of them are Democrats... want something for nothing and
then complains when that other person doesn't want to pay for it.

>>> > Maybe they
>>> > need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>>> > fair share for a change.
>>> >
>>>
>>> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>
>> How did you come to that? You wont say. Your name calling is typical
>> of a butthurt liberal.
>>
> You're a lying shill/

Second stock liberal rely when losing a debate.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20k0r$ap50$9@dont-email.me:
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>> On 5/14/2024 4:59 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>>
>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>
>>> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>
>> Nope. You want the benefits of govt you gotta have some skin in the
>> game.
>>
>>>> Maybe they
>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>>>> fair share for a change.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>
>> They employ you. No good deed goes unpunished does it, welcher?
>>
>>
> They pay substandard wages unless you're in a Union.

How do you determine what is substandard?

Is that just less than you think you should get for doing nothing?

I mean you've already admitted you want an income without having to pay your
taxes... so what's next.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:v219gs$l66f$5@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20k0r$ap50$9@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 4:59 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>>>
>>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>>
>>>> Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>>
>>> Nope. You want the benefits of govt you gotta have some skin in the
>>> game.
>>>
>>>>> Maybe they
>>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>>>>> fair share for a change.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>>
>>> They employ you. No good deed goes unpunished does it, welcher?
>>>
>>>
>> They pay substandard wages unless you're in a Union.
>>
> And they make 10 times (or more) from your labor than they pay you.

Do they?

Hmmm.. maybe you should employ yourself then, or maybe start your own
business.. If you go to California you can start by giving all your workers
$100/hr and still be making $100/hr for yourself for every employee.

So why aren't you rich?

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"Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>
>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>
>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>
>>> Maybe they
>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your fair
>>> share for a change.
>>>
>>
>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>
> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff?

Easy, they have this notion that as long as it's coming from the government
it's free..... while they complain about paying taxes to the government.

It's because they have
> the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
> everything free.

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"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <v20f4i$bp8t$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> Radio Gnome <gong@radiognome.com> wrote in
>> news:v208qi$6l2l$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>> > On 5/14/2024 1:43 PM, Jonathan Ball's dismay wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 14 May 2024 15:02:18 -0000 (UTC)
>> >> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> the rich don't pay any taxes.
>> >>
>> >> https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-inco
>> >> me-tax-data-2023-update/
>> >>
>> >> The top 1 percent�s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to
>> >> 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose
>> >> from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent. The top 50 percent of all
>> >> taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal individual income taxes,
>> >> while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.3 percent.
>> >>
>> >> The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
>> >> highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent�more than eight
>> >> times the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.
>> >>
>> >> In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income
>> >> taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
>> >> taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90
>> >> percent paid $450 billion.
>> >>
>> >
>> > This is the part where they re-frame the narrative from income to
>> > wealth.
>> >
>>
>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>
> It's called loopholes and everyone uses them.
^
who is intelligent

Which pretty much leaves our your rank n' file liberal Democrat.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
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>> In article <v20f4i$bp8t$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>
>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>
>> It's called loopholes and everyone uses them.
>>
>
> No, "everybody" do not use them - the rich bought the lawmakers to craft
> those loopholes just for them/the rich.

And yet anyone can use them.

What? Are you saying you're too stupid to use what in the law?

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fbh$ap50$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 5/14/2024 3:41 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>
>>> When Income tax was first instituded ONLY the rich paid that tax. The
>>> poor don't have money to pay taxes, but the rich do.
>>
>> Good, you admit the rich are paying the taxes.
>
> NO. In the PAST they paid taxes,

And they still do.

>now many pay none at all,

Cite

> and most don't
> pay what they owe.

"The IRS Whistleblower Office pays monetary awards to eligible individuals
whose information is used by the IRS. The award percentage depends on
several factors, but generally falls between 15 and 30 percent of the
proceeds collected and attributable to the whistleblower's information."

So what are you waiting for? All you have to do is provide your information
showing they aren't paying what they owe and you could become rich.

>> Maybe instead of reviling
>> them you should be revering them for not only carrying their load, but
>> also yours.
>>
>
> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.

And without a valid response, Baxter results to lame childish attempts at
insult.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
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>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>
>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>
>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
>> carry your burden for you.
>>
>
> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.

Do you have proof of that?

You realize the IRS will pay you a percentage of any taxes collected if you
can provide them such evidence that results in the collection of taxes owed?

So what are you waiting for?

Oh.. that's right.. actual evidence for your claims.

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"Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
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> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:v20tgc$f3ai$5@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 2024-05-14, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/14/2024 5:04 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>>>>>>>>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion per year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bonds sold to the public to finance large government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get paid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of income.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CBO
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subtract the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have $26.4 trillion.
>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GDP.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>>>>>>>>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
>>>>>>>>>>>> set aside to
>>>>>> study
>>>>>>>>>>>> how chickens mate?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
>>>>>>>>>> spending. We
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> do it again..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The rich are already taxed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many of the non-rich don't either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>>>>>> than billionaire Trump?
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? You are scraping bottom.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's a real question. tRump claims to be a billionaire yet picks
>>>> your pocket and cheats on taxes.
>>>
>>> Nope, he used the very tax code that Biden, over his 2000+ years in
>>> govt, has created.
>>
>> Yep.
>> The rich use the loopholes to their advantage. I am against that but
>> it's the current system. Somebody making 40k a year does not have that
>> ability.
>
>
> The rich MAKE the loopholes, the
> rich use the loopholes, and you really
> think they "apply across the board"?


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"Mitchell Holman" <noemail@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66441ea7$1$7164
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <XnsB172D7EED96F0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:6643c6af$0$3711196$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>> > In article <XnsB172867C8C708629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vv0t$6l2l$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >>
>>> >> > On 5/14/2024 11:02 AM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >> >> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v1vml7$5qr6$2@dont-email.me:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> On 5/13/2024 6:52 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >> >>>> news:66428aac$0$2363145$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>> In article <6642836f$0$6559$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> >> >>>>> "Charlie Glock"@localhost.com says...
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> On 2024-05-13, Scout
>>> >> >>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>>>>> news:v1o9ok$24n0i$1@dont-email.me...
>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2024 8:05 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> "Ford Prefect" <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> news:v1m2r4$1hjhg$3@dont-email.me...
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 5:02 PM, spaminator wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ford Prefect <hhgttg@galaxy.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> This one again?
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's assume what the CBO says is correct (you can't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> because it doesn't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> account for the increased tax receipts that occur
> under
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> tax cuts), the IRS would have collected $4.6 billion
> per
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> year (4.6B/year * 10 years = 4.6T).
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ROFL. Your arithmetic skills are broke. Back to 3rd
> grade
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> What's broke? Or were you educated at a public school?
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 4.6B/year * 10 years = 46B
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the other hand, lets point out that difference is
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> irrelevant given the sort of deficits the government is,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> has, and will continue to produce.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> We need to eliminate the power of government to add or
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> increase any taxes.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> They get 15% of the GDP (federal, state and local) and
> they
>>> >> have
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> to live within their means like everyone else.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Currently that would allow all levels of government to
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> spend $3.81 Trillion.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Another 5% would be applied directly to paying down the
>>> >> existing
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> state and national debts (and would not apply to new
> debt)
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FIRST budgetary item would be to pay the interest on
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> any
>>> >> new
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> debt and paying off 5% of the principle of such debt.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The Secondary budget item would be to service of any
> bonds
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> sold to the public to finance large government projects.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The FINAL budget item would be pay for the elected
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> officials.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> In short, if the government is going into debt.. they
> don't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> get paid.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Further they are prohibited from having any other sources
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> of income.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Let's take it even another step further. According to the
>>> >> >>>>>>>> CBO
>>> >> the
>>> >> >>>>>>>> total deficts from the beginning of the Trump tax cuts,
> and
>>> >> >>>>>>>> extending them through 2033, is about $31 trillion.
> Subtract
>>> >> >>>>>>>> the $4.6 trillion Trump tax cuts and you still have $26.4
>>> >> >>>>>>>> trillion.
>>> >> Am
>>> >> >>>>>>>> I supposed to feel better about this? Especially
>>> >> >>>>>>>> considering, as Ford correctly noted, even if the govt
>>> >> >>>>>>>> collected it they would spend it anyway.
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> As I said limit government spending to a percentage of the
>>> >> >>>>>>> GDP.
>>> >> If
>>> >> >>>>>>> officials exceed those limits there are consequences.
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Both parties spend like drunken sailors and it needs to
> stop.
>>> >> >>>>>> My issue is more of a what are they spending my tax dollars
>>> >> >>>>>> on? Are these bills productive or are millions of dollars
> set
>>> >> >>>>>> aside to
>>> >> study
>>> >> >>>>>> how chickens mate?
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> In the 50's and 60's we taxed the rich to pay for out
> spending.
>>> >> >>>> We
>>> >> >> can
>>> >> >>>> do it again..
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> The rich are already taxed.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >> Many of the rich don't pay any taxes.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Many of the non-rich don't either.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you proud of paying more in taxes
>>> >> than billionaire Trump?
>>> >
>>> > Really? You are scraping bottom.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Trump went for years without
>>> paying any taxes. Did you ever do
>>> that?
>>
>> What does that have to do with anything?
>
>
> You pay taxes so Trump doesn't have to.


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Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v228t8$ruev$2@dont-email.me:

> On 5/14/2024 11:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20jul$ap50$8@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2024 4:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>> So you're a toady sucking rich fuck's ass.
>>>
>>> No, I'm thanking them for carrying the load that welchers like you
>>> refuse to contribute to, all the while whining about the people that
>>> carry your burden for you.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, you're sucking rich ass. - those uber rich are not carrying
>> anyone's burden - they're not even paying the taxes they owe.
Meanwhile
>> they steal from your pocket - they're getting the intrest money you're
>> paying on the National Debt.
>
> The top 1% paid 46% of the bill.
> The top 5% paid 66% of the bill.
>
> That is exactly carrying the burden.
>

And since they make 10,000% of the money they are NOT paying their fair
share. It's the Rich that demand free stuff.

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Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote in news:XnsB17355C012EEF629555@
185.151.15.160:

> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:v20tig$f3ai$6@dont-email.me:
>

>> Did Biden pay taxes on the millions of bribes he received from foreign
>> countries?
>>
>
> What bribes?
>
Meanwhile tRump is actively soliciting bribes.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
> news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>>
>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>
>>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>>
>>>> Maybe they
>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>>>> fair share for a change.
>>>>
>>>
>>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>
>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they have
>> the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
>> everything free.
>>
> Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction. You rightards are
> afraid you might have to share the costs and have to pay a little for the
> benefits you get.

How do I get the benefits that go to someone else?

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On Tue, 14 May 2024 19:41:49 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> The poor don't have money to pay taxes, but the rich do.

Eat them alive then, just as England did with its rock stars, you
parasitic leftard.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

Subject: Re: Extending Trump Tax Cuts Would Add $4.6 Trillion to Deficit: CBO
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On Tue, 14 May 2024 19:47:30 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.

The results:

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
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highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

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On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:57:03 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> and most don't pay what they owe.
Yet somehow:

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
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paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

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On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> They own you.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

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paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

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On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
>news:gg094jlah98odt6u8ann64rapjbm1ail2f@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 14 May 2024 20:59:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
>> <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:v20fdo$ap50$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2024 3:47 PM, Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And the rich do creative accounting to pretend they have no income.
>>>>
>>>> And theys till foot the overwhelming majority of the burden.
>>>
>>>Most? The rich should be paying ALL of it.
>>>
>>>> Maybe they
>>>> need better accountants to get people like you to start paying your
>>>> fair share for a change.
>>>>
>>>
>>>They own you. Go lick the shit of their asshole, toad.
>>
>> Why do leftists think they deserve free stuff? It's because they have
>> the intellectual capability of a six year old, and a six year old gets
>> everything free.
>>
>Oh, yeah, we've heard this song since Reconstruction.

What? That you immature leftists want free stuff? No, I don;'t think
were any lefttists back than.

> You rightards are
>afraid you might have to share the costs and have to pay a little for the
>benefits you get.

Actually, rich people already pay most of the federal income taxes.

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On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:18:55 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> And they make 10 times

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $548,336 and above) paid the
highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

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On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:17:48 -0000 (UTC)
Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

> They pay

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 20.1 percent in 2019 to 22.2 percent in 2020 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 38.8 percent to 42.3 percent.
The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal
individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining
2.3 percent.

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highest average income tax rate of 25.99 percent—more than eight times
the rate faced by the bottom half of taxpayers.

In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes
paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of
taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent
paid $450 billion.

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