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Subject: Re: The 3/5 clause was based on the FICTION that slaves were some fraction of a person
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On 12/5/2023 11:30 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 11:02:59 -0800, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/5/2023 10:36 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 07:48:32 -0800, OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/5/2023 3:16 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 05:07:19 -0600, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/5/23 00:40, Paul Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>> But the slavers didn't consider slaves to be persons — that is, human —
>>>>>>> *at all*. The slavers considered slaves to be property — period. They
>>>>>>> actually knew better, and that's why they wanted slaves to be counted as
>>>>>>> 3/5 of a person for apportionment purposes only, but apart from that,
>>>>>>> they saw slaves as chattel property — *only*. In the view of filthy
>>>>>>> southern slavers, slaves had no rights or interests deserving of state
>>>>>>> protection, any more than a mule or a barn had. Filthy southern slavers
>>>>>>> did not see slaves as human in a legal context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The slave states wanted slaves fully counted in a cynical attempt to
>>>>>> garner as much power in the new government as possible. The free states
>>>>>> didn't want slaves counted at all. The 3/5th compromise was just that, a
>>>>>> compromise without which the Constitution would likely never have been
>>>>>> approved. Had the Constitution not been approved, the USA would likely
>>>>>> not have survived far into the 19th century.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it was the slave states that wanted slaved to fully counted and
>>>>> the non-slave states that wanted them to not be counted at all.
>>>>> Exactly opposite of
>>>>
>>>> *Other than* for apportionment purposes, the slavers didn't consider slaves to
>>>> be persons. They were property.
>>>
>>> You have a perfect right to believe that.
>>
>> I believe it because it is an irrefutable fact.
>
>
> You keep saying that as if you think I care what you believe.

You do care, which is why you keep coming back and stating your falsehoods.
You've tried this "I don't care" gag before, and it always fails.

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