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o Re: Amen; If one has not been Born Again, then they are not a Christian.Michael Christ

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Subject: Re: Amen; If one has not been Born Again, then they are not a Christian.
From: Michael Christ
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On 12/05/2024 11:19 pm, ChristRose wrote:
> ========================
> On Sat, 11 May 2024 22:55:07 -0700,
> Article:<0001HW.2BF0913B002A55F6305BCC38F@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Robert wrote:
> ========================
> ChristRose wrote:
>>> I asked you what your source is for
>>> claiming that nearly everyone on earth
>>> will be dead in 10 years. You have yet
>>> to produce 1 convincing statement from
>>> Scripture. Instead, ever since, you have
>>> been trying to change the subject and
>>> turn the tables, by making endless,
>>> idiotic, hypocritical, unscriptural and
>>> oft-refuted attacks on single words like
>>> "exegesis".
>>
>> What part of this did you not understand. This was my first response to your
>> arrogant request demanding the subject that YOU brought up, not me.
>
>
> Arrogant question? You claimed to the
> effect most people will be dead in 10
> years. I simply asked, "source?". Are
> you suggesting it's wrong to even
> question your source?

Ahh, the sinner perfectionist "ChristRose" never stops trying to make
himself righteous. When he is sure he is right, he locks on like a dog
with a juicy bone! :-).

What a potpourri of confusion it is with sinful religious people walking
in the vanity of their minds and the deceitful wickedness of their hearts.

They never listen, never hear, and never want to hear what God is saying
so that they could be healed.

Michael Christ

You think you
> should get to make prophetic
> predictions, without even being
> questioned about it? That's _your_
> arrogance. One can always tell what
> you're guilty of. It's the first thing
> you accuse others of doing <snicker>.
>
>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I am not into “solid exegesis”. I’d much rather speak
>>>>>>>> from the heart
>
>
> At least you admit it. What this means
> is you're not into drawing your
> understanding of the Bible out of the
> text of the Bible, but would rather
> listen to what your heart is telling
> you.
>
>
>> Backtrack and see that I stated clearly by feelings on the subject. And
>> simply to boot. You went off on a rant that I am no longer interested in.
>> Look up the scriptures from which I had understanding and make it your own.
>> Bye.
>
>
> No, you went off on a rant, in which
> instead of just answering the simple
> question by giving your source, you
> launched an idiotic assault on the word
> "exegesis".
>
> This is why I say that you lack the
> integrity to carry on an honest
> conversation. You're best when you're
> talking to someone who doesn't
> understand or who opposes the Scripture.
> When someone understands them and calls
> you out on your doctrine, you become a
> complete tool, who can't answer simple
> questions about the Bible, or admit even
> simple, non-consequential mistakes.
>
> Let me answer the question for you. You
> don't know when Christ will return. He
> said no man knows that day or hour. He
> could come at any time for the church (1
> Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5; John 14). It
> could be today. It could be in 10 years.
> It could be 100 years. There is no
> Scripture by which you can deduce that
> it must be 10 years. Until the man of
> sin sets himself up in the temple
> (Daniel. 9; 2 Thessalonians 2:1ff.),
> there will be no time markers indicating
> at what time Christ will return.
>
> You are arrogantly reading your own
> speculation into the Bible out of your
> own heart, just like Harold Camping used
> to do. What was the result of that? The
> people who listened to him were spending
> all their savings like there was no
> tomorrow. Then huge disappointment.
>
> Think I'm wrong about that? Then go
> ahead and show your Bible source for
> concluding it will be in 10 years. You
> won't. You can't handle the truth.
>
>
> --
> Have you heard the good news Christ died
> for our sins (†), and God raised Him
> from the dead?
>
> That Christ died for our sins shows
> we're sinners who deserve the death
> penalty. That God raised Him from the
> dead shows Christ's death satisfied
> God's righteous demands against our sin
> (Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
> God can now remain just, while forgiving
> you of your sins, and saving you from
> eternal damnation.

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.


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