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Subject: Drugs Ought To Be Marketed As Medicine And Sold Out Of Sight On Demand - At The Likes Of Pharmacies, With All Kinds Of Labeling
From: Intelligent Party
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Subject: Drugs Ought To Be Marketed As Medicine And Sold Out Of Sight On
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Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine and sold out of sight on demand,
at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.

Shutting down our Pharmacies (Rite Aid) for the drug war, is criminal.

There would be no Opioid crisis if Codeine were sold as it was, at Rite
Aid. No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today, which
your body turns into Morphine. Codeine is already as bad for you as
liquor, which is the devil's drug. No one would use Morphine,
Oxycontin, Heroin, or Fentanyl, which are all more potent, than Codeine,
in order. No alcoholic, today, drinks 75%-99% alcohol, even though it
is widely available and stocked at any liquor store. If one outlawed
alcohol today, 99% alcohol is almost ALL that would be for sale, and
alcoholics would be using only 99%. This is why there's an Opoid
Pandemic. No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today,
which your body turns into Morphine.

Christians, supposedly passed the 18th Amendment, which banned the
manufacture of alcohol, yet Jesus turned water into wine. Jesus would
turn flour into cocaine today, and drink wine in public today, believe
me you.

Jesus is not under your laws, and neither are we. You are under no laws
but God's. What the U.S. is, is called "criminal oppression."

A nation of laws, is a nation of wrongs. I SAY, the U.S. is a nation of
_rights_, and there is no wrong unless there is a right violated.

All prohibition is wrongful condemnation. Abortion. Guns. Sexuality.
Drugs. Use of the Public Lands. All prohibition is akin to persecuting
witchcraft. All prohibition is witch killing. All prohibition is
persecution of a minority interest, which is genocide. All prohibition
is wrongful contempt. All prohibition is hate crime. All prohibition
is prison. Politicians practicing prohibition, are broken arrows, at
war on the American people. The war on drugs, is war on the people, and
treason. It doesn't matter how many votes, the politicians get. America
is for ALL people, however disparate their interests might be. Judging
people who are different than you, is prejudice.

"The cause of freedom is not the cause of a race or sect, a party or a
class——it is the cause of humankind, the very birthright of humanity."
- Anna Julia Cooper,
- On all U.S. Passports!

The U.S. criminal justice system has not risen to the lofty level of "an
eye for an eye," much less the ministry of forgiveness. The U.S.
criminal justice system, is vengeance on the innocent, justifying itself
by doctrine. We are not justified by doctrine, but by truth. An eye
for an eye, and the whole world would be FREE, since the government
maintains a corner on vengeance! Vengeance is crime, and all it can
serve, is to make a lie not persist perpetrated by the unrepentant, (and
even more so, what if you're just negative for nothing). Why would
vengeance be legal for a government? It is not. Forgiveness, lifts the
darkness, reasserts your will, and lets you look upon a world of light.
This world of light, this circle of brightness, is the real world, where
guilt meets with forgiveness.

God is love and light, and within, and one with you. And he does love
you, and everyone your country has killed, as well as those who killed them.

"For Satan accuses our brethren before our God day and night."
Revelations 12:10

Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine, and sold out of sight on demand,
at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.

This means all drugs, to all ages on demand, without prescription. For
government imposed age discrimination is crime. With more labeling
information, and recommendations how to use/not use, warnings,
degree/level danger of the drug clearly specified. People who can buy,
can read.

Also, people need to be informed, to use the less potent drugs. They're
not intelligent without greater information. You don't want to inhale
nor inject potent drugs. The Heroin, Crack, Crystal Meth, etc. should
point people to the less potent varieties: Codeine, Cocaine, Speed,
respectively. Identifying, and describing, the potency differences.
However, this can all become conventional wisdom, and easily understood
by everyone, as 151 RUM is. 151 RUM DOES say it's 75% alcohol on the
bottle. No Heroin or Crack dealer ever said CRAP! ...they just want to
sell you something.

We have a nation of 165 million alcohol users, and of those, 25 million
alcohol ABUSERS (who drink more than 10 drinks per day). We don't want
to market drugs as recreation like alcohol. Furthermore, anyone using
liquor, or any other potent drug, more than two days per week, is going
to become an alcoholic/addict and end up in AA/NA. For every day you
use a drug, don't use it for three. The label should say as much. Most
sane partiers party twice per month, while twice per week is merely the
max on the same drug. If you use more, as a chronic user, quit for two
months, right now, to prove you're in control, and then go back to, "for
every day you use, don't use for three," only if you must. Even better,
if you do drink, limit yourself to no more than two drinks, and don't
get trashed. You will have a better time. Make 2x2 your max. Even the
high never gets better than the first drink. You don't want to inject,
nor inhale, potent drugs, _at all_. Drugs use up all your good feelings
at once, or numb your bad feelings. Doing alcohol or drugs, is like
riding roller coasters, and who rides roller coasters more than a few
times per year - the marginal benefit diminishes after the first few
times, period. Drugs are a social, and a mental impediment, and don't
help you "get the girl/guy." Drunk people are socially repulsive. Try
drinking water when you socialize, and get a good night's sleep. All
this, and it is 100% your right to drink and be drunk in public at all
ages. 70% of college students drink at age 18, proving it is legal, and
the government is a crime. Government imposed age discrimination is a
crime, and we do not accept erroneous laws.

Boneheads merely said "put cigarettes behind the counter," so you have
to ask for them. But they put them behind the checkout counter, and now
they exist as an impulse item. I'm saying, put them out of sight, no
one cares if you have to ask for them, it doesn't temper anything, it's
just slightly more annoying. It should be, behind a CURTAIN, or through
a separate entrance. I don't smoke cigarettes. Put more warnings on
them, it's crime to sell them as a recreational item, as it's crime to
sell snake oil as a cure for cancer. You can't lie about what you're
selling. They're just not fit for human consumption. However, if you
choose to use them for human consumption, it is better to do so in this
manner...
_The label should say so much as that_. Even so, you have a RIGHT to
smoke tobacco in public all day (if you're not blowing it in someone's
face, sitting in the same place), and we take offense at all these
prohibitions of our lawful use of our public property and liberty, and
you likewise have a right to huff glue, as it's your body, your glue,
your right to huff it, even if you're stupid if you do so. You're not
guilty by doctrine. But people persecuting you by doctrine _are_ guilty
by fact, so far as right and wrong and guilt go. Believing in guilt is
not right, but this doesn't give a pass to moral relativism. There is
truth and error. There is forgiveness for the repentant, and those who
do not forgive the repentant _are_ guilty. The criminal justice system
should be about redemption, not degradation. We should all have firm
faith and belief that criminals have degraded themselves sufficiently by
*committing* the crime, when a true crime, as judged by legal SCIENCE,
and God, and according to the TRUTH. Criminals just need to recognize
what they did was crime - when it's real crime, not drug trafficking,
and be redeemed from their victimization of others. Not further
degraded, as they've already degraded themselves completely through
serial rape or whatnot. (But this type of criminal, only constitutes
less than 15% of the "justice" system). It's apparently the worry of
*their* belief in *their* activities that fuels the vengeance system.

Drugs cost your body the same no matter how rich you are. Employed now,
and think you have time and money so you can go out drinking? Cost on
your body is still the same. Multi-millionaire, so you think you can
afford to smoke Meth now? Cost on your body is still the same. To
quote "Top Gun," "your ego's writing checks, your body can't cash."
Don't be a bonehead, life is about Science, Art, and Friends. In other
words, Work and Friends. Everything's enrichment or enjoyment.
Enrichment increases happiness forever. Do some work and be productive,
and be richer for it today.

As for drugs, as Nancy Reagan said, "Just say no." And fuck the U.S.
criminal justice system.


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Subject: Re: Drugs Ought To Be Marketed As Medicine And Sold Out Of Sight On Demand - At The Likes Of Pharmacies, With All Kinds Of Labeling
From: kazu
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Intelligent Party wrote:
> Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine and sold out of sight on
> demand, at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.

i kinda agree... i think one of the scandinavian countries tried
that, right? they legalized drugs and the rate of overdose and
drug use reduced?

> There would be no Opioid crisis if Codeine were sold as it was,
> at Rite Aid.  No one would use any opiate more potent than
> Codeine, today, which your body turns into Morphine.  Codeine is
> already as bad for you as liquor, which is the devil's drug.  No
> one would use Morphine, Oxycontin, Heroin, or Fentanyl, which are
> all more potent, than Codeine, in order.  No alcoholic, today,
> drinks 75%-99% alcohol, even though it is widely available and
> stocked at any liquor store.  If one outlawed alcohol today, 99%
> alcohol is almost ALL that would be for sale, and alcoholics
> would be using only 99%.  This is why there's an Opoid Pandemic.
> No one would use any opiate more potent than Codeine, today,
> which your body turns into Morphine.

idk, codeine tolerance is gained in a week or so?? then you have
more and more codeine until even that is not good enough? so you
move up the ladder.

> All prohibition is wrongful condemnation.  Abortion.  Guns.
> Sexuality. Drugs.  Use of the Public Lands.  All prohibition is
> akin to persecuting witchcraft.  All prohibition is witch
> killing.  All prohibition is persecution of a minority interest,
> which is genocide.  All prohibition is wrongful contempt.  All
> prohibition is hate crime.  All prohibition is prison.
> Politicians practicing prohibition, are broken arrows, at war on
> the American people.  The war on drugs, is war on the people, and
> treason.  It doesn't matter how many votes, the politicians get.
> America is for ALL people, however disparate their interests
> might be. Judging people who are different than you, is prejudice.
>

i dont agree with prohibition either, all drugs should be legalized.

> This means all drugs, to all ages on demand, without
> prescription.  For government imposed age discrimination is
> crime.  With more labeling information, and recommendations how
> to use/not use, warnings, degree/level danger of the drug clearly
> specified.  People who can buy, can read.

age restriction is a must, now what age is best to restrict
access? that is another matter.

> Also, people need to be informed, to use the less potent drugs.
> They're not intelligent without greater information.  You don't
> want to inhale nor inject potent drugs.  The Heroin, Crack,
> Crystal Meth, etc. should point people to the less potent
> varieties: Codeine, Cocaine, Speed, respectively.  Identifying,
> and describing, the potency differences. However, this can all
> become conventional wisdom, and easily understood by everyone, as
> 151 RUM is.  151 RUM DOES say it's 75% alcohol on the bottle.  No
> Heroin or Crack dealer ever said CRAP!  ...they just want to sell
> you something.

drugs are a different beast than alcohol. i dont think the same
logic applies. but both take you to the same place, fucked up hell.

>
> We have a nation of 165 million alcohol users, and of those, 25
> million alcohol ABUSERS (who drink more than 10 drinks per day).
> We don't want to market drugs as recreation like alcohol.
> Furthermore, anyone using liquor, or any other potent drug, more
> than two days per week, is going to become an alcoholic/addict
> and end up in AA/NA.  For every day you use a drug, don't use it
> for three.  The label should say as much.  Most sane partiers
> party twice per month, while twice per week is merely the max on
> the same drug.  If you use more, as a chronic user, quit for two
> months, right now, to prove you're in control, and then go back
> to, "for every day you use, don't use for three," only if you
> must.  Even better, if you do drink, limit yourself to no more
> than two drinks, and don't get trashed.  You will have a better
> time.  Make 2x2 your max.  Even the high never gets better than
> the first drink.  You don't want to inject, nor inhale, potent
> drugs, _at all_.  Drugs use up all your good feelings at once, or
> numb your bad feelings.  Doing alcohol or drugs, is like riding
> roller coasters, and who rides roller coasters more than a few
> times per year - the marginal benefit diminishes after the first
> few times, period.  Drugs are a social, and a mental impediment,
> and don't help you "get the girl/guy."  Drunk people are socially
> repulsive.  Try drinking water when you socialize, and get a good
> night's sleep.  All this, and it is 100% your right to drink and
> be drunk in public at all ages.  70% of college students drink at
> age 18, proving it is legal, and the government is a crime.
> Government imposed age discrimination is a crime, and we do not
> accept erroneous laws.
>
>
> Boneheads merely said "put cigarettes behind the counter," so you
> have to ask for them.  But they put them behind the checkout
> counter, and now they exist as an impulse item.  I'm saying, put
> them out of sight, no one cares if you have to ask for them, it
> doesn't temper anything, it's just slightly more annoying.  It
> should be, behind a CURTAIN, or through a separate entrance.  I
> don't smoke cigarettes.  Put more warnings on them, it's crime to
> sell them as a recreational item, as it's crime to sell snake oil
> as a cure for cancer.  You can't lie about what you're selling.
> They're just not fit for human consumption. However, if you
> choose to use them for human consumption, it is better to do so
> in this manner...
> _The label should say so much as that_.  Even so, you have a
> RIGHT to smoke tobacco in public all day (if you're not blowing
> it in someone's face, sitting in the same place), and we take
> offense at all these prohibitions of our lawful use of our public
> property and liberty, and you likewise have a right to huff glue,
> as it's your body, your glue, your right to huff it, even if
> you're stupid if you do so.  You're not guilty by doctrine.  But
> people persecuting you by doctrine _are_ guilty by fact, so far
> as right and wrong and guilt go.  Believing in guilt is not
> right, but this doesn't give a pass to moral relativism.  There
> is truth and error.  There is forgiveness for the repentant, and
> those who do not forgive the repentant _are_ guilty.  The
> criminal justice system should be about redemption, not
> degradation.  We should all have firm faith and belief that
> criminals have degraded themselves sufficiently by *committing*
> the crime, when a true crime, as judged by legal SCIENCE, and
> God, and according to the TRUTH.  Criminals just need to
> recognize what they did was crime - when it's real crime, not
> drug trafficking, and be redeemed from their victimization of
> others.  Not further degraded, as they've already degraded
> themselves completely through serial rape or whatnot.  (But this
> type of criminal, only constitutes less than 15% of the "justice"
> system).  It's apparently the worry of *their* belief in *their*
> activities that fuels the vengeance system.
>
> Drugs cost your body the same no matter how rich you are.
> Employed now, and think you have time and money so you can go out
> drinking?  Cost on your body is still the same.
> Multi-millionaire, so you think you can afford to smoke Meth
> now?  Cost on your body is still the same.  To quote "Top Gun,"
> "your ego's writing checks, your body can't cash." Don't be a
> bonehead, life is about Science, Art, and Friends.  In other
> words, Work and Friends.  Everything's enrichment or enjoyment.
> Enrichment increases happiness forever.  Do some work and be
> productive, and be richer for it today.
>
> As for drugs, as Nancy Reagan said, "Just say no."  And fuck the
> U.S. criminal justice system.
>
> Drugs ought to be marketed as medicine, and sold out of sight on
> demand, at the likes of Pharmacies, with all kinds of labeling.
>
>

sometimes i want to see what these aa/na meetings are like, is it
just like fight club, where they sit around talking about their
experiences?

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