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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Ken
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From: katt@gmail.com (Ken)
Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
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On 10/29/2024 7:47 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> news:671fe46f$0$3068676$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> In article <o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message >
>>> news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>>> >> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> >>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>
>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>> >>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, >>>>> >>>
>>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>> >>>>> >>> says...
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>  >>>> Shit-4-
>>> >>>>> Braincell back
>>> >>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>> >>>>> >>>> as
>>> >>>>> >>>>  >>>>
>>> >>>>> "Lamey," but
>>> >>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a >>>>> >>>>
>>> fucking >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> loser.
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza >>>>> >>>>>
>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>>> >>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>> prisons there
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> longer
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>> more prisons and
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-
>>> justice-
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> gimmick
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> to fill up
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the
>>> >>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply >>>>>
>>> >>>> wrong.
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.
>>> >>>>> >>  >> Point >>
>>> >>>>> is that
>>> >>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm >>>>> >
>>> pretty >  >
>>> >>>>> sure
>>> >>>>> one or
>>> >>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is >>>>> >
>>> those > >
>>> >>>>> deaths
>>> >>>>> that
>>> >>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, >>>>>
>>> but no
>>> >>>>> one was
>>> >>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If
>>> >>>>> you think
>>> >>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out >>>>>
>>> your
>>> >>>>> evidence.
>>> >>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank
>>> >>>>> >> for >>
>>> >>>>> >> 5K
>>> >>>>> some 5
>>> >>>>> >> years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the >>>>>
>>> despotic
>>> >>>>> state
>>> >>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a
>>> >>>>> state that
>>> >>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> No they don't.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just >>>>>
>>> > for >
>>> >>>>> robbing a bank
>>> >>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the >>>>> >
>>> money.
>>> >>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in >>>>>
>>> the New York
>>> >>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of >>>>>
>>> $5,000. No one
>>> >>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he >>>>>
>>> was given
>>> >>>>> a 60
>>> >>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And >>>>>
>>> yes, a huge
>>> >>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole
>>> >>>>> states.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>>> >>
>>> >> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>>> >
>>> > "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank >
>>> robbery
>>> > in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a half; >
>>> Robert
>>> > was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60 years."
>>> >
>>> > https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
>>> > apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>>> >
>>> > I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the >
>>> case, and
>>> > as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little >
>>> consequence.
>>> >
>>> > Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while > you
>>> are
>>> > almost never right?
>>> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet ? at
>>> least two decades ? that you have been right, scooter.
>>
>> He slapped you silly.


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On 10/29/2024 7:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, >>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>> >>> says...
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Shit-4-
>>>>>>> Braincell back
>>>>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted >>>>
>>>>>>> as >>>>
>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>>>>> >>>>  >>>>  loser.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza >>>>>
>>>>>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> prisons there
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> longer the
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more prisons and
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-
>>>>>>> justice-
>>>>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another >>>>>>
>>>>>>> gimmick to fill up
>>>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply >>>> wrong.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. >> >>
>>>>>>> Point >>
>>>>>>> is that
>>>>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm > pretty
>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> one or
>>>>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those >  > >
>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, but no
>>>>>>> one was
>>>>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If you
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out your
>>>>>>> evidence.
>>>>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank >>
>>>>>>> for >>  5K
>>>>>>> some 5
>>>>>>> >> years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the
>>>>>>> despotic state
>>>>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No they don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for >  >
>>>>>>> robbing a bank
>>>>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the > money.
>>>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>>>>>> York
>>>>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of $5,000. No
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he was
>>>>>>> given a 60
>>>>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And yes, a huge
>>>>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>>>>
>>>> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>>>
>>> "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank
>>> robbery in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a
>>> half; Robert was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60
>>> years."
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
>>> apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>>>
>>> I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the case,
>>> and as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little
>>> consequence.
>>>
>>> Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you are
>>> almost never right?
>>
>> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet — at >> least two decades — that you have been right, scooter.
>
> Rudy acknowledges that my knowledge and logic are superior to his.


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On 10/29/2024 7:43 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-
>>>>>>>>>> Braincell back
>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-
>>>>>>>>>>>> justice- reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. Point is
>>>>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
>>>>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bank robbery?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>>>
>>> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>>
>> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took
>> the bait, scooter.
>>
>> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of
>> proportion to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking
>> about that specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.
>
> Well, first of all you would have to show that is the case.

The course of the thread proves that it is the case, scooter.

> So what sentencing guidelines did the judge ignored [sic] in passing the sentence he did?

He didn't "ignored" any sentencing guidelines, scooter. That's the entire point.
Shithole red states like Louisiana have manifestly unjust sentencing guidelines.
It is a huge part of what makes them shitholes.

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On 10/29/2024 7:39 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zNPTO.587227$1m96.72519@fx15.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 7:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BLOSO.207008$15a6.109985@fx12.iad...
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:671a9c57$0$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>> In article <XnsB21583875F590629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>>> > tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    By "red tape" you mean the Constitution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh please.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious where the Constitution says invaders
>>>>
>>>> No "invaders," scooter.
>>
>> <crickets>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Due Process Clause applies to all persons within the
>>>>>>> United States, including aliens, whether their presence is
>>>>>>> lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."
>>>>>>> The US Supreme Court, Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)
>>>>>>> <http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/99-7791.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great..
>>>>> Says,[Hartung comma] nothing about us not removing them
>>>>
>>>> It specifies you can't just round up people you think don't belong here and
>>>> deport them, scooter. That's what it says.
>>>
>>> Then we have no problem rounding up and deporting those we know don't belong
>>> here.
>>
>> You don't know who does and does not belong here
>
> Sure I do.

You don't.

>
> Indeed,

Stupid bullshit scooterism again:

"Actually..." [empty padding]
"Further..." [empty padding]
"Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
"And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
before fleeing]
"On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
"And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
"Heck..." [empty padding]
"Well..." [empty padding]
"After all..." [empty padding]
"In fact..." [empty padding]
"Indeed..." [empty padding]
"I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
acknowledgment]
"So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
*never* said, i.e. a straw man]
"TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man]
"Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
— a straw man]
"Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
Constitution anyway]
"it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
"its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
"where" [he means "were"]
"were" [he means "where"]
"creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]

>
>> scooter, and being a complete fucking idiot, *you* never will know.
>
> And yet,

See list of scooterisms above.

> I know such much more than you..

If I drank two bottles of tequila and had a piece of iron rebar stuck in my
head, I'd still be both smarter and more intelligent than you. You're a fucking
idiot, scooter, and everyone knows it.

>
>> Here's a big hint for you, you stupid fascist KKK fuckwit: detaining brown-
>> skinned people *only* because they "look foreign" and demanding to see proof
>> of legal status in the country is not allowed, scooter.
>
> Never said it was.

Yes, you did, scooter. That's exactly what you said back when the courts
bitch-slapped Joe Arpaio for racial profiling and before Trump immorally
pardoned him. And no, you don't get a "cite."

>> That's why Joe Arpaio is now a felon, scooter. That's what he was doing. He
>> had no reasonable suspicion to justify detaining them, scooter.
>
> Well, I'm not Joe, so really doesn't apply.

You defended his illegal stops, scooter.

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On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>> > says...
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>> >  >> >
>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>>>>>> >>  >> >>
>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>
>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
>>>>>>>>> >>     All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
>>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>
>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>
>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>
> Your problem,


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On 10/29/2024 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1OPTO.587228$1m96.224920@fx15.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless > > round
>>>>>>> > of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you
>>>>>>> > have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and
>>>>>>> > the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
>>>>>>> > during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     It is precisely those "endless rounds
>>>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
>>>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish that.
>>>>
>>>> It does, scooter.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't.
>>
>> Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.
>
> Stomp your little feet and scream in impotence.. the simple fact is your link
> does NOT establish what you think it does

It does, scooter. The claim, from Mitch Holman, was:

Funny that the most active death penalty state
in the country - Texas - also leads the country
in DNA exonerations of inmates on death row.

The link, which you unethically erased from the thread but which I easily found
despite your juvenile vandalism:

https://www.johntfloyd.com/texas-harris-country-lead-in-exonerations-and-wrongful-convictions/

has as its headline:

Texas, Harris County Lead Country in Exonerations and Wrongful Convictions

The link supports the claim, you fascist KKK swine and drunken Virginia camper.
You lose again.

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In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>
> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
> >
> >
> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
> >> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
> >>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
> >>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
> >>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
> >>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
> >>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
> >>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
> >>>>>>>>> > says...
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
> >>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
> >>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
> >>>>>>>>> >  >> >
> >>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>  >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>  >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
> >>
> >> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
> >>>>>>>>> >>     All death sentences are more expensive
> >>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
> >>>>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
> >>>>>>>>> over,
> >>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
> >>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
> >>>>>>>>> error was
> >>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
> >>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
> >>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
> >>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
> >>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
> >>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
> >>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
> >>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
> >>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
> >>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
> >>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
> >>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
> >>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
> >>>>>>>>> reexamined in
> >>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
> >>>>>>>>> error.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
> >>>>>>>>> immediately.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
> >>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
> >>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
> >>>>>>>>> who can
> >>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
> >>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
> >>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
> >>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
> >>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
> >>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
> >>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
> >>>>>> North Korea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
> >>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> We know it's not a problem to
> >>
> >> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
> >
> > Your problem,
>
> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>
> >>>
> >>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
> >>>> only reason they don't have due process.
> >>>
> >>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
> >>
> >> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
> >> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
> >
> > No they didn't.
>
> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>
> Once again:
>
> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
> Democrats.
>
> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>
> ============================
>
> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
> scooter.


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In article <LA8UO.345440$v8v2.185067@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>
> On 10/29/2024 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
> >
> >
> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1OPTO.587228$1m96.224920@fx15.iad...
> >> On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
> >>>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >>>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
> >>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless > > round
> >>>>>>> > of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you
> >>>>>>> > have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and
> >>>>>>> > the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
> >>>>>>> > during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     It is precisely those "endless rounds
> >>>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
> >>>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish that.
> >>>>
> >>>> It does, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> No, it doesn't.
> >>
> >> Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.
> >
> > Stomp your little feet and scream in impotence.. the simple fact is your link
> > does NOT establish what you think it does
>
> It does, scooter. The claim, from Mitch Holman, was:
>
> Funny that the most active death penalty state
> in the country - Texas - also leads the country
> in DNA exonerations of inmates on death row.
>
> The link, which you unethically erased from the thread but which I easily found
> despite your juvenile vandalism:

This coming from the moron that snips and edits daily.
>
> https://www.johntfloyd.com/texas-harris-country-lead-in-exonerations-and-wrongful-convictions/
>
> has as its headline:
>
> Texas, Harris County Lead Country in Exonerations and Wrongful Convictions
>
> The link supports the claim, you fascist KKK swine and drunken Virginia camper.
> You lose again.

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On 10/29/2024 10:58 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
content-free batch of lies:

> In article <LA8UO.345440$v8v2.185067@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1OPTO.587228$1m96.224920@fx15.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless > > round
>>>>>>>>>> of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you
>>>>>>>>>> have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and
>>>>>>>>>> the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
>>>>>>>>>> during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     It is precisely those "endless rounds
>>>>>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
>>>>>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.
>>>
>>> Stomp your little feet and scream in impotence.. the simple fact is your link
>>> does NOT establish what you think it does
>>
>> It does, scooter. The claim, from Mitch Holman, was:
>>
>> Funny that the most active death penalty state
>> in the country - Texas - also leads the country
>> in DNA exonerations of inmates on death row.
>>
>> The link, which you unethically erased from the thread but which I easily found
>> despite your juvenile vandalism:
>
> This coming from

....from scooter's intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and
physical superior. Yes.

>>
>> https://www.johntfloyd.com/texas-harris-country-lead-in-exonerations-and-wrongful-convictions/
>>
>> has as its headline:
>>
>> Texas, Harris County Lead Country in Exonerations and Wrongful Convictions
>>
>> The link supports the claim, you fascist KKK swine and drunken Virginia camper.
>> You lose again.

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On 10/29/2024 10:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
content-free batch of lies:

> In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>
>>>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>>>
>>> Your problem,
>>
>> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
>> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>>>>>> only reason they don't have due process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>>>
>>>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
>>>> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>>>
>>> No they didn't.
>>
>> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>>
>> Once again:
>>
>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
>> Democrats.
>>
>> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
>> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
>> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
>> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>
>> ============================
>>
>> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
>> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
>> scooter.
>
> Then why don't they tear down the Holocaust museum?
Who's "they," you fascist racist KKK shitbag deplorable? And why should it be
torn down? It's not a museum to celebrate the holocaust, you stupid
shit-4-braincell cocksucker. It's a museum to teach how horrible the Nazis —
your people — were and are.


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[Default] a frightened incel dwarf typed:

>You defended his illegal stops, scooter.

There will no stopping at the Jolly Kone until you've nutted in my
mouth!

If you're feeling down and out
If you're feeling glum
You should know that I'll be glad
To take it up the bum!
Blow jobs aren't the only thing
I happily provide
I'll lift my skirt to offer you
A hole to cum inside!
Please ignore the sores and pus
I've had a little issue
I'm sure that it'll wipe right off
And I'll give you a tissue!
So meet me at the Jolly Kone!
Two holes and there's no waiting!
You know that I'm the best there is
On that there's no debating!

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Rüdy Cånoza
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:31 UTC
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[Default] a frightened incel dwarf typed:

>On 10/29/2024 7:40 AM, Scout typed:

>You lose again.

NOBODY loses at the Jolly Kone Parking Lot!

If you're feeling down and out
If you're feeling glum
You should know that I'll be glad
To take it up the bum!
Blow jobs aren't the only thing
I happily provide
I'll lift my skirt to offer you
A hole to cum inside!
Please ignore the sores and pus
I've had a little issue
I'm sure that it'll wipe right off
And I'll give you a tissue!
So meet me at the Jolly Kone!
Two holes and there's no waiting!
You know that I'm the best there is
On that there's no debating!

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Rüdy Cånoza
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
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[Default] a cowardly incel dwarf typed:

======================================
The Cowardly Dwarf
and his
Pathetic vandalism of follow ups in an impotent attempt
to stop being bitch-slapped into next week
repaired and restored.
======================================

>I'm the blind squirrel who found an acorn this time.

EVERYONE can find his "nut" in my mouth at the Jolly Kone Parking Lot!

If you're feeling down and out
If you're feeling glum
You should know that I'll be glad
To take it up the bum!
Blow jobs aren't the only thing
I happily provide
I'll lift my skirt to offer you
A hole to cum inside!
Please ignore the sores and pus
I've had a little issue
I'm sure that it'll wipe right off
And I'll give you a tissue!
So meet me at the Jolly Kone!
Two holes and there's no waiting!
You know that I'm the best there is
On that there's no debating!

In the Parking Lot of the Jolly Kone
Is where I’ll suck on your hard bone
Fellatio done with your consent
It won’t cost you one red cent
I gobble cock all day for free!
Why, you can even sodomize me!
I’ll make you scream like a banshee
‘Cause cock-sucking is my specialty!
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And don’t you worry- I won’t bite!
Feeling horny? Got lots of stress?
Look for the dwarf that’s wearing a dress!

©2024 Rudy Canoza Cock Sucking Services

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Rüdy Cånoza
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
Organization: Blow Job Reparations Society
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 18:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:36:28 -0700
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[Default] An incel dwarf typed:

>It is a huge part of what makes them shitholes.

It just seems that way compared to the Paradise that is the Jolly Kone
Parking Lot!

If you're feeling down and out
If you're feeling glum
You should know that I'll be glad
To take it up the bum!
Blow jobs aren't the only thing
I happily provide
I'll lift my skirt to offer you
A hole to cum inside!
Please ignore the sores and pus
I've had a little issue
I'm sure that it'll wipe right off
And I'll give you a tissue!
So meet me at the Jolly Kone!
Two holes and there's no waiting!
You know that I'm the best there is
On that there's no debating!

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Rüdy Cånoza
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
Organization: Blow Job Reparations Society
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From: little-Rudolph@incel-dwarf.com (Rüdy Cånoza)
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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:46:39 -0700
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[Default] "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:

>
>
>"Rüdy Cånoza" <little-Rudolph@incel-dwarf.com> wrote in message
>news:t1jvhjhmthfo37q0ui0bqs23dranc158b3@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
>> [Default] an incel dwarf typed:
>>
>>>On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, Acout humiliated "Cunt Flaps" *AGAN* when he
>>>typed:
>>>>> That's a lie, Scout. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>>
>> There won't be any police at the Jolly Kone tonight. We have an
>> "understanding."
>>
>> And I know the owner!
>
>Of course, the police have him to themselves on the weekend.. that's the
>deal.
>

For the longest time I thought "Back The Blue" meant "back up to the
Blue." They sure can be rough!

If you're feeling down and out
If you're feeling glum
You should know that I'll be glad
To take it up the bum!
Blow jobs aren't the only thing
I happily provide
I'll lift my skirt to offer you
A hole to cum inside!
Please ignore the sores and pus
I've had a little issue
I'm sure that it'll wipe right off
And I'll give you a tissue!
So meet me at the Jolly Kone!
Two holes and there's no waiting!
You know that I'm the best there is
On that there's no debating!

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Michael A Terrell
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism, alt.atheism, alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns
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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
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On 10/29/2024 1:51 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <IC9UO.309198$EEm7.130585@fx16.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 10:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>> content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your problem,
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
>>>> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>>>>>>>> only reason they don't have due process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
>>>>>> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No they didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Once again:
>>>>
>>>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
>>>> Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
>>>> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
>>>> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
>>>> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>
>>>> ============================
>>>>
>>>> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
>>>> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
>>>> scooter.
>>>
>>> Then why don't they tear down the Holocaust museum?
>>
>> Who's "they," you fascist racist KKK shitbag deplorable? And why should it be>> torn down? It's not a museum to celebrate the holocaust, you stupid
>> shit-4-braincell cocksucker. It's a museum to teach how horrible the Nazis —
>> your people — were and are.
>
> Not an excuse.


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Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Mitchell Holman
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"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:vfqtn8$1jpg9$8@dont-email.me:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit
>>>>>>>> who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>>>>>>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>>>>>> > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>> > says...
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>> >> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and
>>>>>>>>> >> > harmless Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral,
>>>>>>>>> >> >> professional,
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>
>> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA
>> HA HA HA*!
>>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
>>>>>>>>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to
>>>>>>>>> do so, we could
>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and
>>>>>>>>> over and over,
>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause
>>>>>>>>> for why the
>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a
>>>>>>>>> procedural error was
>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was
>>>>>>>>> reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands
>>>>>>>>> and the execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If
>>>>>>>>> you can't make
>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never
>>>>>>>>> all. Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's
>>>>>>>>> the end of it.
>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
>>>>>>>>> space and
>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
>>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high,
>>>>>>>>> we can certainly streamline the process by eliminating long
>>>>>>>>> times you can file and
>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
>>>>>>>>> who decides
>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
>>>>>>>>> judicial
>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
>>>>>>>>> carried out
>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the
>>>>>>>>> endless round of
>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is,
>>>>>>>>> you have the
>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the
>>>>>>>>> judge who can
>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial
>>>>>>>>> that could
>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out
>>>>>>>>> the execution
>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
>>>>>>>>> already being
>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed
>>>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the
>>>>>>>> red tape
>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up
>>>>>>> the price
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want
>>>>>> to live in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not
>>>>>> going to emulate North Korea.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the
>>>>> people IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>
>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>
>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>
> Your problem, thankfully, isn't my problem. You will have to work out
> your problems on your own.
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and
>>>> that is the only reason they don't have due process.
>>>
>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>
>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The
>> parties switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>
> No they didn't.
>
>


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In article <XnsB21AD57623A5D629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
> news:vfqtn8$1jpg9$8@dont-email.me:
>
> >
> >
> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
> >> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
> >> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
> >>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
> >>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
> >>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
> >>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
> >>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
> >>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit
> >>>>>>>> who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
> >>>>>>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
> >>>>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
> >>>>>>>>> > noemail@aol.com
> >>>>>>>>> > says...
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> >>>>>>>>> >> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and
> >>>>>>>>> >> > harmless Nazi >>
> >>>>>>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral,
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> professional,
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
> >>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
> >>
> >> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA
> >> HA HA HA*!
> >>
> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
> >>>>>>>>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
> >>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to
> >>>>>>>>> do so, we could
> >>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and
> >>>>>>>>> over and over,
> >>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause
> >>>>>>>>> for why the
> >>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a
> >>>>>>>>> procedural error was
> >>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was
> >>>>>>>>> reasonably tainted,
> >>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands
> >>>>>>>>> and the execution proceeds on track.
> >>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If
> >>>>>>>>> you can't make
> >>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never
> >>>>>>>>> all. Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's
> >>>>>>>>> the end of it.
> >>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
> >>>>>>>>> space and
> >>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
> >>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
> >>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high,
> >>>>>>>>> we can certainly streamline the process by eliminating long
> >>>>>>>>> times you can file and
> >>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
> >>>>>>>>> simply
> >>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
> >>>>>>>>> who decides
> >>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
> >>>>>>>>> reexamined in
> >>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
> >>>>>>>>> judicial
> >>>>>>>>> error.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
> >>>>>>>>> carried out
> >>>>>>>>> immediately.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the
> >>>>>>>>> endless round of
> >>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is,
> >>>>>>>>> you have the
> >>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the
> >>>>>>>>> judge who can
> >>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial
> >>>>>>>>> that could
> >>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out
> >>>>>>>>> the execution
> >>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
> >>>>>>>>> already being
> >>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
> >>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
> >>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed
> >>>>>>>>> for it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the
> >>>>>>>> red tape
> >>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up
> >>>>>>> the price
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want
> >>>>>> to live in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not
> >>>>>> going to emulate North Korea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the
> >>>>> people IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> We know it's not a problem to
> >>
> >> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
> >
> > Your problem, thankfully, isn't my problem. You will have to work out
> > your problems on your own.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and
> >>>> that is the only reason they don't have due process.
> >>>
> >>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
> >>
> >> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The
> >> parties switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
> >
> > No they didn't.
> >
> >
>
> Yes, they did.
>
> Racist Strom Thurmond switched
> to the GOP, racist David Duke switched
> to the GOP, racist George Wallace left
> the GOP for his own racist party.
>
Joe trying to fuck up Harris campaign. Calling us "garbage".


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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 10/29/2024 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1OPTO.587228$1m96.224920@fx15.iad...
>>> On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless
>>>>>>>> > > > round
>>>>>>>> > of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is,
>>>>>>>> > you
>>>>>>>> > have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office
>>>>>>>> > and
>>>>>>>> > the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
>>>>>>>> > during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is precisely those "endless rounds
>>>>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
>>>>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>
>>> Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.
>>
>> Stomp your little feet and scream in impotence.. the simple fact is your
>> link does NOT establish what you think it does
>
> It does, scooter. The claim, from Mitch Holman, was:
>
> Funny that the most active death penalty state
> in the country - Texas - also leads the country
> in DNA exonerations of inmates on death row.
>
> The link, which you unethically erased from the thread but which I easily
> found despite your juvenile vandalism:
>
> https://www.johntfloyd.com/texas-harris-country-lead-in-exonerations-and-wrongful-convictions/
>
> has as its headline:
>
> Texas, Harris County Lead Country in Exonerations and Wrongful
> Convictions
>
> The link supports the claim, you fascist KKK swine and drunken Virginia
> camper. You lose again.

Yea, but there is a WORLD of difference between that headline.. and your
specific assertions.

You would know that if you actually bothered to read your 'evidence'

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 10/29/2024 7:43 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad...
>>> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>>>>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>,
>>>>>>>>>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-
>>>>>>>>>>> Braincell back
>>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>>>>>>>>>> as "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>>>>>>>>> loser.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>>>>>>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer the sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> justice-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gimmick to fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.
>>>>>>>>> Point is that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm
>>>>>>>> pretty sure one or more people died due to a direct result of that
>>>>>>>> crime. It is those deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bank robbery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged
>>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>>>
>>> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You
>>> took the bait, scooter.
>>>
>>> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of
>>> proportion to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're
>>> talking about that specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.
>>
>> Well, first of all you would have to show that is the case.
>
> The course of the thread proves that it is the case, scooter.

I'm sure you think so... but then you're an idiot.

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Mitchell Holman
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Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:67222d4c$0$1786
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> In article <XnsB21AD57623A5D629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
>> news:vfqtn8$1jpg9$8@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>> >> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>> >> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>> >>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>> >>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>> >>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>> >>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child
>> >>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>> >>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>> >>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit
>> >>>>>>>> who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> >>>>>>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
another
>> >>>>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
>> >>>>>>>>> > noemail@aol.com
>> >>>>>>>>> > says...
>> >>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> >>>>>>>>> >> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >
>> >>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and
>> >>>>>>>>> >> > harmless Nazi >>
>> >>>>>>>>> > >> >
>> >>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral,
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> professional,
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew,
*wrote*:
>> >>
>> >> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA
>> >> HA HA HA*!
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
>> >>>>>>>>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
>> >>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to
>> >>>>>>>>> do so, we could
>> >>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over
and
>> >>>>>>>>> over and over,
>> >>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new
cause
>> >>>>>>>>> for why the
>> >>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a
>> >>>>>>>>> procedural error was
>> >>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was
>> >>>>>>>>> reasonably tainted,
>> >>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands
>> >>>>>>>>> and the execution proceeds on track.
>> >>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years.
If
>> >>>>>>>>> you can't make
>> >>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you
never
>> >>>>>>>>> all. Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court..
that's
>> >>>>>>>>> the end of it.
>> >>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up
prison
>> >>>>>>>>> space and
>> >>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
>> >>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>> >>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high,
>> >>>>>>>>> we can certainly streamline the process by eliminating long
>> >>>>>>>>> times you can file and
>> >>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to
a >> >>>>>>>>> simply
>> >>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge
>> >>>>>>>>> who decides
>> >>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to
be
>> >>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>> >>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural
or
>> >>>>>>>>> judicial
>> >>>>>>>>> error.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can
be
>> >>>>>>>>> carried out
>> >>>>>>>>> immediately.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the
>> >>>>>>>>> endless round of
>> >>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is,
>> >>>>>>>>> you have the
>> >>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and
the
>> >>>>>>>>> judge who can
>> >>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial
>> >>>>>>>>> that could
>> >>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out
>> >>>>>>>>> the execution
>> >>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge
is
>> >>>>>>>>> already being
>> >>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>> >>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
>> >>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed
>> >>>>>>>>> for it.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove
the
>> >>>>>>>> red tape
>> >>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up
>> >>>>>>> the price
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you
want
>> >>>>>> to live in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not
>> >>>>>> going to emulate North Korea.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the
>> >>>>> people IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>> >>>
>> >>> We know it's not a problem to
>> >>
>> >> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>> >
>> > Your problem, thankfully, isn't my problem. You will have to work
out
>> > your problems on your own.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and
>> >>>> that is the only reason they don't have due process.
>> >>>
>> >>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>> >>
>> >> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The
>> >> parties switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times,
scooter.
>> >
>> > No they didn't.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Yes, they did.
>>
>> Racist Strom Thurmond switched
>> to the GOP, racist David Duke switched
>> to the GOP, racist George Wallace left
>> the GOP for his own racist party.
>>
> Joe trying to fuck up Harris campaign. Calling us "garbage".
>


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On 10/30/2024 7:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LA8UO.345440$v8v2.185067@fx18.iad...
>> On 10/29/2024 7:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1OPTO.587228$1m96.224920@fx15.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless >  >
>>>>>>>>> > round
>>>>>>>>> > of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, > you
>>>>>>>>> > have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office > and
>>>>>>>>> > the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
>>>>>>>>> > during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     It is precisely those "endless rounds
>>>>>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
>>>>>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.
>>>
>>> Stomp your little feet and scream in impotence.. the simple fact is your link
>>> does NOT establish what you think it does
>>
>> It does, scooter. The claim, from Mitch Holman, was:
>>
>>    Funny that the most active death penalty state
>>    in the country - Texas - also leads the country
>>    in DNA exonerations of inmates on death row.
>>
>> The link, which you unethically erased from the thread but which I easily
>> found despite your juvenile vandalism:
>>
>> https://www.johntfloyd.com/texas-harris-country-lead-in-exonerations-and-
>> wrongful-convictions/
>>
>> has as its headline:
>>
>>    Texas, Harris County Lead Country in Exonerations and Wrongful Convictions
>>
>> The link supports the claim, you fascist KKK swine and drunken Virginia
>> camper. You lose again.
>
> Yea, but there is a WORLD of difference between that headline.. and your
> specific assertions.

No, scooter, there is not.

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
From: Dawn Flood
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On 10/27/2024 9:06 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:vfk61n$3uss7$1@dont-email.me:
>
>
>>
>> Rape is different than robbery, the latter being an economic crime.
>> Most robbers do not intend to harm anyone; they just want someone
>> else's money and are using coercion to get it. With rape, the
>> assailant intends to cause actual harm to another human being.
>
>
>
> Good thing the Bible has a solution to that.
>
> Force the victim to marry her rapiet.
>
> No, really.
>
>
> If a man happens to meet a virgin who
> is not pledged to be married and rapes
> her and they are discovered, he shall
> pay her father fifty shekels of silver.
> He must marry the young woman, for he has
> violated her. He can never divorce her as
> long as he lives.
> Deuteronomy 22:28-29
>

I'm waiting for those "What would Donald Trump do?" tee-shirts to come out.

Dawn

Subject: Re: Building new prisons causes more prisoners
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On 10/30/2024 5:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <H7dUO.309207$EEm7.215970@fx16.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/29/2024 1:51 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <IC9UO.309198$EEm7.130585@fx16.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2024 10:57 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <uA8UO.345439$v8v2.226259@fx18.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/29/2024 7:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>>>>>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nazi >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But since you want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, no?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live
>>>>>>>>>>>> in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate
>>>>>>>>>>>> North Korea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>>>>>>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We know it's not a problem to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your problem,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a problem, scooter. You have one, which is not understanding what
>>>>>> the real problem with wishing to emulate North Korea is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>>>>>>>>>> only reason they don't have due process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties
>>>>>>>> switched on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No they didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, they did, scooter. The parties fully switched on race over 50 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who wants to preserve memorials to confederate traitors? Republiscums/QAnon, not
>>>>>> Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who defends the confederate traitors' secession? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who pushes the "lost cause" lie? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who wants to keep military bases named for confederate traitors?
>>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who *welcomes* current KKK running as their party's candidates?
>>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who wants to prevent blacks from voting? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who gerrymanders blacks into 90% and higher districts to dilute their voting
>>>>>> strength? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who seeks to gut the 1965 Voting Rights Act to make it easier to suppress black
>>>>>> votes? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who defends white cops making false pretextual traffic stops to detain
>>>>>> "suspicious-looking" blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who defends white cops lynching unarmed blacks? Republiscums/QAnon, not Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The parties switched on race, scooter. Today, the Republiscums/QAnon are the
>>>>>> party of white supremacy and the new Jim Crow. Everyone knows it. It's settled,
>>>>>> scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why don't they tear down the Holocaust museum?
>>>>
>>>> Who's "they," you fascist racist KKK shitbag deplorable? And why should it be>> torn down? It's not a museum to celebrate the holocaust, you stupid
>>>> shit-4-braincell cocksucker. It's a museum to teach how horrible the Nazis ?
>>>> your people ? were and are.
>>>
>>> Not an excuse.
>>
>> No excuse needed, "Lamey."
>
> There is no one here using that nym.


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