"Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>> >>> says...
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>>
>>>> >>>> Shit-4-
>>>> Braincell back
>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>> >>>> >>>> loser.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> prisons there
>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer
>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>>>> >>>>>>> more prisons and
>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick
>>>> >>>>>> to fill up
>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.
>>>> >> Point >>
>>>> is that
>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>>> >
>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty
>>>> > > sure
>>>> one or
>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those >
>>>> > deaths
>>>> that
>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>>>
>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, but
>>>> no one was
>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If you
>>>> think
>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out your
>>>> evidence.
>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>
>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for
>>>> >> >> 5K
>>>> some 5
>>>> >> years ago? 10? 50? A year ago?
>>>> >
>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>
>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the
>>>> despotic state
>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a
>>>> state that
>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>
>>> No they don't.
>>>>
>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for >
>>>> robbing a bank
>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the
>>>> New York
>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of $5,000.
>>>> No one
>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>>>
>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he was
>>>> given a 60
>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And yes, a
>>>> huge
>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole
>>>> states.
>>>
>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>
>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>
> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.

"In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank
robbery in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a
half; Robert was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60
years."

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black

I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the case,
and as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little
consequence.

Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you
are almost never right?

Now,, given this demonstration of your ignorance of the case.. why do you
think your opinion based in ignorance should be at all relevant to either
public policy or his release?

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>Scout verbally abused Rudy by typing:
>That's all that Richardson was charged with.

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On 10/28/2024 7:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BLOSO.207008$15a6.109985@fx12.iad...
>> On 10/25/2024 7:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:671a9c57$0$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>> In article <XnsB21583875F590629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>> > tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    By "red tape" you mean the Constitution.
>>>>
>>>> Oh please.
>>>
>>> I'm curious where the Constitution says invaders
>>
>> No "invaders," scooter.

<crickets>

>>
>>>
>>>>> "The Due Process Clause applies to all persons within the
>>>>> United States, including aliens, whether their presence is
>>>>> lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."
>>>>> The US Supreme Court, Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)
>>>>> <http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/99-7791.html>
>>>
>>> Great..
>>> Says,[Hartung comma] nothing about us not removing them
>>
>> It specifies you can't just round up people you think don't belong here and
>> deport them, scooter. That's what it says.
>
> Then we have no problem rounding up and deporting those we know don't belong here.

You don't know who does and does not belong here, scooter, and being a complete
fucking idiot, *you* never will know.

Here's a big hint for you, you stupid fascist KKK fuckwit: detaining
brown-skinned people *only* because they "look foreign" and demanding to see
proof of legal status in the country is not allowed, scooter. That's why Joe
Arpaio is now a felon, scooter. That's what he was doing. He had no reasonable
suspicion to justify detaining them, scooter.

--
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On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless > round
>>>>> > of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you
>>>>> > have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and
>>>>> > the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
>>>>> > during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     It is precisely those "endless rounds
>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
>>>
>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish that.
>>
>> It does, scooter.
>
> No, it doesn't.

Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.

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On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>
>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester
>>>>>>> and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>
>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>> > says...
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi >>
>>>>>>> >  >> >
>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, >>
>>>>>>> >>  >> >>
>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >> SchittenPantzen,
>>>>>>> impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:

Yep!  That certainly is the default, all right!  *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA*!

>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
>>>>>>> >>     All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so, we could
>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over and over,
>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for why the
>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural error was
>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably tainted,
>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you can't make
>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of it.
>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison space and
>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> But since you want
>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>> >> them, no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can file and
>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a simply
>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who decides
>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be reexamined in
>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or judicial
>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be carried out
>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless round of
>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you have the
>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the judge who can
>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that could
>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the execution
>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is already being
>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too expensive.. I
>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red tape
>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the price
>>>>
>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to live in
>>>> North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to emulate North
>>>> Korea.
>>>
>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people IN..
>>> ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>
>
>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>
> We know it's not a problem to

You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.

>
>> The problem is that North Korea is a despotic dictatorship, and that is the
>> only reason they don't have due process.
>
> Much like Democrats during the era of Jim Crow, right?

All KKK and racists are Republiscums/QAnon today, scooter. The parties switched
on race, scooter. Catch up with the times, scooter.

>
>> What you are calling "BS," scooter, is due process and the rest of the rule of
>> law that makes the U.S. civilized, and the lack of which makes North Korea a
>> shithole.
>
> Due process and rule of law

Yes, which are *constantly* under attack by the Republiscums/QAnon, scooter —
your fascist side.

[Default] a frightened incel dwarf typed:

>On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, Scout once again humiliated "Cunt Flaps" by typing:
>>
>> Due process and rule of law
>
>Yes,

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On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
>>>>>>>>>>> there are,
>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
>>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
>>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>
>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>
>>> Bank robbery?
>>
>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>
> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?

See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took the
bait, scooter.

We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of proportion
to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking about that
specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.

>>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
>>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>>
>> It always was part of the topic, scooter.
>
> No, it's not.

Yes, scooter, it was. It is a specific and on-point instance of what the general
topic *formerly* was, scooter.

>
>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was
>> given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000.
>> Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
>
> Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?

That's not the goal of incarceration, scooter.

The sentence is manifestly unjust, scooter.

>>>
>>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
>
> You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1100023.html

You shoot yourself in your crotch every time, scooter...not that there's much to
hit there.

>
>>>
>>> Illegal possession of a firearm
>>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
>>> Reckless endangerment
>>> Attempted homicide
>>
>> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
>
> Prove it.

See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.

>
>>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but
>>
>> No "but," scooter.
>
> Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery.

See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.

>>>
>>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot
>>>> out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>
>>> How about the law?
>>
>> Nothing about the law, scooter.
>
> Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law

Straw man, scooter. I never suggested we ignore the law, scooter.

>> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly unjust.
>
> I don't see it.

Of course you don't, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck. Fascists KKK fat
fucks never do.

>
>>>>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K
>>>>>> some 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>
>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
>>>
>>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>>
>> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will.
>> You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
>
> Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
> will prove you wrong.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum

No, scooter. That was in 1901. We don't do things today as we did in 1901,
scooter. And we're not going back to that, scooter. Move to North Korea if
that's the kind of "justice" system you wish to live under, scooter.

>>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
>>>
>>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>>
>> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.

<crickets>

>>>
>>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
>>>> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>
>>> I should I move?
>>
>> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.

<crickets>

>>>
>>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing
>>>>> a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>
>>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
>>
>> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of
>> the money.
>>
>>>
>>>> *This* case, scooter — the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
>>>
>>> and yet,
>>
>> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>>
>> "Actually..." [empty padding]
>> "Further..." [empty padding]
>> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
>> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
>> before fleeing]
>> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
>> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
>> "Heck..." [empty padding]
>> "Well..." [empty padding]
>> "After all..." [empty padding]
>> "In fact..." [empty padding]
>> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
>> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
>> acknowledgment]
>> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
>> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
>> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man]
>> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
>> "TRANSLATION:.." — a straw man]
>> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in
>> the Constitution anyway]
>> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
>> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
>> "where" [he means "were"]
>> "were" [he means "where"]
>> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>>
>>>
>>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>>
>> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
<crickets>

[Default] a frightened incel dwarf typed:

>On 10/28/2024 7:53 AM, Scout beat "Cunt Flaps" with logic and facts when he typed:
>>> No "invaders," scooter.
>
><crickets>

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with delight!

If there is a cock to suck
Then Rudy is your guy
He may past retirement age
But still he's pretty spry
He has no trouble getting down
Upon his bony knees
And sucking on your schwanzstucker
With practiced skill and ease
Don't hesitate to get your nut
Into his soft white mouth
'Cuz he's the best no matter where
East, west, north, or south!
So come down to the Jolly Kone
You know he knows the owner!
And let him do his magic
On your incredible stiff boner!

On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>
> "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>> >>> says...
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>> >>>> Shit-4-
>>>>> Braincell back
>>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>> >>>>  >>>>
>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking >>>>
>>>>> >>>> loser.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> prisons there
>>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer
>>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The >>>>>>>
>>>>> more prisons and
>>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick
>>>>> >>>>>> to fill up
>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. >> Point >>
>>>>> is that
>>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty >  >
>>>>> sure
>>>>> one or
>>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those > >
>>>>> deaths
>>>>> that
>>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, but no
>>>>> one was
>>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If you think
>>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out your
>>>>> evidence.
>>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>
>>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for >>
>>>>> >> 5K
>>>>> some 5
>>>>> >> years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the despotic
>>>>> state
>>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that
>>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> No they don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for >
>>>>> robbing a bank
>>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New York
>>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of $5,000. No one
>>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>>>>
>>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he was given
>>>>> a 60
>>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And yes, a huge
>>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole states.
>>>>
>>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>>
>>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>>
>> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>
> "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank robbery
> in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a half; Robert
> was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60 years."
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
> apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>
> I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the case, and
> as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little consequence.
>
> Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you are
> almost never right?
This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet — at
least two decades — that you have been right, scooter.

[Default] an incel dwarf typed:

>On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, Scout typed:
>> No, it doesn't.
>
>Yes, Scout

Yes, get your rocks off in my mouth at the Jolly Kone!

If there is a cock to suck
Then Rudy is your guy
He may past retirement age
But still he's pretty spry
He has no trouble getting down
Upon his bony knees
And sucking on your schwanzstucker
With practiced skill and ease
Don't hesitate to get your nut
Into his soft white mouth
'Cuz he's the best no matter where
East, west, north, or south!
So come down to the Jolly Kone
You know he knows the owner!
And let him do his magic
On your incredible stiff boner!

[Default] an incel dwarf typed:

>On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, Acout humiliated "Cunt Flaps" *AGAN* when he typed:
>>> That's a lie, Scout. You didn't *read* any police reports.

There won't be any police at the Jolly Kone tonight. We have an
"understanding."

And I know the owner!

If there is a cock to suck
Then Rudy is your guy
He may past retirement age
But still he's pretty spry
He has no trouble getting down
Upon his bony knees
And sucking on your schwanzstucker
With practiced skill and ease
Don't hesitate to get your nut
Into his soft white mouth
'Cuz he's the best no matter where
East, west, north, or south!
So come down to the Jolly Kone
You know he knows the owner!
And let him do his magic
On your incredible stiff boner!

[Default] an incel dwarf typed:

>On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, Scout stomped "Cunt Flaps" Canoza into the dirt when he typed:

>> Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you are
>> almost never right?

>You are 100% correct, Scout.

I'm happy to reward you all at the Jolly Kone tonight!

If there is a cock to suck
Then Rudy is your guy
He may past retirement age
But still he's pretty spry
He has no trouble getting down
Upon his bony knees
And sucking on your schwanzstucker
With practiced skill and ease
Don't hesitate to get your nut
Into his soft white mouth
'Cuz he's the best no matter where
East, west, north, or south!
So come down to the Jolly Kone
You know he knows the owner!
And let him do his magic
On your incredible stiff boner!

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On 10/28/2024 7:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BLOSO.207008$15a6.109985@fx12.iad...
>>> On 10/25/2024 7:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:671a9c57$0$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>> In article <XnsB21583875F590629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>> > tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    By "red tape" you mean the Constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh please.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious where the Constitution says invaders
>>>
>>> No "invaders," scooter.
>
> <crickets>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> "The Due Process Clause applies to all persons within the
>>>>>> United States, including aliens, whether their presence is
>>>>>> lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."
>>>>>> The US Supreme Court, Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)
>>>>>> <http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/99-7791.html>
>>>>
>>>> Great..
>>>> Says,[Hartung comma] nothing about us not removing them
>>>
>>> It specifies you can't just round up people you think don't belong
>>> here and deport them, scooter. That's what it says.
>>
>> Then we have no problem rounding up and deporting those we know don't
>> belong here.
>
> You don't know who does and does not belong here, scooter, and being a
> complete fucking idiot, *you* never will know.
>
> Here's a big hint for you, you stupid fascist KKK fuckwit: detaining
> brown-skinned people *only* because they "look foreign" and demanding to
> see proof of legal status in the country is not allowed, scooter. That's
> why Joe Arpaio is now a felon, scooter. That's what he was doing. He had
> no reasonable suspicion to justify detaining them, scooter.
>
>
Being gay makes me a criminal in 72 countries.

In article <EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>
> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
> > "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
> >> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
> >>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
> >>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
> >>>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell
> >>>>>>>> back
> >>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
> >>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
> >>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
> >>>>>>>>>>> there are,
> >>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
> >>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
> >>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
> >>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
> >>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> More support:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
> >>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
> >>>>>>>>>> fill up the
> >>>>>>>>>> prisons.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then dont do it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
> >>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
> >>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
> >>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
> >>>>
> >>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> Bank robbery?
> >>
> >> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
> >
> > And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>
> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took the
> bait, scooter.
>
> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of proportion
> to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking about that
> specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.
>
> >>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
> >>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
> >>
> >> It always was part of the topic, scooter.
> >
> > No, it's not.
>
> Yes, scooter, it was. It is a specific and on-point instance of what the general
> topic *formerly* was, scooter.
>
> >
> >> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was
> >> given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000.
> >> Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
> >
> > Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?
>
> That's not the goal of incarceration, scooter.
>
> The sentence is manifestly unjust, scooter.
>
> >>>
> >>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
> >>>
> >>> So?
> >>
> >> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
> >
> > You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.
>
> https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1100023.html
>
> You shoot yourself in your crotch every time, scooter...not that there's much to
> hit there.
>
> >
> >>>
> >>> Illegal possession of a firearm
> >>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
> >>> Reckless endangerment
> >>> Attempted homicide
> >>
> >> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
> >
> > Prove it.
>
> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>
> >
> >>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, but
> >>
> >> No "but," scooter.
> >
> > Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery.
>
> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>
> >>>
> >>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot
> >>>> out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
> >>>
> >>> How about the law?
> >>
> >> Nothing about the law, scooter.
> >
> > Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law
>
> Straw man, scooter. I never suggested we ignore the law, scooter.
>
> >> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly unjust.
> >
> > I don't see it.
>
> Of course you don't, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck. Fascists KKK fat
> fucks never do.
>
> >
> >>>>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K
> >>>>>> some 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
> >>
> >> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will.
> >> You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
> >
> > Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
> > will prove you wrong.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum
>
> No, scooter. That was in 1901. We don't do things today as we did in 1901,
> scooter. And we're not going back to that, scooter. Move to North Korea if
> that's the kind of "justice" system you wish to live under, scooter.
>
> >>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
> >>>
> >>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
> >>
> >> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.
>
> <crickets>
>
> >>>
> >>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
> >>>> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
> >>>
> >>> I should I move?
> >>
> >> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.
>
> <crickets>
>
> >>>
> >>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing
> >>>>> a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
> >>>
> >>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
> >>
> >> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of
> >> the money.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
> >>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
> >>>
> >>> and yet,
> >>
> >> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
> >>
> >> "Actually..." [empty padding]
> >> "Further..." [empty padding]
> >> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
> >> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
> >> before fleeing]
> >> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
> >> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
> >> "Heck..." [empty padding]
> >> "Well..." [empty padding]
> >> "After all..." [empty padding]
> >> "In fact..." [empty padding]
> >> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
> >> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
> >> acknowledgment]
> >> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
> >> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
> >> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
> >> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
> >> "TRANSLATION:.." ? a straw man]
> >> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in
> >> the Constitution anyway]
> >> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
> >> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
> >> "where" [he means "were"]
> >> "were" [he means "where"]
> >> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
> >>
> >> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
> <crickets>

In article <o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>
> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >
> >
> > "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
> >> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
> >>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
> >>>>> >>> says...
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>> >>>> Shit-4-
> >>>>> Braincell back
> >>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
> >>>>> >>>>  >>>>
> >>>>> "Lamey," but
> >>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> loser.
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
> >>>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new >>>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> prisons there
> >>>>> >>>>>>> are,
> >>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer
> >>>>> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
> >>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The >>>>>>>
> >>>>> more prisons and
> >>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
> >>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> More support:
> >>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
> >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
> >>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
> >>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick
> >>>>> >>>>>> to fill up
> >>>>> >>>>>> the
> >>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. >> Point >>
> >>>>> is that
> >>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty >  >
> >>>>> sure
> >>>>> one or
> >>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those > >
> >>>>> deaths
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, but no
> >>>>> one was
> >>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If you think
> >>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out your
> >>>>> evidence.
> >>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
> >>>>
> >>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for >>
> >>>>> >> 5K
> >>>>> some 5
> >>>>> >> years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the despotic
> >>>>> state
> >>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that
> >>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
> >>>>
> >>>> No they don't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for >
> >>>>> robbing a bank
> >>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
> >>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New York
> >>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of $5,000. No one
> >>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he was given
> >>>>> a 60
> >>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And yes, a huge
> >>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole states.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
> >>>
> >>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
> >>
> >> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
> >
> > "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank robbery
> > in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a half; Robert
> > was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60 years."
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
> > apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
> >
> > I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the case, and
> > as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little consequence.
> >
> > Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you are
> > almost never right?
> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet ? at
> least two decades ? that you have been right, scooter.

He slapped you silly.

On 10/28/2024 12:21 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
content-free batch of lies:

> In article <EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>>>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell
>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
>>>>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
>>>>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bank robbery?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>>>
>>> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>>
>> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took the
>> bait, scooter.
>>
>> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of proportion
>> to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking about that
>> specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.
>>
>>>>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
>>>>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>>>>
>>>> It always was part of the topic, scooter.
>>>
>>> No, it's not.
>>
>> Yes, scooter, it was. It is a specific and on-point instance of what the general
>> topic *formerly* was, scooter.
>>
>>>
>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was
>>>> given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000.
>>>> Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
>>>
>>> Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?
>>
>> That's not the goal of incarceration, scooter.
>>
>> The sentence is manifestly unjust, scooter.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
>>>>>
>>>>> So?
>>>>
>>>> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
>>>
>>> You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.
>>
>> https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1100023.html
>>
>> You shoot yourself in your crotch every time, scooter...not that there's much to
>> hit there.
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Illegal possession of a firearm
>>>>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
>>>>> Reckless endangerment
>>>>> Attempted homicide
>>>>
>>>> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
>>>
>>> Prove it.
>>
>> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>>
>>>
>>>>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but
>>>>
>>>> No "but," scooter.
>>>
>>> Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery.
>>
>> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot
>>>>>> out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>>
>>>>> How about the law?
>>>>
>>>> Nothing about the law, scooter.
>>>
>>> Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law
>>
>> Straw man, scooter. I never suggested we ignore the law, scooter.
>>
>>>> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly unjust.
>>>
>>> I don't see it.
>>
>> Of course you don't, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck. Fascists KKK fat
>> fucks never do.
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K
>>>>>>>> some 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>>>>
>>>> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will.
>>>> You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
>>>
>>> Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
>>> will prove you wrong.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum
>>
>> No, scooter. That was in 1901. We don't do things today as we did in 1901,
>> scooter. And we're not going back to that, scooter. Move to North Korea if
>> that's the kind of "justice" system you wish to live under, scooter.
>>
>>>>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.
>>
>> <crickets>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
>>>>>> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> I should I move?
>>>>
>>>> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.
>>
>> <crickets>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing
>>>>>>> a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
>>>>
>>>> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of
>>>> the money.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>>>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
>>>>>
>>>>> and yet,
>>>>
>>>> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>>>>
>>>> "Actually..." [empty padding]
>>>> "Further..." [empty padding]
>>>> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
>>>> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
>>>> before fleeing]
>>>> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
>>>> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
>>>> "Heck..." [empty padding]
>>>> "Well..." [empty padding]
>>>> "After all..." [empty padding]
>>>> "In fact..." [empty padding]
>>>> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
>>>> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
>>>> acknowledgment]
>>>> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
>>>> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
>>>> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
>>>> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
>>>> "TRANSLATION:.." ? a straw man]
>>>> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in
>>>> the Constitution anyway]
>>>> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
>>>> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
>>>> "where" [he means "were"]
>>>> "were" [he means "where"]
>>>> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>>>>
>>>> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>> <crickets>
>
> Your desperation is showing
Same old stale 35-year-old Usenet trope as before.

On 10/28/2024 1:31 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
>> Your desperation is showing
> Same old stale 35-year-old Usenet trope as before.

Same flip flopping Rudey as before.

On 10/28/2024 1:17 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <OERTO.308840$EEm7.56168@fx16.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/28/2024 12:21 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>> content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>>>>>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell
>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking loser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true.  Research shows that the more new prisons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions.  The more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.  Point is
>>>>>>>>>> that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty sure
>>>>>>>>> one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>>>>>> deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bank robbery?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>>>>>
>>>>> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>>>>
>>>> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You took the
>>>> bait, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of proportion
>>>> to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking about that
>>>> specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>>> When did that specific become part of the topic and which specific bank
>>>>>>> robbery are you claiming was part of the discussion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It always was part of the topic, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it's not.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, scooter, it was. It is a specific and on-point instance of what the general
>>>> topic *formerly* was, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" is about a bank robber who was
>>>>>> given a 60 year no-parole no-probation sentence for robbing a bank of $5,000.
>>>>>> Why don't you try paying attention, scooter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, has he committed another violent crime since he's been in jail?
>>>>
>>>> That's not the goal of incarceration, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> The sentence is manifestly unjust, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shots were fired, but no one was hit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the conviction was only for bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have proof of that? Somehow I doubt it.
>>>>
>>>> https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/la-court-of-appeal/1100023.html
>>>>
>>>> You shoot yourself in your crotch every time, scooter...not that there's much to
>>>> hit there.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Illegal possession of a firearm
>>>>>>> Illegal discharge of a Firearm
>>>>>>> Reckless endangerment
>>>>>>> Attempted homicide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of those were part of the charges, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>
>>>> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No "but," scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then prove your claim that it was *solely* for the robbery.
>>>>
>>>> See above, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck.
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you think there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot
>>>>>>>> out your evidence. But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about the law?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing about the law, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow I don't see your suggestion that we ignore the law
>>>>
>>>> Straw man, scooter. I never suggested we ignore the law, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>> The man was duly and justly convicted, but the sentence is manifestly unjust.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see it.
>>>>
>>>> Of course you don't, scooter, you dumb fascist KKK fat fuck. Fascists KKK fat
>>>> fucks never do.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank for 5K
>>>>>>>>>> some 5 years ago?  10? 50?  A year ago?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then count your blessings he's only getting life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't execute people for the theft of $5,000, scooter, and we never will.
>>>>>> You are not going to get the North Korean "justice" that you wish to see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rudy.. when will you learn not to make such stupid claims because you know I
>>>>> will prove you wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Ketchum
>>>>
>>>> No, scooter. That was in 1901. We don't do things today as we did in 1901,
>>>> scooter. And we're not going back to that, scooter. Move to North Korea if
>>>> that's the kind of "justice" system you wish to live under, scooter.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are not going to get the despotic state that you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An [sic] I know you want the despotic state you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want a despotic state, scooter. You do.
>>>>
>>>> <crickets>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a state that summarily
>>>>>>>> executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should I move?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you're the one who wishes to live in a despotic state, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> <crickets>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for robbing
>>>>>>>>> a bank of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Except when you rob a bank... it's not just about the robbery of the money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that's all that happened, scooter, then it *is* only about the robbery of
>>>>>> the money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the New
>>>>>>>> York Times (Gold Standard) story above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and yet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, scooter. Fuck off with your scooterisms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Actually..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Further..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
>>>>>> before fleeing]
>>>>>> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
>>>>>> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
>>>>>> "Heck..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Well..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "After all..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "In fact..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
>>>>>> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
>>>>>> acknowledgment]
>>>>>> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
>>>>>> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
>>>>>> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
>>>>>> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and
>>>>>> "TRANSLATION:.." ? a straw man]
>>>>>> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in
>>>>>> the Constitution anyway]
>>>>>> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
>>>>>> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
>>>>>> "where" [he means "were"]
>>>>>> "were" [he means "where"]
>>>>>> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also according to police reports he fired said gun at a police officer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a lie, scooter. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>>>> <crickets>
>>>
>>> Your desperation is showing
>> Same old stale 35-year-old Usenet trope as before.
>
> Yet here you are

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:zNPTO.587227$1m96.72519@fx15.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 7:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:BLOSO.207008$15a6.109985@fx12.iad...
>>> On 10/25/2024 7:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:671a9c57$0$3826$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>> In article <XnsB21583875F590629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:671a5878$7$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>> > tape and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By "red tape" you mean the Constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh please.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious where the Constitution says invaders
>>>
>>> No "invaders," scooter.
>
> <crickets>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> "The Due Process Clause applies to all persons within the
>>>>>> United States, including aliens, whether their presence is
>>>>>> lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent."
>>>>>> The US Supreme Court, Zadvydas v. Davis (2001)
>>>>>> <http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/99-7791.html>
>>>>
>>>> Great..
>>>> Says,[Hartung comma] nothing about us not removing them
>>>
>>> It specifies you can't just round up people you think don't belong here
>>> and deport them, scooter. That's what it says.
>>
>> Then we have no problem rounding up and deporting those we know don't
>> belong here.
>
> You don't know who does and does not belong here

Sure I do. If they didn't enter legally, they don't belong here.... as a
matter of law.
If they are not a citizen and do not have a visa or a green card, they don't
belong here... as a matter of law.

Indeed, I suspect the only person who doesn't know who does or doesn't
belong is you.

> scooter, and being a complete fucking idiot, *you* never will know.

And yet, I know such much more than you.. so if I am a complete fucking
idiot.. how low does that make you?

> Here's a big hint for you, you stupid fascist KKK fuckwit: detaining
> brown-skinned people *only* because they "look foreign" and demanding to
> see proof of legal status in the country is not allowed, scooter.

Never said it was. I will acknowledge your bigotry, hatred and racism
though...

> That's why Joe Arpaio is now a felon, scooter. That's what he was doing.
> He had no reasonable suspicion to justify detaining them, scooter.

Well, I'm not Joe, so really doesn't apply.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1OPTO.587228$1m96.224920@fx15.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 7:55 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:qPOSO.201812$WtV9.70852@fx10.iad...
>>> On 10/25/2024 7:14 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:671a9c75$2$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>> In article <XnsB2158607681D5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless >
>>>>>> > round
>>>>>> > of appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you
>>>>>> > have the defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and
>>>>>> > the judge who can review any new evidence or proof of errors made
>>>>>> > during trial that could reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is precisely those "endless rounds
>>>>>> of appeals" that uncovered over 100 innocent
>>>>>> men sitting on death rows across the country.
>>>>
>>>> Where [sic] they innocent? The only link produced does not establish
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> It does, scooter.
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>
> Yes, scooter, you fascist KKK swine, it does.

Stomp your little feet and scream in impotence.. the simple fact is your
link does NOT establish what you think it does, nor can you show otherwise.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:EYPTO.249495$WXO8.74608@fx13.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:wzOTO.89026$7OO5.77312@fx43.iad...
>>> On 10/28/2024 8:26 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad...
>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>>>>>>> Shit-4-Braincell back
>>>>>>>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted as
>>>>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>>>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>>>>>>> loser.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>>>>>>>> prisons there are,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and longer
>>>>>>>>>>>> the sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> more prisons and
>>>>>>>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More support:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>>>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another gimmick
>>>>>>>>>>> to fill up the
>>>>>>>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.
>>>>>>> Point is that people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm pretty
>>>>>> sure one or more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It
>>>>>> is those deaths that put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter.
>>>>
>>>> Bank robbery?
>>>
>>> Yes, bank robbery, scooter. That's all that Richardson was charged with.
>>
>> And how did we go from the general cases above to this SPECIFIC case?
>
> See above, scooter: "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer" You
> took the bait, scooter.
>
> We were talking in general about grotesquely unjust sentences out of
> proportion to the crime committed, scooter. *Now*, scooter, we're talking
> about that specific case. You swallowed the bait, scooter.

Well, first of all you would have to show that is the case.

Simply asserting it does NOT make it true.

So what sentencing guidelines did the judge ignored in passing the sentence
he did?

Why is it that NO appeal has succeed on the basis of your assertion?

In short what FACTS do you have to support your feet stomping and screaming
"Unfair" as if you get to decide?

Nada, Zip, Zilch.

that's what you have.

"Rüdy Cånoza" <little-Rudolph@incel-dwarf.com> wrote in message
news:t1jvhjhmthfo37q0ui0bqs23dranc158b3@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...
> [Default] an incel dwarf typed:
>
>>On 10/28/2024 10:01 AM, Acout humiliated "Cunt Flaps" *AGAN* when he
>>typed:
>>>> That's a lie, Scout. You didn't *read* any police reports.
>
> There won't be any police at the Jolly Kone tonight. We have an
> "understanding."
>
> And I know the owner!

Of course, the police have him to themselves on the weekend.. that's the
deal.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>
>> "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>>> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>,
>>>>>> >>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>>> >>> says...
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> Shit-4-
>>>>>> Braincell back
>>>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>>>>>> >>>> as >>>>
>>>>>> "Lamey," but
>>>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a fucking
>>>>>> >>>> >>>> loser.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>>>>> >>>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> prisons there
>>>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>>>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> longer the
>>>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> more prisons and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>>>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>>>>>> >>>>>> gimmick to fill up
>>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>>>>>> >>>> wrong.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so. >>
>>>>>> >> Point >>
>>>>>> is that
>>>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm
>>>>>> > pretty > >
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> one or
>>>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is those
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired, but
>>>>>> no one was
>>>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If
>>>>>> you think
>>>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out
>>>>>> your evidence.
>>>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>>>>>
>>>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank
>>>>>> >> for >> 5K
>>>>>> some 5
>>>>>> >> years ago? 10? 50? A year ago?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the
>>>>>> despotic state
>>>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a
>>>>>> state that
>>>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> No they don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just for
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> robbing a bank
>>>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the
>>>>>> > money.
>>>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in the
>>>>>> New York
>>>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of
>>>>>> $5,000. No one
>>>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he was
>>>>>> given a 60
>>>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And yes,
>>>>>> a huge
>>>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole
>>>>>> states.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>>>>
>>>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>>>
>>> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>>
>> "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank
>> robbery in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a
>> half; Robert was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got
>> 60 years."
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
>> apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>>
>> I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the
>> case, and as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very
>> little consequence.
>>
>> Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while you
>> are almost never right?
> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet —
> at least two decades — that you have been right, scooter.

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:671fe46f$0$3068676$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <o_PTO.249496$WXO8.117467@fx13.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On 10/28/2024 10:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ken" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:QAOTO.89027$7OO5.27721@fx43.iad...
>> >> On 10/28/2024 8:27 AM, Scout wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:671bc470$0$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> >>>> In article <FtPSO.26517$9Rk4.10335@fx37.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 10/25/2024 7:19 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>> >>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > "Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>> > news:vfes9n$2s3np$4@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>> >> On 10/22/2024 2:35 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> >>>>> >>> In article <rxSRO.54739$KDwf.3770@fx01.iad>,
>> >>>>> >>> rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>> >>>>> >>> says...
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> This is a reply I made to Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Shit-4-
>> >>>>> Braincell back
>> >>>>> >>>> when he was posting as "Lamey." Now he's denying having posted
>> >>>>> >>>> as
>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> "Lamey," but
>> >>>>> >>>> he's lying. He also used to post as "Jack Shit." What a
>> >>>>> >>>> fucking >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> loser.
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> On 6/16/2021 9:22 AM, Lamey wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:19:06 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>> >>>>> >>>>> <js@phendrie.con>
>> >>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/4/2021 9:35 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> This is absolutely true. Research shows that the more new
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> prisons there
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> are,
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the more petty crimes are prosecuted and the harsher and
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> longer
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> sentences.
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> One of the big drivers of this is prison guard unions. The
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> more prisons and
>> >>>>> >>>>>>> prisoners, the more jobs for prison guards.
>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> More support:
>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> "Life Without Parole Isn't Making Us Any Safer"
>> >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/opinion/louisiana-criminal-justice-
>> >>>>> >>>>>> reform.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
>> >>>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>>> That's a true statement. Life without parole is another
>> >>>>> >>>>>> gimmick
>> >>>>> >>>>>> to fill up
>> >>>>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>> >>>>>> prisons.
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>> It's called doing time for the crime you dingbat.
>> >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> Life without parole for robbing a bank of $5,000 is simply
>> >>>>> >>>> wrong.
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> Then dont do it.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> A tiny number of people do, though, and will continue to do so.
>> >>>>> >> >> Point >>
>> >>>>> is that
>> >>>>> >> people can and do change while in prison.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Somehow, I bet it wasn't just the $5,000 that was taken.. I'm
>> >>>>> > pretty > >
>> >>>>> sure
>> >>>>> one or
>> >>>>> > more people died due to a direct result of that crime. It is
>> >>>>> > those > >
>> >>>>> deaths
>> >>>>> that
>> >>>>> > put you in prison without parole.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> No one was killed in the bank robbery, scooter. Shots were fired,
>> >>>>> but no
>> >>>>> one was
>> >>>>> hit. The sentence imposed was *solely* for the robbery, scooter. If
>> >>>>> you think
>> >>>>> there was some other element to the sentencing, scooter, trot out
>> >>>>> your
>> >>>>> evidence.
>> >>>>> But you don't have any and you never will.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If shots were fired than attempted murder should be on there.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> Does it make sense to imprison someone for having robbed a bank
>> >>>>> >> for >>
>> >>>>> >> 5K
>> >>>>> some 5
>> >>>>> >> years ago? 10? 50? A year ago?
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Well.. we could always just execute them.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That's not going to happen, scooter. You are not going to get the
>> >>>>> despotic
>> >>>>> state
>> >>>>> that you want. You can move to North Korea if you want to live in a
>> >>>>> state that
>> >>>>> summarily executes people for jaywalking, scooter.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No they don't.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > However, show me a case were someone was given like [life] just
>> >>>>> > for >
>> >>>>> robbing a bank
>> >>>>> > of 5K... can't be for any other crime just the robbery of the
>> >>>>> > money.
>> >>>>> *This* case, scooter ? the case of Robert Richardson detailed in
>> >>>>> the New York
>> >>>>> Times (Gold Standard) story above. Richardson robbed a bank of
>> >>>>> $5,000. No one
>> >>>>> was killed or even injured in the robbery and its aftermath.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And wouldn't you just know it? Richardson is a black man, and he
>> >>>>> was given
>> >>>>> a 60
>> >>>>> year no-parole no-probation sentence in shithole Louisiana. And
>> >>>>> yes, a huge
>> >>>>> majority of such sentences are imposed on black men in red shithole
>> >>>>> states.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Don't do the crime if you don't want the time.
>> >>>
>> >>> If he didn't want the time, he should have taken the plea deal
>> >>
>> >> Cite that there was a plea deal, scooter.
>> >
>> > "In 1997 she and her husband Robert Richardson were convicted of a bank
>> > robbery
>> > in Louisiana. She got 13 years but was released after three and a half;
>> > Robert
>> > was dissuaded by his lawyer from taking a plea deal. He got 60 years."
>> >
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/15/slavery-time-film-family-torn-
>> > apart-us-jail-industry-garrett-bradley-black
>> >
>> > I acknowledge your admission that you know next to nothing about the
>> > case, and
>> > as such your opinions on the subject are therefore of very little
>> > consequence.
>> >
>> > Rudy, haven't you learned by now.. that I'm almost always right while
>> > you are
>> > almost never right?
>> This is the first time in all your years of pissing away time in Usenet ?
>> at
>> least two decades ? that you have been right, scooter.
>
> He slapped you silly.

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ROPTO.587229$1m96.550329@fx15.iad...
> On 10/28/2024 7:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>
>>
>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <katt@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:TJOSO.207007$15a6.58477@fx12.iad...
>>> On 10/25/2024 7:02 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:XowSO.101994$S9Vb.43068@fx45.iad...
>>>>> On 10/24/2024 8:24 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free
>>>>>> batch of lies:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <vfdkis$2lias$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
>>>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>>>>>>>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>>>>>> content-free batch of lies:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > In article <XnsB21483D3AA2DA629555@185.151.15.190>,
>>>>>>>> > noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>>> > says...
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who
>>>>>>>> >> is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>>> >> > KKKlaun "Cunt Flaps" SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless
>>>>>>>> >> > Nazi >>
>>>>>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> fake Jew and cocksucking dwarf, lied:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> >> [Default] Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional,
>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>>> social, literary and physical superior to KKKlaun >> >>
>>>>>>>> SchittenPantzen, impotent and harmless Nazi fake Jew, *wrote*:
>
> Yep! That certainly is the default, all right! *HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
> HA*!
>
>>>>>>>> >> >> [...]
>>>>>>>> >> All death sentences are more expensive
>>>>>>>> >> than incarceration costs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's only because we make it into a circus, if we chose to do so,
>>>>>>>> we could
>>>>>>>> make it much cheaper by instead of retrying the case over and over
>>>>>>>> and over,
>>>>>>>> simply require that the defense show new evidence or new cause for
>>>>>>>> why the
>>>>>>>> convicted could possibly be show to be innocent, that a procedural
>>>>>>>> error was
>>>>>>>> made during the trial, or that evidence/testimony was reasonably
>>>>>>>> tainted,
>>>>>>>> corrupted or otherwise improper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you can't show that to the court.. the conviction stands and the
>>>>>>>> execution proceeds on track.
>>>>>>>> Further, put a time limit on the whole thing. Say 4 years. If you
>>>>>>>> can't make
>>>>>>>> your case in that time... then it's all but certain you never all.
>>>>>>>> Finally, if it is rejected by the appeals court.. that's the end of
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> There, I've just eliminated 95% of the cost. Freeing up prison
>>>>>>>> space and
>>>>>>>> reducing expenses so we can house the next bad guy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> But since you want
>>>>>>>> >> these executions you don't mind paying for
>>>>>>>> >> them, no?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We already are. However, if you feel the costs are too high, we can
>>>>>>>> certainly streamline the process by eliminating long times you can
>>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>>> appeal, the endless stream of appeals, and narrow it down to a
>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>> hearing in which the defense presents their case to a judge who
>>>>>>>> decides
>>>>>>>> whether any of the facts established at trial would need to be
>>>>>>>> reexamined in
>>>>>>>> the light of new evidence provided or proof of a procedural or
>>>>>>>> judicial
>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you can't.. then you have no case. and the execution can be
>>>>>>>> carried out
>>>>>>>> immediately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See, it's not the execution that is so expensive but the endless
>>>>>>>> round of
>>>>>>>> appeals, stays, delays, and other legal maneuvers. As it is, you
>>>>>>>> have the
>>>>>>>> defense, a representative from the prosecutor's office and the
>>>>>>>> judge who can
>>>>>>>> review any new evidence or proof of errors made during trial that
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> reasonably impact the jury's finding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3 people.. maybe 2 hours... and if it fails we can carry out the
>>>>>>>> execution
>>>>>>>> that evening.. without muss, fuss, or great cost.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> True, the only expense really is on the defense.. the judge is
>>>>>>>> already being
>>>>>>>> paid a regular salary and the prosecutors similarly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, if he wants to claim the appeal process is just too
>>>>>>>> expensive.. I
>>>>>>>> set out a plan above how to reduce that and the time needed for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only question now will be what his next excuse will be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like when they say it costs to much to deport. Remove the red
>>>>>>> tape
>>>>>>> and send the fuckers home. Pretty simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, the cost to do so is minimal.. it's the BS that jacks up the
>>>>>> price
>>>>>
>>>>> That "BS" is what differentiates us from North Korea. If you want to
>>>>> live in North Korea, go right ahead, scooter. But we are not going to
>>>>> emulate North Korea.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is with North Korea the border walls are to keep the people
>>>> IN.. ours on the other hand would be to keep them OUT.
>>
>>
>>> That's not the problem, scooter.
>>
>> We know it's not a problem to
>
> You don't understand anything about what is the problem, scooter.