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Subject: Elon & Tesla Learn a Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke
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Tesla Learns Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke

When CEO Elon Musk took a hard turn to the right, the number of Democrats
buying Teslas dropped 60 percent.
By
Collin Woodard
PublishedApril 23, 2024

Things are not going well at Tesla right now. The stock is down more than
$100 per share year-to-date, as many as 20,000 people are set to lose their
jobs, the Cybertruck keeps breaking, operating profit is expected to be
down 40 percent when it�s announced later today and the $25,000 electric
vehicle that Tesla has reportedly been working on is apparently canceled.
As the Wall Street Journal reports, some but not all of that stress can be
attributed to Tesla alienating what was previously its most valuable
demographic � Democrats.

Historically, Democrats have bought Teslas in significantly larger numbers
than people with other political affiliations. As Elon Musk has moved to
the right, interacting with far-right accounts, promoting race �science,�
anti-Semitism, homophobia, transphobia and complaining about the �woke mind
virus,� though, the number of Democrats interested in giving him their
money has dropped significantly. Late last year, that figure reportedly
dropped by more than 60 percent.
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Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived

Unfortunately for Tesla, while Republicans have embraced Musk�s political
heel-turn, they haven�t necessarily been buying his cars in large enough
numbers to offset the sharp drop in interest from left-leaning people.
That�s likely due in part to Republican politicians using EVs as an example
of how Democrats want to destroy the auto industry, control your life and
force you to own nothing and eat bugs.

While surveys have found lower consumer interest in Teslas ever since Musk
bought Twitter, when it came to actual sales, Democrats didn�t really start
to drop off significantly until last October. They made up 40 percent of
Tesla�s sales for the 2022 model year and 39 percent for 2023, yet when the
2024 model year Teslas went on sale, the number of Democrats in the mix
dropped to 15 percent.

Even with Republicans and Independents buying more Teslas, first-quarter
sales still dropped overall, with deliveries down even more significantly.
You didn�t necessarily have to wait for Q1's results to see this coming,
though, as Tesla sales were up 43 percent in California in Q3 but dropped
10 percent in Q4.

For years, Tesla had the exclusivity of its Supercharger network as its
trump card. Other EVs may have been capable of a road trip on paper, but
the non-Tesla charging network is still unreliable at best, so if you
planned to use your EV as more than a daily driver, Tesla was still the
best option available. It may be a coincidence, but late fall is also about
the time that it became clear that every automaker in the U.S. would be
switching to Tesla�s North American Charging Standard and would have access
to the Supercharger network. By allowing non-Teslas to use its charging
network, Tesla may have finally freed Democrats who would have previously
bought a Tesla reluctantly to instead buy their next EV from a competitor.

That said, Democratic sales have rebounded a bit since last fall. By the
end of February, they were back up to 35 percent of Tesla�s sales mix.
�Elon hasn�t been in the press as much as he has previously,� Strategic
Vision�s Alexander Edwards told the Wall Street Journal. �This lack of
negative press and antics, combined with EV [shoppers] today�shopping
various EVs and they find that the Model 3 and Y are still, in their
opinion, the best decision based on value.�

If that�s true, then we�ll be especially interested to see what more recent
numbers look like. The Cybertruck has quickly become a national
embarrassment, with one even being defeated by a simple car wash. And with
even more negative press expected to come out of today�s earnings call,
Musk isn�t exactly doing the best job of staying out of the news these
days, which according to Edwards can only mean bad news for Tesla.

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-may-have-committed-securities-wire-fraud-with-
ex-1851463676

Subject: Re: Elon & Tesla Learn a Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke
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On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:42:30 -0000 (UTC)
Paul Szypula <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Tesla Learns Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke
>
> When CEO Elon Musk took a hard turn to the right, the number of
> Democrats buying Teslas dropped 60 percent.
> By
> Collin Woodard
> PublishedApril 23, 2024
>
>
> Things are not going well at Tesla right now. The stock is down more
> than $100 per share year-to-date, as many as 20,000 people are set to
> lose their jobs, the Cybertruck keeps breaking, operating profit is
> expected to be down 40 percent when it’s announced later today and
> the $25,000 electric vehicle that Tesla has reportedly been working
> on is apparently canceled. As the Wall Street Journal reports, some
> but not all of that stress can be attributed to Tesla alienating what
> was previously its most valuable demographic — Democrats.
>
> Historically, Democrats have bought Teslas in significantly larger
> numbers than people with other political affiliations. As Elon Musk
> has moved to the right, interacting with far-right accounts,
> promoting race “science,” anti-Semitism, homophobia, transphobia and
> complaining about the “woke mind virus,” though, the number of
> Democrats interested in giving him their money has dropped
> significantly. Late last year, that figure reportedly dropped by more
> than 60 percent. Related Content
> It Sure Looks Like Layoffs Are Coming To Tesla
> Tesla Cybertruck Embarrasses Itself In Tug Of War With Silverado HD
> Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived
> 0:16 / 3:47
> Share
> Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived
>
> Unfortunately for Tesla, while Republicans have embraced Musk’s
> political heel-turn, they haven’t necessarily been buying his cars in
> large enough numbers to offset the sharp drop in interest from
> left-leaning people. That’s likely due in part to Republican
> politicians using EVs as an example of how Democrats want to destroy
> the auto industry, control your life and force you to own nothing and
> eat bugs.
>
> While surveys have found lower consumer interest in Teslas ever since
> Musk bought Twitter, when it came to actual sales, Democrats didn’t
> really start to drop off significantly until last October. They made
> up 40 percent of Tesla’s sales for the 2022 model year and 39 percent
> for 2023, yet when the 2024 model year Teslas went on sale, the
> number of Democrats in the mix dropped to 15 percent.
>
I'm calling bullshit right here and now.

I do not for one moment believe that the purchasing process for
acquiring a Tesla involves asking buyers what political party they
support. If they don't ask this question, how can any researcher
POSSIBLY know what the party affiliation of the buyer is, either at the
time of sale or afterwards.

I agree that a sales person could make an educated GUESS, perhaps on
the basis of bumper stickers on the car being traded in but that would
still be a guess and therefore not very good data to use in a
statistical study.

Nope. I think these statistics are completely made up to support the
writer's claim that Musk's politics is hurting his own sales.

And you are either an imbecile for not realizing this before posting it
or are just another liar for propagating this bullshit.

> Even with Republicans and Independents buying more Teslas,
> first-quarter sales still dropped overall, with deliveries down even
> more significantly. You didn’t necessarily have to wait for Q1's
> results to see this coming, though, as Tesla sales were up 43 percent
> in California in Q3 but dropped 10 percent in Q4.
>
> For years, Tesla had the exclusivity of its Supercharger network as
> its trump card. Other EVs may have been capable of a road trip on
> paper, but the non-Tesla charging network is still unreliable at
> best, so if you planned to use your EV as more than a daily driver,
> Tesla was still the best option available. It may be a coincidence,
> but late fall is also about the time that it became clear that every
> automaker in the U.S. would be switching to Tesla’s North American
> Charging Standard and would have access to the Supercharger network.
> By allowing non-Teslas to use its charging network, Tesla may have
> finally freed Democrats who would have previously bought a Tesla
> reluctantly to instead buy their next EV from a competitor.
>
> That said, Democratic sales have rebounded a bit since last fall. By
> the end of February, they were back up to 35 percent of Tesla’s sales
> mix. “Elon hasn’t been in the press as much as he has previously,”
> Strategic Vision’s Alexander Edwards told the Wall Street Journal.
> “This lack of negative press and antics, combined with EV [shoppers]
> today…shopping various EVs and they find that the Model 3 and Y are
> still, in their opinion, the best decision based on value.”
>
> If that’s true, then we’ll be especially interested to see what more
> recent numbers look like. The Cybertruck has quickly become a
> national embarrassment, with one even being defeated by a simple car
> wash. And with even more negative press expected to come out of
> today’s earnings call, Musk isn’t exactly doing the best job of
> staying out of the news these days, which according to Edwards can
> only mean bad news for Tesla.
>
>
> https://jalopnik.com/tesla-may-have-committed-securities-wire-fraud-with-
> ex-1851463676

--
Rhino

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Rhino wrote:
> On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:42:30 -0000 (UTC)
> Paul Szypula <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tesla Learns Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke
>>
>> When CEO Elon Musk took a hard turn to the right, the number of
>> Democrats buying Teslas dropped 60 percent.
>> By
>> Collin Woodard
>> PublishedApril 23, 2024
>>
>>
>> Things are not going well at Tesla right now. The stock is down more
>> than $100 per share year-to-date, as many as 20,000 people are set to
>> lose their jobs, the Cybertruck keeps breaking, operating profit is
>> expected to be down 40 percent when it’s announced later today and
>> the $25,000 electric vehicle that Tesla has reportedly been working
>> on is apparently canceled. As the Wall Street Journal reports, some
>> but not all of that stress can be attributed to Tesla alienating what
>> was previously its most valuable demographic — Democrats.
>>
>> Historically, Democrats have bought Teslas in significantly larger
>> numbers than people with other political affiliations. As Elon Musk
>> has moved to the right, interacting with far-right accounts,
>> promoting race “science,” anti-Semitism, homophobia, transphobia and
>> complaining about the “woke mind virus,” though, the number of
>> Democrats interested in giving him their money has dropped
>> significantly. Late last year, that figure reportedly dropped by more
>> than 60 percent. Related Content
>> It Sure Looks Like Layoffs Are Coming To Tesla
>> Tesla Cybertruck Embarrasses Itself In Tug Of War With Silverado HD
>> Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived
>> 0:16 / 3:47
>> Share
>> Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived
>>
>> Unfortunately for Tesla, while Republicans have embraced Musk’s
>> political heel-turn, they haven’t necessarily been buying his cars in
>> large enough numbers to offset the sharp drop in interest from
>> left-leaning people. That’s likely due in part to Republican
>> politicians using EVs as an example of how Democrats want to destroy
>> the auto industry, control your life and force you to own nothing and
>> eat bugs.
>>
>> While surveys have found lower consumer interest in Teslas ever since
>> Musk bought Twitter, when it came to actual sales, Democrats didn’t
>> really start to drop off significantly until last October. They made
>> up 40 percent of Tesla’s sales for the 2022 model year and 39 percent
>> for 2023, yet when the 2024 model year Teslas went on sale, the
>> number of Democrats in the mix dropped to 15 percent.
>>
> I'm calling bullshit right here and now.
>
> I do not for one moment believe that the purchasing process for
> acquiring a Tesla involves asking buyers what political party they
> support. If they don't ask this question, how can any researcher
> POSSIBLY know what the party affiliation of the buyer is, either at the
> time of sale or afterwards.

ever heard of polls and surveys?

>
> I agree that a sales person could make an educated GUESS, perhaps on
> the basis of bumper stickers on the car being traded in but that would
> still be a guess and therefore not very good data to use in a
> statistical study.
>
> Nope. I think these statistics are completely made up to support the
> writer's claim that Musk's politics is hurting his own sales.

seems logical that lefty greenies would embrace supposedly green technology

>
> And you are either an imbecile for not realizing this before posting it
> or are just another liar for propagating this bullshit.
>
>> Even with Republicans and Independents buying more Teslas,
>> first-quarter sales still dropped overall, with deliveries down even
>> more significantly. You didn’t necessarily have to wait for Q1's
>> results to see this coming, though, as Tesla sales were up 43 percent
>> in California in Q3 but dropped 10 percent in Q4.
>>
>> For years, Tesla had the exclusivity of its Supercharger network as
>> its trump card. Other EVs may have been capable of a road trip on
>> paper, but the non-Tesla charging network is still unreliable at
>> best, so if you planned to use your EV as more than a daily driver,
>> Tesla was still the best option available. It may be a coincidence,
>> but late fall is also about the time that it became clear that every
>> automaker in the U.S. would be switching to Tesla’s North American
>> Charging Standard and would have access to the Supercharger network.
>> By allowing non-Teslas to use its charging network, Tesla may have
>> finally freed Democrats who would have previously bought a Tesla
>> reluctantly to instead buy their next EV from a competitor.
>>
>> That said, Democratic sales have rebounded a bit since last fall. By
>> the end of February, they were back up to 35 percent of Tesla’s sales
>> mix. “Elon hasn’t been in the press as much as he has previously,”
>> Strategic Vision’s Alexander Edwards told the Wall Street Journal.
>> “This lack of negative press and antics, combined with EV [shoppers]
>> today…shopping various EVs and they find that the Model 3 and Y are
>> still, in their opinion, the best decision based on value.”
>>
>> If that’s true, then we’ll be especially interested to see what more
>> recent numbers look like. The Cybertruck has quickly become a
>> national embarrassment, with one even being defeated by a simple car
>> wash. And with even more negative press expected to come out of
>> today’s earnings call, Musk isn’t exactly doing the best job of
>> staying out of the news these days, which according to Edwards can
>> only mean bad news for Tesla.
>>
>>
>> https://jalopnik.com/tesla-may-have-committed-securities-wire-fraud-with-
>> ex-1851463676
>
>

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Subject: Re: Elon & Tesla Learn a Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke
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>Rhino wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:42:30 -0000 (UTC)
>> Paul Szypula <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tesla Learns Hard Lesson: Go Anti-Woke, Go Broke
>>>
>>> When CEO Elon Musk took a hard turn to the right, the number of
>>> Democrats buying Teslas dropped 60 percent.
>>> By
>>> Collin Woodard
>>> PublishedApril 23, 2024
>>>
>>>
>>> Things are not going well at Tesla right now. The stock is down more
>>> than $100 per share year-to-date, as many as 20,000 people are set to
>>> lose their jobs, the Cybertruck keeps breaking, operating profit is
>>> expected to be down 40 percent when it� Ts announced later today and
>>> the $25,000 electric vehicle that Tesla has reportedly been working
>>> on is apparently canceled. As the Wall Street Journal reports, some
>>> but not all of that stress can be attributed to Tesla alienating what
>>> was previously its most valuable demographic � " Democrats.
>>>
>>> Historically, Democrats have bought Teslas in significantly larger
>>> numbers than people with other political affiliations. As Elon Musk
>>> has moved to the right, interacting with far-right accounts,
>>> promoting race � oscience,� anti-Semitism, homophobia, transphobia and
>>> complaining about the � owoke mind virus,� though, the number of
>>> Democrats interested in giving him their money has dropped
>>> significantly. Late last year, that figure reportedly dropped by more
>>> than 60 percent. Related Content
>>> It Sure Looks Like Layoffs Are Coming To Tesla
>>> Tesla Cybertruck Embarrasses Itself In Tug Of War With Silverado HD
>>> Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived
>>> 0:16 / 3:47
>>> Share
>>> Tesla's Cybertruck Has Finally Arrived
>>>
>>> Unfortunately for Tesla, while Republicans have embraced Musk� Ts
>>> political heel-turn, they haven� Tt necessarily been buying his cars in
>>> large enough numbers to offset the sharp drop in interest from
>>> left-leaning people. That� Ts likely due in part to Republican
>>> politicians using EVs as an example of how Democrats want to destroy
>>> the auto industry, control your life and force you to own nothing and
>>> eat bugs.
>>>
>>> While surveys have found lower consumer interest in Teslas ever since
>>> Musk bought Twitter, when it came to actual sales, Democrats didn� Tt
>>> really start to drop off significantly until last October. They made
>>> up 40 percent of Tesla� Ts sales for the 2022 model year and 39 percent
>>> for 2023, yet when the 2024 model year Teslas went on sale, the
>>> number of Democrats in the mix dropped to 15 percent.
>>>
>> I'm calling bullshit right here and now.
>>
>> I do not for one moment believe that the purchasing process for
>> acquiring a Tesla involves asking buyers what political party they
>> support. If they don't ask this question, how can any researcher
>> POSSIBLY know what the party affiliation of the buyer is, either at the
>> time of sale or afterwards.
>
>ever heard of polls and surveys?
>

Don't expect a rightist to know anything about marketing, business or
surveys. Their only source of knowledge is right wing bullshit websites and
social media memes.

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