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Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
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On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
> says...
>>
>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.
>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas' words have
>>>>>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year touting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as
>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United States. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments Mayorkas
>>>>>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured reporters in a video
>>>>>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do, and the key here
>>>>>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme heat, which
>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are experiencing," he added.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief fund remained
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from Congress ahead
>>>>>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the "consequences" of
>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change continues to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known left-wing source,
>>>>>>>>>>> Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of Money Because Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster funds were
>>>>>>>>>>> rerouted to border-related efforts are ?false,? noting the Disaster
>>>>>>>>>>> Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for managing disasters and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s disaster fund, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to allocate additional
>>>>>>>>>>> funding for FEMA?s efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>>> draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, an explosion of
>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires across the West and urgent pleas from Democrats and the White
>>>>>>>>>>> House this month were not enough to persuade Congress to secure new
>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disaster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used any money meant
>>>>>>>>>>> for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never ran out of
>>>>>>>>>> money. Either establish that the budget has been cut or tell us where
>>>>>>>>>> the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant freebies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal migrants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running out of
>>>>>> money for disaster relief, but not because money was used for
>>>>>> unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct
>>>>> Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for a New
>>>>> Competitive Awards Process
>>>>
>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster relief.
>>>
>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>
>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one year and $0 for
>> migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following year there again is $100 billion
>> for disaster relief and an additional $10 billion for migrant/refugee
>> resettlement, fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>
> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
That's a lie and you know it.
--
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Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
From: Michael A Terrell
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On 10/7/2024 7:02 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas' words have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year touting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United States. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments Mayorkas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured reporters in a video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do, and the key here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme heat, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are experiencing," he added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief fund remained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from Congress ahead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the "consequences" of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change continues to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known left-wing source,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of Money Because Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster funds were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rerouted to border-related efforts are ?false,? noting the Disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for managing disasters and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s disaster fund, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to allocate additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for FEMA?s efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, an explosion of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires across the West and urgent pleas from Democrats and the White
>>>>>>>>>>>>> House this month were not enough to persuade Congress to secure new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disaster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used any money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never ran out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> money. Either establish that the budget has been cut or tell us where
>>>>>>>>>>>> the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant freebies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal migrants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running out of
>>>>>>>> money for disaster relief, but not because money was used for
>>>>>>>> unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct
>>>>>>> Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for a New
>>>>>>> Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster relief.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one year and $0 for
>>>> migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following year there again is $100 billion
>>>> for disaster relief and an additional $10 billion for migrant/refugee
>>>> resettlement, fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>>>
>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>> That's a lie and you know it.
>
> Nope.


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On 07 Oct 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad:

> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
> another content-free batch of lies:
>
>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans
>>>>>>>> ,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> words have come back to haunt him as video from earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year touting the Federal Emergency Management
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before Hurricane Helene
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds as hurricane season continued to slam the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> southeastern United States. The organization has enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to handle upcoming weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporters in a video from July. "This is what we do, this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is what they do, and the key here ? is to also make sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>> heat, which certainly some parts of the United States are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing," he added. Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "exercised these muscles, regrettably, year after year"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund remained in a precarious position and needed fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding from Congress ahead of an expected heavy hurricane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> season. In July, he anticipated running out by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "consequences" of increasingly severe weather events as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate change continues to exacerbate disasters such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the taxpayers first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known
>>>>>>>>>>>> left-wing source, Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of Money
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Of Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-
>>>>>>>>>>>> fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-
>>>>>>>>>>>> of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>> funds were rerouted to border-related efforts are ?false,?
>>>>>>>>>>>> noting the Disaster Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for
>>>>>>>>>>>> managing disasters and money meant for the fund ?has not
>>>>>>>>>>>> been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>> fund, and the fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to
>>>>>>>>>>>> allocate additional funding for FEMA?s efforts in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> stopgap funding bill it passed last month, only extending
>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA?s existing funding level and allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, an
>>>>>>>>>>>> explosion of wildfires across the West and urgent pleas
>>>>>>>>>>>> from Democrats and the White House this month were not
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to persuade Congress to secure new funding for
>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disast
>>>>>>>>>>>> er-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used any
>>>>>>>>>>>> money meant for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never ran
>>>>>>>>>>> out of money. Either establish that the budget has been cut
>>>>>>>>>>> or tell us where the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant freebies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal
>>>>>>>> migrants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running out
>>>>>>> of money for disaster relief, but not because money was used for
>>>>>>> unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct
>>>>>> Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for a
>>>>>> New Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>
>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster
>>>>> relief.
>>>>
>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>
>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one
>>> year and $0 for migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following year
>>> there again is $100 billion for disaster relief and an additional
>>> $10 billion for migrant/refugee resettlement, fungibility absolutely
>>> does not apply.
>>
>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
> That's a lie and you know it.


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On 07 Oct 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
some news:mw2NO.378696$WOde.317830@fx09.iad:

> On 10/7/2024 7:02 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
> another content-free batch of lies:
>
>> In article <iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad>,
>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>
>>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>> Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking
>>> do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>
>>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republica
>>>>>>>>>> ns,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words have come back to haunt him as video from earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year touting the Federal Emergency Management
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before Hurricane Helene
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds as hurricane season continued to slam the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southeastern United States. The organization has enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments Mayorkas made in the summer assuring that FEMA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be able to handle upcoming weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporters in a video from July. "This is what we do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is what they do, and the key here ? is to also make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme heat, which certainly some parts of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States are experiencing," he added. Mayorkas stressed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity of weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund remained in a precarious position and needed fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding from Congress ahead of an expected heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "consequences" of increasingly severe weather events as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate change continues to exacerbate disasters such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ly-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the taxpayers first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left-wing source, Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money Because Of Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-beca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds were rerouted to border-related efforts are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?false,? noting the Disaster Relief Fund is a dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund for managing disasters and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster fund, and the fund faces issues after lawmakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> declined to allocate additional funding for FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing it to draw from $20 billion in funds more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an explosion of wildfires across the West and urgent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleas from Democrats and the White House this month were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not enough to persuade Congress to secure new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any money meant for disaster relief on immigrants of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran out of money. Either establish that the budget has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been cut or tell us where the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant
>>>>>>>>>>>> freebies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal
>>>>>>>>>> migrants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running
>>>>>>>>> out of money for disaster relief, but not because money was
>>>>>>>>> used for unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in
>>>>>>>> Direct Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340
>>>>>>>> Million for a New Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster
>>>>>>> relief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one
>>>>> year and $0 for migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following
>>>>> year there again is $100 billion for disaster relief and an
>>>>> additional $10 billion for migrant/refugee resettlement,
>>>>> fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>>>>
>>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>>> That's a lie and you know it.
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Yep. It's a lie, and everyone knows it.


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On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 05:31:09 -0000 (UTC), Tim Marshall <tmarshall@dfw.edu> wrote:

>On 07 Oct 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
>some news:mw2NO.378696$WOde.317830@fx09.iad:
>
>> On 10/7/2024 7:02 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
>> another content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>> Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking
>>>> do-nothing, posted another content-free batch of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republica
>>>>>>>>>>> ns,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words have come back to haunt him as video from earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this year touting the Federal Emergency Management
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before Hurricane Helene
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds as hurricane season continued to slam the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> southeastern United States. The organization has enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments Mayorkas made in the summer assuring that FEMA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be able to handle upcoming weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporters in a video from July. "This is what we do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is what they do, and the key here ? is to also make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme heat, which certainly some parts of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States are experiencing," he added. Mayorkas stressed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity of weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund remained in a precarious position and needed fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding from Congress ahead of an expected heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "consequences" of increasingly severe weather events as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate change continues to exacerbate disasters such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ly-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the taxpayers first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left-wing source, Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money Because Of Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-beca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds were rerouted to border-related efforts are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?false,? noting the Disaster Relief Fund is a dedicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund for managing disasters and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster fund, and the fund faces issues after lawmakers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> declined to allocate additional funding for FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing it to draw from $20 billion in funds more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an explosion of wildfires across the West and urgent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleas from Democrats and the White House this month were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not enough to persuade Congress to secure new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any money meant for disaster relief on immigrants of any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran out of money. Either establish that the budget has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been cut or tell us where the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> freebies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal
>>>>>>>>>>> migrants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running
>>>>>>>>>> out of money for disaster relief, but not because money was
>>>>>>>>>> used for unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in
>>>>>>>>> Direct Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340
>>>>>>>>> Million for a New Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster
>>>>>>>> relief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one
>>>>>> year and $0 for migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following
>>>>>> year there again is $100 billion for disaster relief and an
>>>>>> additional $10 billion for migrant/refugee resettlement,
>>>>>> fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>>>> That's a lie and you know it.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> Yep. It's a lie, and everyone knows it.
>
>Yes everyone knows Democrats are lying about permitting the USA being
>invaded and the facts that they are bending over and treating them as
>conquerers. Democrats have given criminals more than citizens. No wonder
>they don't want them to have guns.


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On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 05:13:10 -0000 (UTC), Tim Marshall <tmarshall@dfw.edu> wrote:

>On 07 Oct 2024, Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> posted
>some news:iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad:
>
>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
>> another content-free batch of lies:
>>
>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
<snip>
>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>
>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one
>>>> year and $0 for migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following year
>>>> there again is $100 billion for disaster relief and an additional
>>>> $10 billion for migrant/refugee resettlement, fungibility absolutely
>>>> does not apply.
>>>
>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>> That's a lie and you know it.
>
>Yes, I know but I'm not about to admit it.

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On 10/8/2024 4:06 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
of lies:

> In article <mw2NO.378696$WOde.317830@fx09.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 10/7/2024 7:02 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>> of lies:
>>
>>> In article <iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another content-free batch
>>>> of lies:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas' words have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year touting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United States. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments Mayorkas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured reporters in a video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do, and the key here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme heat, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are experiencing," he added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief fund remained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from Congress ahead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the "consequences" of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change continues to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known left-wing source,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of Money Because Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster funds were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rerouted to border-related efforts are ?false,? noting the Disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for managing disasters and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s disaster fund, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to allocate additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for FEMA?s efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, an explosion of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires across the West and urgent pleas from Democrats and the White
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House this month were not enough to persuade Congress to secure new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disaster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used any money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never ran out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money. Either establish that the budget has been cut or tell us where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant freebies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal migrants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running out of
>>>>>>>>>> money for disaster relief, but not because money was used for
>>>>>>>>>> unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct
>>>>>>>>> Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for a New
>>>>>>>>> Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster relief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one year and $0 for
>>>>>> migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following year there again is $100 billion
>>>>>> for disaster relief and an additional $10 billion for migrant/refugee
>>>>>> resettlement, fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>>>> That's a lie and you know it.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> Yep. It's a lie, and everyone knows it.
>
> If everyone knows it then why are they saying it's true?


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Michael A Terrell wrote:
> It's not true.

Oh but it IS!!!!

You're going to JAIL for your public death threats on Trump and JD
Vance's families, Rudey:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.


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On 10/8/2024 9:10 AM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
> On 10/8/2024 4:06 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
> content-free batch of lies:
>
>> In article <mw2NO.378696$WOde.317830@fx09.iad>,
>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>
>>> On 10/7/2024 7:02 PM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>> convicted
>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>> content-free batch
>>> of lies:
>>>
>>>> In article <iP_MO.48967$s7Ce.25838@fx46.iad>,
>>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/7/2024 8:17 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off
>>>>> Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
>>>>> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted another
>>>>> content-free batch
>>>>> of lies:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <4ySMO.173545$EEm7.24184@fx16.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> touting the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparedness before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments Mayorkas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporters in a video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the key here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extreme heat, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing," he added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund remained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress ahead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "consequences" of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continues to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support the taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left-wing source,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money Because Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funds were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rerouted to border-related efforts are ?false,? noting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Disaster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for managing disasters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-disaster related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disaster fund, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to allocate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for FEMA?s efforts in the stopgap funding bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it passed last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an explosion of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires across the West and urgent pleas from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Democrats and the White
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> House this month were not enough to persuade Congress to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disaster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any money meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ran out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.  Either establish that the budget has been cut or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell us where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the money went.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant freebies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>>>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>> migrants.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running
>>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>> money for disaster relief, but not because money was used for
>>>>>>>>>>> unauthorized migrants.
>>>>>>>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct
>>>>>>>>>> Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for
>>>>>>>>>> a New
>>>>>>>>>> Competitive Awards Process
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for
>>>>>>>>> disaster relief.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look up the word fungible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nonsense. If $100 billion were allocated for disaster relief one
>>>>>>> year and $0 for
>>>>>>> migrant/refugee resettlement, and the following year there again
>>>>>>> is $100 billion
>>>>>>> for disaster relief and an additional $10 billion for
>>>>>>> migrant/refugee
>>>>>>> resettlement, fungibility absolutely does not apply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fence jumpers are still getting more than our own people.
>>>>> That's a lie and you know it.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Yep. It's a lie, and everyone knows it.
>>
>> If everyone knows it then why are they saying it's true?
>
> Only lying shitworm trolls like you say it's true. It's not true.


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