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Subject: DEBUNKING THE MYTH: Gun control does not and will never work
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Statistics prove gun control works. If you don't accept US numbers,
check neighboring Canada's gun crime rate, it's miniscule less than 2.0 /
100,000. Texas alone is over 22 times that.

>Gun control does not and will never work

Another delusional rightist myth long debunked.

States with the most gun violence share one trait

People can debate the need for more or fewer armed guards at American
schools, the use of active shooter drills and the wisdom of the idea that
maybe even teachers should be packing heat.

But there�s one thing that is indisputable in the available data on gun
violence � and the data is limited since until recently the federal
government was effectively barred from gathering it.

The indisputable fact is that where there are more guns, there are more
gun deaths.

This is true despite Texas Gov. Greg Abbott�s attempt to explain away gun
deaths at the elementary school in his state this weekby comparing them
to gun violence in Chicago.

�I hate to say this, but there are more people who were shot every
weekend in Chicago than there are in schools in Texas,� Abbott said on
Wednesday, arguing stricter gun laws are not a solution.

There are indeed a horrific number of gun deaths in Chicago each year.
CNN has covered the problem.

Butthere are more gun deaths in Texas, by far, than in any other state,
according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Texas suffered 4,164 gun deaths in 2020, the most recent year for which
the CDC has published data.

That�s a rate of 14.2 deaths per 100,000 Texans.

California, by comparison, saw 3,449 deaths, a gun death rate of 8.5.

Texas does not have the highest gun death rate, however. Far from it.

The top states by gun death rates are:

Mississippi � 28.6.
Louisiana � 26.3.
Wyoming � 25.9.
Missouri � 23.9.
Alabama � 23.6.
Alaska � 23.5.

Here�s where the lack of good federal data haunts us. It�s hard to find
solid gun ownership rates. The RAND Corporation, a non-profit research
organization, has tried and published data on average gun ownership by
state between 2007 and 2016.

All of those states with the highest gun death rates are among the ones
with the highest gun ownership rates.

Mississippi � 50% of adults live in a household with a gun.
Louisiana � 48%.
Wyoming � 59%.
Missouri � 48%.
Alabama � 50%.
Alaska � 59%.

Where there are fewer guns, there are fewer gun deaths. The states with
the lowest gun death rates in 2020, per the CDC (alongside the percentage
of homes with a gun in 2007-2016, per RAND) were:

Hawaii � 3.4 (8% of adults live in a household with a gun).
Massachusetts � 3.7 (10%).
New Jersey � 5 (8%).
Rhode Island � 5.1 (11%).
New York � 5.3 (14%).

The advocacy group Everytown for Gun Safety, which endorses stronger gun
laws, takes the CDC data ongun deathsper 100,000 residents and puts that
alongside each state�s gun laws. The states with lower gun violence
ratesare mostly among the states with the strongest gun laws.

Conversely, with the exception of Louisiana, the states with the highest
gun death rates and highest gun ownership rates are among the states
Everytown says have the most lax gun laws.
Most gun deaths are suicides

Obviously mass shootings can happen anywhere, as we saw earlier this
month in Buffalo, New York, and this week in Uvalde, Texas.

But most gun deaths do not involve a mass shooting. Most gun deaths are
suicides. In 2020, 54% of gun deaths in the US were suicides, which are
far less likely to get sustained public attention, according to a Pew
Research Center analysis of CDC data.

CNN wrote in 2019 about the rising suicide rate and a study published in
the journal JAMA Network Open that found higher suicide rates in rural
areas � and, in cities, if there was a gun shop in the neighborhood.
Cities often have higher gun violence rates than states

Chicago does have a horrifically high murder rate, although the guns
there often come from a neighboring state.

There are higher murder rates in other cities, and they�re often in
places with more lax gun laws, like Jackson, Mississippi. Read this CNN
dispatch about murders in Jackson. It is heartbreaking.

According to Everytown�s analysis of FBI data, the cities with the
highest gun homicide rates in 2020 were all in states with lax gun laws:

Jackson, Mississippi � 69 gun homicides per 100,000 people.
Gary, Indiana � 64.
St. Louis � 50.
New Orleans � 48.
Memphis, Tennessee � 47.

Baltimore, where the gun laws are relatively strict, was next.
Murder rates rising

The Covid-19 pandemic has led to a rise in gun violence, and in January,
a CNN analysis found 10 of the nation�s most populous cities set homicide
records last year, mostly because of guns. The cities were: Philadelphia;
Austin, Texas; Columbus, Ohio; Indianapolis; Portland, Oregon; Memphis,
Tennessee; Louisville, Kentucky; Milwaukee; Albuquerque, New Mexico; and
Tucson, Arizona.

In the large cities hardest hit by gun violence, there are areas that are
relatively untouched compared with areas that are under attack, as
researchers from the Brookings Institution found in a report published
last month.

In Chicago, they said, gun homicides in 2019 and 2020were concentrated in
neighborhoods far from the city center �that have long suffered from
severe disinvestment as a result of white flight, and are now centers of
concentrated poverty with predominantly Black residents.�

In other words, it�s generations of neglect and division that help drive
the murder rate in cities. All these deaths � rural suicide, urban murder
and mass shootings everywhere � have one thing in common: guns.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/26/politics/gun-violence-data-what-
matters/index.html

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