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* Re: Trump Lays Groundwork To Chicken Out Of DebateJ Carlson
`- Re: Trump Lays Groundwork To Chicken Out Of DebateLil dwarf Rudey

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Subject: Re: Trump Lays Groundwork To Chicken Out Of Debate
From: J Carlson
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From: j_carlson@gmx.com (J Carlson)
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Subject: Re: Trump Lays Groundwork To Chicken Out Of Debate
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On 8/31/2024 12:03 PM, Tony wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Michael A Terrell <mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut> wrote in
>> news:7nnAO.149796$jia4.13869@fx18.iad:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2024 9:53 AM, Skeeter-Shit "Lamey" Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell,
>>> convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, posted
>>> another content-free batch of lies:
>>>
>>>> In article <XnsB1DE55422F4D7629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:vash2t$gkog$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-08-30, Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness lied:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:29:00 -0700, Byker <byKKKer@do~rag.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/29/2024 4:14 AM, Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness lied:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:33:10 -0700, Byker <byKKKer@do~rag.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/28/2024 4:28 AM, Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness lied:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 07:50:10 -0700, Byker <byKKKer@do~rag.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/2024 4:39 AM, Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness lied:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 15:30:05 +0000, "Lee"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Coward': Critics Mock Trump After Late-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Night Freakout Over Kamala Harris Debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aug 26, 2024,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald TrumpÂ?s critics are putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him on blast after the former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> president hinted that he may pull
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of the scheduled Sept. 10 debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against Vice President Kamala Harris.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump late Sunday night fired off a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rant aimed at debate host ABC on his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Truth Social website, calling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network Â?FAKE NEWSÂ? and attacking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of its personalities by name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â?Why would I do the Debate against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kamala Harris on that network?Â? he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote. Â?Stay tuned!!!Â?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mocked-harris-debate_n_
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66c c23d5e4b077694c46df50
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's worth noting that Kamela is the one trying to change
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rules of the debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The former president derided the network and questioned why
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he would participate, while the vice president called for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each candidateÂ?s microphone to be left on for the entirety
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Sept. 10 event."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump is not whingeing about the minor tweaks to the format
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harris is proposing. He's whingeing about the debate /per
>>>>>>>>>>>> se/. He's scared to death.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly he's not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Clearly he is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clearly he is not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly he is, and clearly you are lying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He's gone everywhere and spoken to all types.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Except into an ABC studio to debate Harris.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet it's HARRIS who is trying to change the rules of the debate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As she should.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why?  You libs complained when Trump wanted different rules yet
>>>>>>> whine when Harris does it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After last nights train wreck of an interview I'm certain that
>>>>>> Kamala's team are in the war room scamming up a way for her to
>>>>>> weasel out of the debate. If she couldn't handle a softball
>>>>>> interview with CNN there is no way she can handle a 2 hour debate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>        Harris has been thru five elections
>>>>> and never chickened out of a debate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As long as SHE can makes the rules.
>>>>>
>>>>>        Trump has been thru two elections
>>>>> and chickened out of debates in both
>>>>> of them.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit
>>>
>>> Nope. He has chickened out of lots of debates. He's a gutless coward.
>>>
>>
>>
>>     Skeeter keeps his head firmly
>> embedded up Trump's ass.
>>
>>
>>
>> Donald Trump Will Skip the Fox News Debate
>> Jan 26, 2016
>> http://tinyurl.com/zxh3td5
>>
>>
>>
>> Donald Trump skipped the GOP debate again.
>> September 28, 2023
>> https://tinyurl.com/bdd8thh5
>>
>>
>> Haley and DeSantis Slam Trump for Skipping GOP Debate
>> jan 11 2024
>> https://tinyurl.com/bdhxsus8
>>
>>
>> Trump says he won't take part in Republican debates
>> August 20, 2023
>> https://tinyurl.com/ycxjsas3
>>
>>
>> Why is Donald Trump skipping another
>> Republican presidential debate?
>>   Nov 08, 2023
>> https://tinyurl.com/4s6azv5k
>>
>>
>> Presidential debate in Miami canceled after
>> Trump refuses to participate virtually
>> OCT 8 2020
>> https://tinyurl.com/2nm72vbw
>>
>
>
> I'd debate the swine on national tv and make a monkey out of him but they'd have
> to restrain me from attacking him.

I wish to fucking christ that when that fat fucking lard-ass was stalking
Hillary Clinton around the stage at their debate in 2016, she had turned around
and viciously kneed him in the groin. That's what I would have done, and I would
do it if I were on a stage with him today. And I would threaten him: "You keep
the fuck away from me, or else I will knock your fucking teeth down your throat."


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Subject: Re: Trump Lays Groundwork To Chicken Out Of Debate
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
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From: dumbasastump@invalid.org (Lil dwarf Rudey)
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J Carlson wrote:
> I wish to fucking christ

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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