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Subject: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump
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When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American
Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision,
saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t
drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become
disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor
American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the
discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning
of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s
filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred
to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers”
for getting killed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

Absolutely he said it. This is not in rational dispute.

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Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

Subject: Re: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump
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In article <7WPzO.466$EFRb.56@fx39.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
>
> When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American
> Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision,
> saying that ?the helicopter couldn?t fly? and that the Secret Service wouldn?t
> drive him there. Neither claim was true.
>
> Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become
> disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor
> American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the
> discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning
> of the scheduled visit, Trump said, ?Why should I go to that cemetery? It?s
> filled with losers.? In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred
> to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as ?suckers?
> for getting killed.
>
> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
>
> Absolutely he said it. This is not in rational dispute.

He showed and Joe didn't.

Subject: Re: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump
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Skeeter wrote:
> In article <7WPzO.466$EFRb.56@fx39.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
>> When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American
>> Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision,
>> saying that ?the helicopter couldn?t fly? and that the Secret Service wouldn?t
>> drive him there. Neither claim was true.
>>
>> Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become
>> disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor
>> American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the
>> discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning
>> of the scheduled visit, Trump said, ?Why should I go to that cemetery? It?s
>> filled with losers.? In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred
>> to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as ?suckers?
>> for getting killed.
>>
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
>>
>> Absolutely he said it. This is not in rational dispute.
>
> He showed and Joe didn't.

He used Arlington for a campaign prop and Joe didn't.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-32/subtitle-A/chapter-V/subchapter-D/part-553#part-553

553.32 Conduct of memorial services and ceremonies.

(c) Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National
Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political
activities.

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In article <vc35e1$1a5nu$2@dont-email.me>, invalide@invalid.invalid
says...
>
> Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <7WPzO.466$EFRb.56@fx39.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
> >> When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American
> >> Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision,
> >> saying that ?the helicopter couldn?t fly? and that the Secret Service wouldn?t
> >> drive him there. Neither claim was true.
> >>
> >> Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become
> >> disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor
> >> American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the
> >> discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning
> >> of the scheduled visit, Trump said, ?Why should I go to that cemetery? It?s
> >> filled with losers.? In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred
> >> to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as ?suckers?
> >> for getting killed.
> >>
> >> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
> >>
> >> Absolutely he said it. This is not in rational dispute.
> >
> > He showed and Joe didn't.
>
> He used Arlington for a campaign prop and Joe didn't.

He had permission. You can't win this one.
>
> https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-32/subtitle-A/chapter-V/subchapter-D/part-553#part-553
>
> 553.32 Conduct of memorial services and ceremonies.
>
> (c) Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National
> Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political
> activities.

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Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vc35e1$1a5nu$2@dont-email.me>, invalide@invalid.invalid
> says...
>>
>> Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <7WPzO.466$EFRb.56@fx39.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
>>>> When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American
>>>> Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision,
>>>> saying that ?the helicopter couldn?t fly? and that the Secret Service wouldn?t
>>>> drive him there. Neither claim was true.
>>>>
>>>> Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become
>>>> disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor
>>>> American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the
>>>> discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning
>>>> of the scheduled visit, Trump said, ?Why should I go to that cemetery? It?s
>>>> filled with losers.? In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred
>>>> to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as ?suckers?
>>>> for getting killed.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely he said it. This is not in rational dispute.
>>>
>>> He showed and Joe didn't.
>>
>> He used Arlington for a campaign prop and Joe didn't.
>
> He had permission. You can't win this one.

There was NO permission *possible* to use it for
political purposes. NONE.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-32/subtitle-A/chapter-V/subchapter-D/part-553#part-553

553.32 Conduct of memorial services and ceremonies.

(c) Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National
Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political
activities.

You lost this one.

>> https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-32/subtitle-A/chapter-V/subchapter-D/part-553#part-553
>>
>> 553.32 Conduct of memorial services and ceremonies.
>>
>> (c) Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National
>> Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political
>> activities.
>
>

That secret you've been guarding, isn't.

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Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump	Rudy Canoza
Re: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump	Skeeter
Re: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump	Gronk
Re: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump	Skeeter
Re: Dead soldiers are "suckers and losers," according to Trump	Gronk