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* Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist polTony Smith
`* Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialistChris Ahlstrom
 +- Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialistpothead
 `* Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialistGovernor Swill
  +* Is Trump's honeymoon over?Chris Ahlstrom
  |`- Re: Is Trump's honeymoon over?Governor Swill
  `- Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialistSkeeter

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Subject: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
From: Tony Smith
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From: tonysmith@invalid.x (Tony Smith)
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Subject: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
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Liberal media support for Kamala Harris appears to be waning as several
outlets this week slammed her 'communist' plan to control food prices.

Harris has enjoyed fawning coverage from left-leaning publications since
her presidential campaign began on July 21 - despite repeatedly refusing
interviews with the press.

But after announcing a new policy this week to tame inflation by
introducing a federal ban on 'price gouging,' the Democrat appeared to
send her honeymoon period to a crashing end.

An op-ed published by the Washington Post wrote: 'It's hard to exaggerate
how bad Kamala Harris' price-gouging proposal is.' The outlet added it
gave rise to criticisms the candidate - who has repeatedly modelled
herself as a moderate Democrat - is a 'communist' after Trump
sensationally labelled her 'Comrade Kamala.'

CNN anchor Abby Phillip also scoffed as she discussed the plan on-air
Thursday while a Newsweek headline stated it was 'riddled with problems.'

Price gouging refers to when big corporations raise prices higher than
what is considered reasonable or fair during times of high inflation or
limited supply.

It has been a hot political discussion since inflation started rising in
2021, rocketing to a high of 9.1 percent in June 2022 before cooling to an
annual rate of 2.9 percent last month. It means food prices remain 21
percent higher than they were three years ago.

Harris this week insisted soaring costs at the grocery store are being
exacerbated by greedy businesses as she laid out plans to crack down on
'excessive corporate profits.'

It prompted a wave of criticism pointing out the plan would only lead to
product shortages, black markets and hoarding.

The Post ran an editorial titled: 'When your opponent calls you
�communist,� maybe don�t propose price controls?'

The title was in reference to comments made by Trump likening Harris'
price gouging controls to a plan from 'the old Soviet Union.'

Post writer Catherine Rampell added the proposal lacked detail and failed
to clarify how lawmakers would define 'excessive' profits.

'It is, in all but name, a sweeping set of government-enforced price
controls across the industry, not only food,' she wrote.

'Supply and demand would no longer determine prices or profit levels. Far-
of Washington bureaucrats would. The FTC [Federal Trade Commission] would
be able to tell, say, a Kroger in Ohio the acceptable price it can charge
for milk.'

It marked an astonishing u-turn for the historically left-leaning Post
whose coverage of the politician has been consistently positive and has
included recent op-eds titled: 'The versatility of Kamala Harris' and
'Harris' expanding path to victory.'

But Rampell later rowed back on the criticism after hearing Harris' speech
in North Carolina on Friday, writing on X: 'Her comments on prices were
more toned down than campaign factsheet sent to reporters.'

The journalist said she 'supported' a more generic call to increase anti-
trust protections.

CNN was similarly skeptical of Harris' price-gouging plans. Anchor Abby
Phillips used a segment on Thursday to read aloud criticisms by National
Review author Noah Rothman which claimed the policy was designed to
'pander to the economically illiterate.'

She scoffed as she asked a panel of guests: 'Is this just a ploy? Because
it sounds kind of like it.'

Phillips was rebuffed by Vanderbilt University professor Michael Eric
Dyson who insisted it was 'good policy.'

Meanwhile Newsweek reporter Jesus Mesa noted Harris had failed 'to take
into account that grocery stores tend to have razor-thin profit margins,
typically between 1-3 percent far lower than other retail sectors.'

The coverage is no doubt a blow to Harris' campaign which critics say has
benefited from unfairly positive headlines from left-leaning titles who
have sought to reframe her as a more moderate candidate.

Former Republican congressman Zach Wamp last week said the current Vice
President was on a 'honeymoon period.'

He told Sky News Australia: 'The media is kind of helping repackage her as
if she's not a progressive and not a real liberal. Nobody's really holding
her to account.'

Harris has also been criticized for obsessively dodging media interviews.
She has not given a single sit-down interview or formal press conference
despite being three weeks into her presidential campaign.

DailyMail.com reached out to the Harris campaign for comment.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754805/kamala-harris-
washington-post-cnn-criticism.html

Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president
over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
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Tony Smith wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Liberal media support for Kamala Harris appears to be waning as several
> outlets this week slammed her 'communist' plan to control food prices.
>
> <snip long quote from link>
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754805/kamala-harris-washington-post-cnn-criticism.html

I thought CNN has started trending rightward....

--
But, for my own part, it was Greek to me.
-- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"

Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
From: pothead
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Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president
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On 2024-08-19, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Tony Smith wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Liberal media support for Kamala Harris appears to be waning as several
>> outlets this week slammed her 'communist' plan to control food prices.
>>
>> <snip long quote from link>
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754805/kamala-harris-washington-post-cnn-criticism.html
>
> I thought CNN has started trending rightward....

To some degree they have.
Losing viewers and thus advertiser$$$ tends to have that effect.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris = Four More Years Of Obama.
Send Her To The Curb.
Vote snit "Kook Of the Decade".

Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
From: Governor Swill
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Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:58:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Tony Smith wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Liberal media support for Kamala Harris appears to be waning as several
>> outlets this week slammed her 'communist' plan to control food prices.
>>
>> <snip long quote from link>
>>
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754805/kamala-harris-washington-post-cnn-criticism.html
>
>I thought CNN has started trending rightward....

Considering how far left they drifted, I'm glad to see them move back towards the center.

I stopped watching CNN or even using their web site because they'd become utterly useless
with their 24/7 antiTrump broadcasting. You'd have there wasn't any other news in the
world.

#NEVERtrump

Subject: Is Trump's honeymoon over?
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Subject: Is Trump's honeymoon over?
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Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:58:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
>>Tony Smith wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>I thought CNN has started trending rightward....
>
> Considering how far left they drifted, I'm glad to see them move back towards
> the center.
>
> I stopped watching CNN or even using their web site because they'd become
> utterly useless with their 24/7 antiTrump broadcasting. You'd have there
> wasn't any other news in the world.

I hardly ever watch CNN (or any other "cable new" network). The last time I
spent a lot of time watching CNN was over morbid fascination with the
ever-increasing COVID-19 Trump Death Count.

<cola snipped, subject changed>

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Subject: Re: Is Trump's honeymoon over?
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On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:23:07 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

><cola snipped, subject changed>

What do you mean by "cola"?

#NEVERtrump

Subject: Re: Is Kamala's honeymoon over? Liberal media rips vice president over socialist policy that risks tanking the economy
From: Skeeter
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In article <4h58cj1cjj0iiagqvuegr53p1m8igm8tvt@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:58:20 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
> >Tony Smith wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >
> >> Liberal media support for Kamala Harris appears to be waning as several
> >> outlets this week slammed her 'communist' plan to control food prices.
> >>
> >> <snip long quote from link>
> >>
> >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754805/kamala-harris-washington-post-cnn-criticism.html
> >
> >I thought CNN has started trending rightward....
>
> Considering how far left they drifted, I'm glad to see them move back towards the center.
>
> I stopped watching CNN or even using their web site because they'd become utterly useless
> with their 24/7 antiTrump broadcasting. You'd have there wasn't any other news in the
> world.
>
Right up your ally.

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