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* What is the great sin, what is the great shame?Michael Christ
+* Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?Dawn Flood
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Subject: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
From: Michael Christ
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Is it lying?

Is it stealing?

Is it adultery?

Is it murder?

Is it coveting?

Is it deceit?

Is it pretense?

Is it being right in your own eyes?

Is it using your neighbour?

Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious sinners?

No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great shame.
It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
Him underfoot.

Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
mountains;
Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
the Lamb:
Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
to stand?

Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the Lord
with all their heart, soul, and mind.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
From: Dawn Flood
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On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> Is it lying?
>
> Is it stealing?
>
> Is it adultery?
>
> Is it murder?
>
> Is it coveting?
>
> Is it deceit?
>
> Is it pretense?
>
> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>
> Is it using your neighbour?
>
> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious sinners?
>
>
>
> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great shame.
> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
> Him underfoot.
>
> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
> mountains;
> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
> the Lamb:
> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
> to stand?
>
> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the Lord
> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>

Cross-posting, to be sure. Usenet needs an alt.religion-christian.crap
group ASAP.

Dawn

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
From: Michael Christ
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 9/05/2024 9:25 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> Is it lying?
>>
>> Is it stealing?
>>
>> Is it adultery?
>>
>> Is it murder?
>>
>> Is it coveting?
>>
>> Is it deceit?
>>
>> Is it pretense?
>>
>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>
>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>
>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>> sinners?
>>
>>
>>
>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>> shame. It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and
>> wiping Him underfoot.
>>
>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
>> and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>> mountains;
>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
>> the Lamb:
>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>> able to stand?
>>
>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the Lord
>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>
>
> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an alt.religion-christian.crap
> group ASAP.
>
> Dawn

We already have many.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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Michael Christ wrote:
> On 9/05/2024 9:25 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> Is it lying?
>>>
>>> Is it stealing?
>>>
>>> Is it adultery?
>>>
>>> Is it murder?
>>>
>>> Is it coveting?
>>>
>>> Is it deceit?
>>>
>>> Is it pretense?
>>>
>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>
>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>
>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>> sinners?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>> shame. It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and
>>> wiping Him underfoot.
>>>
>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
>>> and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of
>>> the mountains;
>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide
>>> us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the
>>> wrath of the Lamb:
>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>> able to stand?
>>>
>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the
>>> Lord with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>>
>>
>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an
>> alt.religion-christian.crap group ASAP.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> We already have many.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
yea but she's not the leader of them

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
From: Michael Christ
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On 9/05/2024 10:37 am, % wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 9:25 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>
>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>
>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>
>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>
>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>
>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>
>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>
>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>
>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>
>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>>> sinners?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>>> shame. It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God
>>>> and wiping Him underfoot.
>>>>
>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the
>>>> rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every
>>>> bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the
>>>> rocks of the mountains;
>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide
>>>> us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the
>>>> wrath of the Lamb:
>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>>> able to stand?
>>>>
>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their
>>>> self-righteous morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those
>>>> who love the Lord with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an
>>> alt.religion-christian.crap group ASAP.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> We already have many.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
> yea but she's not the leader of them

Yes, she wants to be.

Michael Christ
--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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Michael Christ wrote:
> On 9/05/2024 10:37 am, % wrote:
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 9:25 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>>>> sinners?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>>>> shame. It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God
>>>>> and wiping Him underfoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the
>>>>> rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every
>>>>> bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the
>>>>> rocks of the mountains;
>>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide
>>>>> us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the
>>>>> wrath of the Lamb:
>>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>>>> able to stand?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their
>>>>> self-righteous morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those
>>>>> who love the Lord with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an
>>>> alt.religion-christian.crap group ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> We already have many.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>> yea but she's not the leader of them
>
> Yes, she wants to be.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ

this is confirmable

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
From: Michael Christ
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On 9/05/2024 11:16 am, ChristRose wrote:
> ========================
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 18:25:49 -0500,
> Article:<v1h1ls$81t5$2@dont-email.me>,
> Dawn Flood wrote:
> ========================
>
> [..]
>
> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ
> wrote:
>>> Is it lying?
>>>
>>> Is it stealing?
>>>
>>> Is it adultery?
>>>
>>> Is it murder?
>>>
>>> Is it coveting?
>>>
>>> Is it deceit?
>>>
>>> Is it pretense?
>>>
>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>
>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>
>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious sinners?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great shame.
>>> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
>>> Him underfoot.
>>>
>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
>>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>>> mountains;
>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
>>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
>>> the Lamb:
>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
>>> to stand?
>>>
>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the Lord
>>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.

WhoreRosie wrote:
> Another ill-advised, troll post. The
> Bible shows us who is at the top of the
> list of people who go to hell:
>
> “But the cowardly, unbelieving,
> abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
> sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
> shall have their part in the lake which
> burns with fire and brimstone, which is
> the second death.”” (Revelation 21:8,
> NKJV)
>
> So the first people on the list of those
> who go to hell is the "fearful and
> unbelieving".
>
> Since Christ has provided a
> substitutionary atonement for the sins
> of all men by paying their death penalty
> on the cross, men now stand condemned
> for the single sin of unbelief in that
> atonement, which evidences itself in all
> the other sins, but especially
> fearfulness.
>
> ““He who believes in Him is not
> condemned; but he who does not believe
> is condemned already, because he has not
> believed in the name of the only
> begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18, NKJV)
>
>
>> Cross-posting, to be sure. Usenet needs an alt.religion-christian.crap
>> group ASAP.
>
>
> What we need is for trolls like
> "Michael" to stop cross-posting into
> alt.atheism and this group. He does not
> represent or operate on the principles
> of the Christian faith, as laid out in
> the Bible.

Dawn, ChristRose is one of those better quality of religious sinners who
does not want any atheist scum on his nice clean sinner boots.

Since alt.christnet.christianlife has only a very few that post there,
ChristRosie needs plenty of room to post to himself there.

Unfortunately, he only wants his religious theology of
self-justification and saying one has to love God with their heart,
soul, and mind as a bare minimum is just "ill-advised" shit talk to him.

No doubt it is shit talk to you too, Dawn, being an atheist?

Michael Christ

PS: SinnerRosie is pretending to be the truth while trying to steal
righteousness for himself. It is a synagogue of Satan thang.

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."


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On 5/8/24 10:14 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>On 9/05/2024 11:16 am, ChristRose wrote:
>> ========================
>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 18:25:49 -0500,
>> Article:<v1h1ls$81t5$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>> ========================
>>
>> [..]
>>
>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ
>> wrote:
>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>
>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>
>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>
>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>
>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>
>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>
>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>
>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>
>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>
>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious sinners?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great shame.
>>>> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
>>>> Him underfoot.
>>>>
>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
>>>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>>>> mountains;
>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
>>>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
>>>> the Lamb:
>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
>>>> to stand?
>>>>
>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the Lord
>>>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>
>WhoreRosie wrote:
>> Another ill-advised, troll post. The
>> Bible shows us who is at the top of the
>> list of people who go to hell:
>>
>> “But the cowardly, unbelieving,
>> abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
>> sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
>> shall have their part in the lake which
>> burns with fire and brimstone, which is
>> the second death.”” (Revelation 21:8,
>> NKJV)
>>
>> So the first people on the list of those
>> who go to hell is the "fearful and
>> unbelieving".
>>
>> Since Christ has provided a
>> substitutionary atonement for the sins
>> of all men by paying their death penalty
>> on the cross, men now stand condemned
>> for the single sin of unbelief in that
>> atonement, which evidences itself in all
>> the other sins, but especially
>> fearfulness.
>>
>> ““He who believes in Him is not
>> condemned; but he who does not believe
>> is condemned already, because he has not
>> believed in the name of the only
>> begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18, NKJV)
>>
>>
>>> Cross-posting, to be sure. Usenet needs an alt.religion-christian.crap
>>> group ASAP.
>>
>>
>> What we need is for trolls like
>> "Michael" to stop cross-posting into
>> alt.atheism and this group. He does not
>> represent or operate on the principles
>> of the Christian faith, as laid out in
>> the Bible.
>
>Dawn, ChristRose is one of those better quality of religious sinners who
>does not want any atheist scum on his nice clean sinner boots.
>
>Since alt.christnet.christianlife has only a very few that post there,
>ChristRosie needs plenty of room to post to himself there.
>
>Unfortunately, he only wants his religious theology of
>self-justification and saying one has to love God with their heart,
>soul, and mind as a bare minimum is just "ill-advised" shit talk to him.
>
>No doubt it is shit talk to you too, Dawn, being an atheist?
>
>
>
>
>Michael Christ
>
>PS: SinnerRosie is pretending to be the truth while trying to steal
>righteousness for himself. It is a synagogue of Satan thang.
>

You are cross-posting too much, Michael, to the point that most Sys Admins
would regard your conduct as being trolling and/or spamming.

Dawn

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On 10/05/2024 1:26 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/24 10:14 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 11:16 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>> ========================
>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 18:25:49 -0500,
>>> Article:<v1h1ls$81t5$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> ========================
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>>>> sinners?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>>>> shame.
>>>>> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
>>>>> Him underfoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
>>>>> and
>>>>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>>>>> mountains;
>>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
>>>>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
>>>>> the Lamb:
>>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>>>> able
>>>>> to stand?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the Lord
>>>>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>
>> WhoreRosie wrote:
>>> Another ill-advised, troll post. The
>>> Bible shows us who is at the top of the
>>> list of people who go to hell:
>>>
>>> “But the cowardly, unbelieving,
>>> abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
>>> sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
>>> shall have their part in the lake which
>>> burns with fire and brimstone, which is
>>> the second death.”” (Revelation 21:8,
>>> NKJV)
>>>
>>> So the first people on the list of those
>>> who go to hell is the "fearful and
>>> unbelieving".
>>>
>>> Since Christ has provided a
>>> substitutionary atonement for the sins
>>> of all men by paying their death penalty
>>> on the cross, men now stand condemned
>>> for the single sin of unbelief in that
>>> atonement, which evidences itself in all
>>> the other sins, but especially
>>> fearfulness.
>>>
>>> ““He who believes in Him is not
>>> condemned; but he who does not believe
>>> is condemned already, because he has not
>>> believed in the name of the only
>>> begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18, NKJV)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an alt.religion-christian.crap
>>>> group ASAP.
>>>
>>>
>>> What we need is for trolls like
>>> "Michael" to stop cross-posting into
>>> alt.atheism and this group. He does not
>>> represent or operate on the principles
>>> of the Christian faith, as laid out in
>>> the Bible.
>>
>> Dawn, ChristRose is one of those better quality of religious sinners
>> who does not want any atheist scum on his nice clean sinner boots.
>>
>> Since alt.christnet.christianlife has only a very few that post there,
>> ChristRosie needs plenty of room to post to himself there.
>>
>> Unfortunately, he only wants his religious theology of
>> self-justification and saying one has to love God with their heart,
>> soul, and mind as a bare minimum is just "ill-advised" shit talk to him.
>>
>> No doubt it is shit talk to you too, Dawn, being an atheist?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>> PS: SinnerRosie is pretending to be the truth while trying to steal
>> righteousness for himself. It is a synagogue of Satan thang.
>>
>
> You are cross-posting too much, Michael, to the point that most Sys Admins
> would regard your conduct as being trolling and/or spamming.
>
> Dawn

Dawn, honey, you are just trying to be righteous like the sinner
religionists.

When you are pure and holy, let me know.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
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On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:22:13 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:

> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
> mountains;
> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
> the Lamb:
> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
> to stand?

Point of order here:

Why is it okay for Michael to quote the Bible, but if someone
else quotes it, he comes unglued?

Hypocrisy? Jealousy? Or both?

(Now, watch him clap back with some lamer reply
about self-righteousness, and remember, it
will be _Michael_ saying it.)

--
-c

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
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Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/24 10:14 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 11:16 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>> ========================
>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 18:25:49 -0500,
>>> Article:<v1h1ls$81t5$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> ========================
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>>>> sinners?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>>>> shame.
>>>>> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
>>>>> Him underfoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every
>>>>> bondman, and
>>>>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>>>>> mountains;
>>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and
>>>>> hide us
>>>>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the
>>>>> wrath of
>>>>> the Lamb:
>>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>>>> able
>>>>> to stand?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the
>>>>> Lord
>>>>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>
>> WhoreRosie wrote:
>>> Another ill-advised, troll post. The
>>> Bible shows us who is at the top of the
>>> list of people who go to hell:
>>>
>>> “But the cowardly, unbelieving,
>>> abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
>>> sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
>>> shall have their part in the lake which
>>> burns with fire and brimstone, which is
>>> the second death.”” (Revelation 21:8,
>>> NKJV)
>>>
>>> So the first people on the list of those
>>> who go to hell is the "fearful and
>>> unbelieving".
>>>
>>> Since Christ has provided a
>>> substitutionary atonement for the sins
>>> of all men by paying their death penalty
>>> on the cross, men now stand condemned
>>> for the single sin of unbelief in that
>>> atonement, which evidences itself in all
>>> the other sins, but especially
>>> fearfulness.
>>>
>>> ““He who believes in Him is not
>>> condemned; but he who does not believe
>>> is condemned already, because he has not
>>> believed in the name of the only
>>> begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18, NKJV)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an
>>>> alt.religion-christian.crap
>>>> group ASAP.
>>>
>>>
>>> What we need is for trolls like
>>> "Michael" to stop cross-posting into
>>> alt.atheism and this group. He does not
>>> represent or operate on the principles
>>> of the Christian faith, as laid out in
>>> the Bible.
>>
>> Dawn, ChristRose is one of those better quality of religious sinners
>> who does not want any atheist scum on his nice clean sinner boots.
>>
>> Since alt.christnet.christianlife has only a very few that post
>> there, ChristRosie needs plenty of room to post to himself there.
>>
>> Unfortunately, he only wants his religious theology of
>> self-justification and saying one has to love God with their heart,
>> soul, and mind as a bare minimum is just "ill-advised" shit talk to him.
>>
>> No doubt it is shit talk to you too, Dawn, being an atheist?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Christ
>>
>> PS: SinnerRosie is pretending to be the truth while trying to steal
>> righteousness for himself. It is a synagogue of Satan thang.
>>
>
> You are cross-posting too much, Michael, to the point that most Sys
> Admins
> would regard your conduct as being trolling and/or spamming.

it is

>
> Dawn

--
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"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

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Michael Christ wrote:
> On 10/05/2024 1:26 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/24 10:14 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 11:16 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>>> ========================
>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 18:25:49 -0500,
>>>> Article:<v1h1ls$81t5$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> ========================
>>>>
>>>> [..]
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>>>>> sinners?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>>>>> shame.
>>>>>> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
>>>>>> Him underfoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>>>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every
>>>>>> bondman, and
>>>>>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>>>>>> mountains;
>>>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and
>>>>>> hide us
>>>>>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the
>>>>>> wrath of
>>>>>> the Lamb:
>>>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to stand?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>>>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the
>>>>>> Lord
>>>>>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>>
>>> WhoreRosie wrote:
>>>> Another ill-advised, troll post. The
>>>> Bible shows us who is at the top of the
>>>> list of people who go to hell:
>>>>
>>>> “But the cowardly, unbelieving,
>>>> abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
>>>> sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
>>>> shall have their part in the lake which
>>>> burns with fire and brimstone, which is
>>>> the second death.”” (Revelation 21:8,
>>>> NKJV)
>>>>
>>>> So the first people on the list of those
>>>> who go to hell is the "fearful and
>>>> unbelieving".
>>>>
>>>> Since Christ has provided a
>>>> substitutionary atonement for the sins
>>>> of all men by paying their death penalty
>>>> on the cross, men now stand condemned
>>>> for the single sin of unbelief in that
>>>> atonement, which evidences itself in all
>>>> the other sins, but especially
>>>> fearfulness.
>>>>
>>>> ““He who believes in Him is not
>>>> condemned; but he who does not believe
>>>> is condemned already, because he has not
>>>> believed in the name of the only
>>>> begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18, NKJV)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an
>>>>> alt.religion-christian.crap
>>>>> group ASAP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What we need is for trolls like
>>>> "Michael" to stop cross-posting into
>>>> alt.atheism and this group. He does not
>>>> represent or operate on the principles
>>>> of the Christian faith, as laid out in
>>>> the Bible.
>>>
>>> Dawn, ChristRose is one of those better quality of religious sinners
>>> who does not want any atheist scum on his nice clean sinner boots.
>>>
>>> Since alt.christnet.christianlife has only a very few that post
>>> there, ChristRosie needs plenty of room to post to himself there.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, he only wants his religious theology of
>>> self-justification and saying one has to love God with their heart,
>>> soul, and mind as a bare minimum is just "ill-advised" shit talk to him.
>>>
>>> No doubt it is shit talk to you too, Dawn, being an atheist?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> PS: SinnerRosie is pretending to be the truth while trying to steal
>>> righteousness for himself. It is a synagogue of Satan thang.
>>>
>>
>> You are cross-posting too much, Michael, to the point that most Sys
>> Admins
>> would regard your conduct as being trolling and/or spamming.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Dawn, honey, you are just trying to be righteous like the sinner
> religionists.
>
> When you are pure and holy, let me know.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Christ
>
>
she's holy already

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Maximus wrote:
> Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/24 10:14 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 11:16 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>>> ========================
>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 18:25:49 -0500,
>>>> Article:<v1h1ls$81t5$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> ========================
>>>>
>>>> [..]
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:22 PM, Michael Christ
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is it lying?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it stealing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it adultery?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it murder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it coveting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it deceit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it pretense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it being right in your own eyes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it using your neighbour?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it not obeying the morals and religious doctrines of religious
>>>>>> sinners?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, continual sinner, there is only one great sin, only one great
>>>>>> shame.
>>>>>> It is taking the mercy, the grace, and the goodness of God and wiping
>>>>>> Him underfoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>>>>>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every
>>>>>> bondman, and
>>>>>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>>>>>> mountains;
>>>>>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and
>>>>>> hide us
>>>>>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the
>>>>>> wrath of
>>>>>> the Lamb:
>>>>>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to stand?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is able to stand? Only those who have thrown their self-righteous
>>>>>> morality into the sewer where it belongs, only those who love the
>>>>>> Lord
>>>>>> with all their heart, soul, and mind.
>>>
>>> WhoreRosie wrote:
>>>> Another ill-advised, troll post. The
>>>> Bible shows us who is at the top of the
>>>> list of people who go to hell:
>>>>
>>>> “But the cowardly, unbelieving,
>>>> abominable, murderers, sexually immoral,
>>>> sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
>>>> shall have their part in the lake which
>>>> burns with fire and brimstone, which is
>>>> the second death.”” (Revelation 21:8,
>>>> NKJV)
>>>>
>>>> So the first people on the list of those
>>>> who go to hell is the "fearful and
>>>> unbelieving".
>>>>
>>>> Since Christ has provided a
>>>> substitutionary atonement for the sins
>>>> of all men by paying their death penalty
>>>> on the cross, men now stand condemned
>>>> for the single sin of unbelief in that
>>>> atonement, which evidences itself in all
>>>> the other sins, but especially
>>>> fearfulness.
>>>>
>>>> ““He who believes in Him is not
>>>> condemned; but he who does not believe
>>>> is condemned already, because he has not
>>>> believed in the name of the only
>>>> begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18, NKJV)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cross-posting, to be sure.  Usenet needs an
>>>>> alt.religion-christian.crap
>>>>> group ASAP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What we need is for trolls like
>>>> "Michael" to stop cross-posting into
>>>> alt.atheism and this group. He does not
>>>> represent or operate on the principles
>>>> of the Christian faith, as laid out in
>>>> the Bible.
>>>
>>> Dawn, ChristRose is one of those better quality of religious sinners
>>> who does not want any atheist scum on his nice clean sinner boots.
>>>
>>> Since alt.christnet.christianlife has only a very few that post
>>> there, ChristRosie needs plenty of room to post to himself there.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, he only wants his religious theology of
>>> self-justification and saying one has to love God with their heart,
>>> soul, and mind as a bare minimum is just "ill-advised" shit talk to him.
>>>
>>> No doubt it is shit talk to you too, Dawn, being an atheist?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Christ
>>>
>>> PS: SinnerRosie is pretending to be the truth while trying to steal
>>> righteousness for himself. It is a synagogue of Satan thang.
>>>
>>
>> You are cross-posting too much, Michael, to the point that most Sys
>> Admins
>> would regard your conduct as being trolling and/or spamming.
>
> it is
>
>>
>> Dawn
>
>
no it's not at least not compared to ,
things i've seen you do here

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
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Creon wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:22:13 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>> mountains;
>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
>> the Lamb:
>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
>> to stand?
> Point of order here:
>
> Why is it okay for Michael to quote the Bible, but if someone
> else quotes it, he comes unglued?
>
> Hypocrisy? Jealousy? Or both?

he's wacko, don't bother about it

>
> (Now, watch him clap back with some lamer reply
> about self-righteousness, and remember, it
> will be _Michael_ saying it.)
>

--
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"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Subject: Re: What is the great sin, what is the great shame?
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On 10/05/2024 11:23 am, Creon wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:22:13 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich
>> men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and
>> every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the
>> mountains;
>> Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us
>> from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of
>> the Lamb:
>> Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able
>> to stand?

Creon, the point of order king, wrote:
> Point of order here:
>
> Why is it okay for Michael to quote the Bible, but if someone
> else quotes it, he comes unglued?

If I am unglued you better stand clear, I might be dangerous.

Michael Christ

> Hypocrisy? Jealousy? Or both?
>
> (Now, watch him clap back with some lamer reply
> about self-righteousness, and remember, it
> will be _Michael_ saying it.)

--
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Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
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"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

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