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* Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistDavid Hartung
+- Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistChips Loral
+- Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistJ Carlson
`* Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistTsuno Regular
 `* Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistAlan Bond
  +* Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistSkeeter
  |`* Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistMichael A Terrell
  | `- Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistAltered Beast
  `* Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistAltered Beast
   `- Re: J.D. Vance, the fascistGovernor Swill

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Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
From: David Hartung
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On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>
> By Michelle Goldberg
> Aug. 5, 2024
>
> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, who
> is probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that
> Democrats ran a satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington
> pizzeria. But “Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-
> wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with
> endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican
> politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD
> Vance.
>
> The word “fascist” gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it’s hard
> to find a more apt one for “Unhumans,” which came out last month. The
> book argues that leftists don’t deserve the status of human beings —
> that they are, as the title says, unhumans — and that they are waging a
> shadow war against all that is good and decent, which will end in
> apocalyptic slaughter if they are not stopped. “As they are opposed to
> humanity itself, they place themselves outside of the category
> completely, in an entirely new misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,”
> write Posobiec and Lisec.
>
> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of
> an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing
> through the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write,
> “great men of means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt
> for democracy in “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has
> brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect
> innocents from the unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>
> One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who
> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s
> civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him
> to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the
> unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through the voting
> booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed through the
> ballot box.”
>
> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank
> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that
> led the Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader
> of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s
> elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and
> repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.
>
> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement
> for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year,
> there’s long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s
> extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the United
> States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>
> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes
> fascism, *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word.
> Vance is a fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>
> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they
> want their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco,
> Mussolini and Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and
> *call themselves fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>
> --
> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession

What unmitigated garbage.

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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David Hartung wrote:
>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>
>
> What unmitigated garbage

Given the left's history of unrestrained fascism....

In your own home, on your own front porch, watching the gestapo sweep
the otherwise peaceful and empty neighborhood streets when:

https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1823207131769643490

Gov. Tim Walz had his police use paintball guns to shoot Minnesota
residents if they broke curfew by being on their porches during CoViD

"Get in the house!

Light 'em up!"

That right there is as bad as Cruella Whitmer's fascism, and even a step
farther to complete Orwelian destruction of rights.

👁️ 📺 👁️

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>>
>> By Michelle Goldberg
>> Aug. 5, 2024
>>
>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay attention
>> to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, who is probably best
>> known for promoting the conspiracy theory that Democrats ran a satanic child
>> abuse ring beneath a popular Washington pizzeria. But “Unhumans,” an
>> anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co- wrote with the professional
>> ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of the most
>> influential people in Republican politics, including, most significantly,
>> vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
>>
>> The word “fascist” gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it’s hard to find
>> a more apt one for “Unhumans,” which came out last month. The book argues that
>> leftists don’t deserve the status of human beings — that they are, as the
>> title says, unhumans — and that they are waging a shadow war against all that
>> is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic slaughter if they are not
>> stopped. “As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place themselves
>> outside of the category completely, in an entirely new misery-driven
>> subdivision, the unhuman,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>
>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an
>> ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through the
>> French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, “great men of
>> means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in
>> “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has brought us to this
>> conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the
>> unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>
>> One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who
>> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil
>> war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George
>> Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat:
>> “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish
>> national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.”
>>
>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank corners
>> of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the Jan. 6
>> insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean
>> military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government in
>> 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing
>> political enemies from helicopters.
>>
>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for
>> years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there’s long
>> been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s extremely unusual for a
>> candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself with
>> autocratic terror.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>>
>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes fascism,
>> *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word. Vance is a
>> fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>>
>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they want
>> their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco, Mussolini and
>> Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and *call themselves
>> fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>>
>> --
>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>
>
> What unmitigated garbage.

No. I accurately described the book, and I accurately described Vance, the
fascist, gushing over it.

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>>
>> By Michelle Goldberg
>> Aug. 5, 2024
>>
>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
>> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec,
>> who is probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that
>> Democrats ran a satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington
>> pizzeria. But “Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co-
>> wrote with the professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with
>> endorsements from some of the most influential people in Republican
>> politics, including, most significantly, vice-presidential candidate
>> JD Vance.
>>
>> The word “fascist” gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it’s hard
>> to find a more apt one for “Unhumans,” which came out last month. The
>> book argues that leftists don’t deserve the status of human beings —
>> that they are, as the title says, unhumans — and that they are waging
>> a shadow war against all that is good and decent, which will end in
>> apocalyptic slaughter if they are not stopped. “As they are opposed to
>> humanity itself, they place themselves outside of the category
>> completely, in an entirely new misery-driven subdivision, the
>> unhuman,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>
>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation
>> of an ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and
>> continuing through the French Revolution and Communism to today.
>> Often, they write, “great men of means” are required to crush this
>> scourge. The contempt for democracy in “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our
>> study of history has brought us to this conclusion: Democracy has
>> never worked to protect innocents from the unhumans,” write Posobiec
>> and Lisec.
>>
>> One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco,
>> who overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s
>> 1930s civil war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and
>> compare him to George Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work
>> against the unhuman threat: “We do not believe in government through
>> the voting booth. The Spanish national will was never freely expressed
>> through the ballot box.”
>>
>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank
>> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that
>> led the Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader
>> of the Chilean military junta who led a coup against Salvador
>> Allende’s elected government in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture
>> and repression that involved tossing political enemies from helicopters.
>>
>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA
>> movement for years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last
>> year, there’s long been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless,
>> it’s extremely unusual for a candidate for vice president of the
>> United States to openly align himself with autocratic terror.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>>
>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes
>> fascism, *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word.
>> Vance is a fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>>
>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they
>> want their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco,
>> Mussolini and Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and
>> *call themselves fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>>
>> --
>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>
>
> What unmitigated garbage.

It's what those with DD-214s have fought to preserve. I'm of the mind
that everyone should do at least 2-3 years in the uniformed services of
their country.

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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On 8/13/2024 2:02 PM, Tsuno Regular wrote:
> On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>>>
>>> By Michelle Goldberg
>>> Aug. 5, 2024
>>>
>>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
>>> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, who is
>>> probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that Democrats ran a
>>> satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington pizzeria. But
>>> “Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co- wrote with the
>>> professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of
>>> the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most
>>> significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
>>>
>>> The word “fascist” gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it’s hard to
>>> find a more apt one for “Unhumans,” which came out last month. The book
>>> argues that leftists don’t deserve the status of human beings — that they
>>> are, as the title says, unhumans — and that they are waging a shadow war
>>> against all that is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic slaughter
>>> if they are not stopped. “As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place
>>> themselves outside of the category completely, in an entirely new
>>> misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>
>>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an
>>> ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through
>>> the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, “great men
>>> of means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in
>>> “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has brought us to this
>>> conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the
>>> unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>
>>> One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who
>>> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil
>>> war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George
>>> Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat:
>>> “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish
>>> national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.”
>>>
>>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank
>>> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the
>>> Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean
>>> military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government
>>> in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing
>>> political enemies from helicopters.
>>>
>>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for
>>> years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there’s long
>>> been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s extremely unusual for
>>> a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself
>>> with autocratic terror.
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>>>
>>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes fascism,
>>> *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word. Vance is a
>>> fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>>>
>>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they want
>>> their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco, Mussolini and
>>> Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and *call themselves
>>> fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>>
>>
>> What unmitigated garbage.
>
> It's what those with DD-214s have fought to preserve.  I'm of the mind that
> everyone should do at least 2-3 years in the uniformed services of their country.

No. That's involuntary servitude.

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In article <YSPuO.305429$7Lh9.128340@fx12.iad>, bondrock@ifx.net says...
>
> On 8/13/2024 2:02 PM, Tsuno Regular wrote:
> > On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> >> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
> >>>
> >>> By Michelle Goldberg
> >>> Aug. 5, 2024
> >>>
> >>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
> >>> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, who is
> >>> probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that Democrats ran a
> >>> satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington pizzeria. But
> >>> ?Unhumans,? an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co- wrote with the
> >>> professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of
> >>> the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most
> >>> significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
> >>>
> >>> The word ?fascist? gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it?s hard to
> >>> find a more apt one for ?Unhumans,? which came out last month. The book
> >>> argues that leftists don?t deserve the status of human beings ? that they
> >>> are, as the title says, unhumans ? and that they are waging a shadow war
> >>> against all that is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic slaughter
> >>> if they are not stopped. ?As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place
> >>> themselves outside of the category completely, in an entirely new
> >>> misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,? write Posobiec and Lisec.
> >>>
> >>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an
> >>> ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through
> >>> the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, ?great men
> >>> of means? are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in
> >>> ?Unhumans? is not subtle. ?Our study of history has brought us to this
> >>> conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the
> >>> unhumans,? write Posobiec and Lisec.
> >>>
> >>> One of their book?s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who
> >>> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country?s 1930s civil
> >>> war. The authors call him a ?great man of history? and compare him to George
> >>> Washington. They quote him on what doesn?t work against the unhuman threat:
> >>> ?We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish
> >>> national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.?
> >>>
> >>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank
> >>> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the
> >>> Jan. 6 insurrection. ?Unhumans? lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean
> >>> military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende?s elected government
> >>> in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing
> >>> political enemies from helicopters.
> >>>
> >>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for
> >>> years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there?s long
> >>> been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it?s extremely unusual for
> >>> a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself
> >>> with autocratic terror.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
> >>>
> >>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes fascism,
> >>> *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word. Vance is a
> >>> fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
> >>>
> >>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they want
> >>> their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco, Mussolini and
> >>> Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and *call themselves
> >>> fascists*? They *are *fascists.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
> >>
> >>
> >> What unmitigated garbage.
> >
> > It's what those with DD-214s have fought to preserve.  I'm of the mind that
> > everyone should do at least 2-3 years in the uniformed services of their country.
>
> No. That's involuntary servitude.

Just admit you pussed out.

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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On 8/13/2024 2:55 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <YSPuO.305429$7Lh9.128340@fx12.iad>, bondrock@ifx.net says...
>>
>> On 8/13/2024 2:02 PM, Tsuno Regular wrote:
>>> On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>>>>>
>>>>> By Michelle Goldberg
>>>>> Aug. 5, 2024
>>>>>
>>>>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
>>>>> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, who is
>>>>> probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that Democrats ran a
>>>>> satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington pizzeria. But
>>>>> ?Unhumans,? an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co- wrote with the
>>>>> professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of
>>>>> the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most
>>>>> significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
>>>>>
>>>>> The word ?fascist? gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it?s hard to
>>>>> find a more apt one for ?Unhumans,? which came out last month. The book
>>>>> argues that leftists don?t deserve the status of human beings ? that they
>>>>> are, as the title says, unhumans ? and that they are waging a shadow war
>>>>> against all that is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic slaughter
>>>>> if they are not stopped. ?As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place
>>>>> themselves outside of the category completely, in an entirely new
>>>>> misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,? write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>>>
>>>>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an
>>>>> ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through
>>>>> the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, ?great men
>>>>> of means? are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in
>>>>> ?Unhumans? is not subtle. ?Our study of history has brought us to this
>>>>> conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the
>>>>> unhumans,? write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of their book?s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who
>>>>> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country?s 1930s civil
>>>>> war. The authors call him a ?great man of history? and compare him to George
>>>>> Washington. They quote him on what doesn?t work against the unhuman threat:
>>>>> ?We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish
>>>>> national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank
>>>>> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the
>>>>> Jan. 6 insurrection. ?Unhumans? lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean
>>>>> military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende?s elected government
>>>>> in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing
>>>>> political enemies from helicopters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for
>>>>> years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there?s long
>>>>> been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it?s extremely unusual for
>>>>> a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself
>>>>> with autocratic terror.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>>>>>
>>>>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes fascism,
>>>>> *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word. Vance is a
>>>>> fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>>>>>
>>>>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they want
>>>>> their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco, Mussolini and
>>>>> Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and *call themselves
>>>>> fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What unmitigated garbage.
>>>
>>> It's what those with DD-214s have fought to preserve.  I'm of the mind that
>>> everyone should do at least 2-3 years in the uniformed services of their country.
>>
>> No. That's involuntary servitude.
>
> I admit I'm a fascist fuckstain and pussy.

Yes, you are.

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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Michael A Terrell wrote:
> On 8/13/2024 2:55 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted
> child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>
>> In article <YSPuO.305429$7Lh9.128340@fx12.iad>, bondrock@ifx.net says...
>>>
>>> On 8/13/2024 2:02 PM, Tsuno Regular wrote:
>>>> On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Michelle Goldberg
>>>>>> Aug. 5, 2024
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
>>>>>> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack
>>>>>> Posobiec, who is
>>>>>> probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that
>>>>>> Democrats ran a
>>>>>> satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington pizzeria. But
>>>>>> ?Unhumans,? an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co- wrote with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements
>>>>>> from some of
>>>>>> the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most
>>>>>> significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The word ?fascist? gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it?s
>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>> find a more apt one for ?Unhumans,? which came out last month. The
>>>>>> book
>>>>>> argues that leftists don?t deserve the status of human beings ?
>>>>>> that they
>>>>>> are, as the title says, unhumans ? and that they are waging a
>>>>>> shadow war
>>>>>> against all that is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic
>>>>>> slaughter
>>>>>> if they are not stopped. ?As they are opposed to humanity itself,
>>>>>> they place
>>>>>> themselves outside of the category completely, in an entirely new
>>>>>> misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,? write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest
>>>>>> incarnation of an
>>>>>> ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write,
>>>>>> ?great men
>>>>>> of means? are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for
>>>>>> democracy in
>>>>>> ?Unhumans? is not subtle. ?Our study of history has brought us to
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the
>>>>>> unhumans,? write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of their book?s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco
>>>>>> Franco, who
>>>>>> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country?s
>>>>>> 1930s civil
>>>>>> war. The authors call him a ?great man of history? and compare him
>>>>>> to George
>>>>>> Washington. They quote him on what doesn?t work against the
>>>>>> unhuman threat:
>>>>>> ?We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The
>>>>>> Spanish
>>>>>> national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the
>>>>>> dank
>>>>>> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups
>>>>>> that led the
>>>>>> Jan. 6 insurrection. ?Unhumans? lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of
>>>>>> the Chilean
>>>>>> military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende?s elected
>>>>>> government
>>>>>> in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that
>>>>>> involved tossing
>>>>>> political enemies from helicopters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA
>>>>>> movement for
>>>>>> years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year,
>>>>>> there?s long
>>>>>> been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it?s extremely
>>>>>> unusual for
>>>>>> a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly
>>>>>> align himself
>>>>>> with autocratic terror.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes
>>>>>> fascism,
>>>>>> *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word. Vance
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and
>>>>>> they want
>>>>>> their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco,
>>>>>> Mussolini and
>>>>>> Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and *call
>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>> fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What unmitigated garbage.
>>>>
>>>> It's what those with DD-214s have fought to preserve.  I'm of the
>>>> mind that
>>>> everyone should do at least 2-3 years in the uniformed services of
>>>> their country.
>>>
>>> No. That's involuntary servitude.
>>
>> I admit I'm a fascist fuckstain and pussy.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
Skeeter must be high? I've heard of laughing at yourself, but he really
does it best.

Subject: Re: J.D. Vance, the fascist
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Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 14:03:51 -0700, Alan Bond <bondrock@ifx.net> wrote:
>
>> On 8/13/2024 2:02 PM, Tsuno Regular wrote:
>>> On 8/13/2024 12:35 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/24 11:27, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> "JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman"
>>>>>
>>>>> By Michelle Goldberg
>>>>> Aug. 5, 2024
>>>>>
>>>>> In a normal political environment, there would be little need to pay
>>>>> attention to a new book by the far-right provocateur Jack Posobiec, who is
>>>>> probably best known for promoting the conspiracy theory that Democrats ran a
>>>>> satanic child abuse ring beneath a popular Washington pizzeria. But
>>>>> “Unhumans,” an anti-democratic screed that Posobiec co- wrote with the
>>>>> professional ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, comes with endorsements from some of
>>>>> the most influential people in Republican politics, including, most
>>>>> significantly, vice-presidential candidate JD Vance.
>>>>>
>>>>> The word “fascist” gets thrown around a lot in politics, but it’s hard to
>>>>> find a more apt one for “Unhumans,” which came out last month. The book
>>>>> argues that leftists don’t deserve the status of human beings — that they
>>>>> are, as the title says, unhumans — and that they are waging a shadow war
>>>>> against all that is good and decent, which will end in apocalyptic slaughter
>>>>> if they are not stopped. “As they are opposed to humanity itself, they place
>>>>> themselves outside of the category completely, in an entirely new
>>>>> misery-driven subdivision, the unhuman,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>>>
>>>>> As they tell it, modern progressivism is just the latest incarnation of an
>>>>> ancient evil dating back to the late Roman Republic and continuing through
>>>>> the French Revolution and Communism to today. Often, they write, “great men
>>>>> of means” are required to crush this scourge. The contempt for democracy in
>>>>> “Unhumans” is not subtle. “Our study of history has brought us to this
>>>>> conclusion: Democracy has never worked to protect innocents from the
>>>>> unhumans,” write Posobiec and Lisec.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of their book’s heroes is the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who
>>>>> overthrew the democratic Second Spanish Republic in the country’s 1930s civil
>>>>> war. The authors call him a “great man of history” and compare him to George
>>>>> Washington. They quote him on what doesn’t work against the unhuman threat:
>>>>> “We do not believe in government through the voting booth. The Spanish
>>>>> national will was never freely expressed through the ballot box.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Nakedly authoritarian ideas like this one are not uncommon in the dank
>>>>> corners of the reactionary internet, or among the sort of groups that led the
>>>>> Jan. 6 insurrection. “Unhumans” lauds Augusto Pinochet, leader of the Chilean
>>>>> military junta who led a coup against Salvador Allende’s elected government
>>>>> in 1973, ushering in a reign of torture and repression that involved tossing
>>>>> political enemies from helicopters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pinochet-inspired helicopter memes have been common in the MAGA movement for
>>>>> years. And as the historian David Austin Walsh wrote last year, there’s long
>>>>> been a cult of Franco on the right. Nevertheless, it’s extremely unusual for
>>>>> a candidate for vice president of the United States to openly align himself
>>>>> with autocratic terror.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html
>>>>>
>>>>> When you enthusiastically gush over a book that nakedly promotes fascism,
>>>>> *you* are a fascist. It is not a misapplication of the word. Vance is a
>>>>> fascist. MAGA is a fascist movement and always has been.
>>>>>
>>>>> These people admire people who called *themselves* fascists, and they want
>>>>> their government to be *just like* the governments of Franco, Mussolini and
>>>>> Pinochet. So why don't they just drop the pretense and *call themselves
>>>>> fascists*? They *are *fascists.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is in fact a confession
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What unmitigated garbage.
>>>
>>> It's what those with DD-214s have fought to preserve.  I'm of the mind that
>>> everyone should do at least 2-3 years in the uniformed services of their country.
>>
>> No. That's involuntary servitude.
>
> I don't have a problem with it. National service is recognized by many countries as a
> useful tool for unifying populations and efficiently providing services for the
> population.
>
> #nevertrump
>
Einstein should have been a corporal. We don't need E=mc^2. Or even
better, put Einstein on a chain gang in a jail making a quarter an hour.
Guy needs to build some muscle. Make the guy a perpetrator of stolen
valor because he told us what God does. Only the military can fubar
relativity improperly. You get people like Adam Sandler and Martin
Lawrence too dumb to be in public, yet they probably served they are so
goddamn stupid. The first thing you learn in the military is to prey on
the weak. You don't learn anything else. Pauly Shore taught me a bunch
of other tips like eating farts. This is when the guy goes to his
sleeping friend and farts in his face. It's enormously liberating and
certainly better to be an aggressor or else sleep on the top bunk. The
military will shape us all up. Christ wasn't in the military but he
wore a crown of thorns. Same difference. That suffering made him
stronger for when he got off the cross and is why he was able to double
jump into the sky. Don Henley sings, "That little punk never had to
serve" Because his grandson was walking on the fence and that's what
skeeter is always crying about sitting on a fence etcetera. In the
military you take on strong opinions... bred by someone else.

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Well, that was easy.

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