If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>The biggest reason for optimism is that the Dems are running against Trump.

Oh, I have no issue with Republicans. Until the Donald's advent, I
was about as likely to vote one way as the other. We need two healthy
parties; however, the Donald isn't healthy.

If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>That'll suit Trump just fine. He's terrified of Harris!

I see that they've scheduled one. I'll believe it when it happens.

On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 07:44:35 -0500, "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote:

>If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>>The biggest reason for optimism is that the Dems are running against Trump.
>
>Oh, I have no issue with Republicans. Until the Donald's advent, I
>was about as likely to vote one way as the other. We need two healthy
>parties; however, the Donald isn't healthy.

Exactly! Although I reached my breaking point in 1992.

#nevertrump

195 Republicans in the House voted that a woman does not have the right to contraception.
They don't believe in birth control but they do believe in controlling women.

On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 07:45:42 -0500, "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote:

>If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>>That'll suit Trump just fine. He's terrified of Harris!
>
>I see that they've scheduled one. I'll believe it when it happens.

Trump announced at his presser yesterday afternoon that he would do the ABC debate with
Harris scheduled for the tenth.

#nevertrump

Harris calls out Trump and it worked.
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5fJ_NZQxJhY>

Governor Swill wrote:
> a woman does not have the right to contraception.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> it worked.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>>Oh, I have no issue with Republicans. Until the Donald's advent, I
>>was about as likely to vote one way as the other. We need two healthy
>>parties; however, the Donald isn't healthy.
>
>Exactly! Although I reached my breaking point in 1992.

'92? In '92, the Republican party still made sense. I thought Bush,
41 had done an acceptable job, so I voted for a 2nd term. I did not
like Clinton because... well, he was a liar (not so much by today's
standards, I suppose). Yeah, OK... had she given *me* the blow job, I
might have denied it, also, but I still didn't like him. I didn't
break with the GOP until '08, and I *really* liked McCain, but
couldn't do Palin. 2012 was a toss up for me; however, the GOP was
clearly going south quickly then.

Then, of course, the Donald arose.

If history is any guide, the Donald's tenure has probably run its
course by now... pretty much. If he doesn't get elected POTUS in '24,
I expect he'll go down in flames. Of course, he can still do great
damage, but he'll eventually fizzle. Of course, the hard right will
still be there looking for a new standard bearer.

If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>Multiple death threats against Trump:

Do you ever post anything intelligent?

X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> Of course, the hard right will
> still be there looking for a new standard bearer.

He's not 'hard right".

But you remain a toxic leftarded shill for marxism, so yeah...that
sociopathy will disease its way on.

X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:

>> Multiple death threats against Trump:
>
> Do you ever post anything intelligent?
>
Do you support Rudey making public death threats on Trump?

Yes or No?

If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
>
>>> Multiple death threats against Trump:
>>
>> Do you ever post anything intelligent?
>>
>Do you support Rudey making public death threats on Trump?
>
>Yes or No?

I never heard of "Rudey", and I don't care.

On 8/10/2024 5:31 PM, X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>> X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
>>
>>>> Multiple death threats against Trump:
>>>
>>> Do you ever post anything intelligent?
>>>
>> Do you support Rudey making public death threats on Trump?
>>
>> Yes or No?
>
> I never heard of "Rudey", and I don't care.

I can't see who posed the question, as it's not in the attributions, but the
shitbag means me, I have never made any death threats on Trump or anyone else. I
have said that I wish for Trump to die, and I have said I wish for him to be
permanently removed from the American political scene, but neither of those is a
death threat. I suspect it's either spammy whose attribution is missing, and
spammy is a lying cocksucker.

On 8/10/2024 5:31 PM, X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>> X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
>>
>>>> Multiple death threats against Trump:
>>>
>>> Do you ever post anything intelligent?
>>>
>> Do you support Rudey making public death threats on Trump?
>>
>> Yes or No?
>
> I never heard of "Rudey", and I don't care.

Rudy then and don't deny knowing who "it" is.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 13:19:05 -0500, "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> wrote:

>If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>>>Oh, I have no issue with Republicans. Until the Donald's advent, I
>>>was about as likely to vote one way as the other. We need two healthy
>>>parties; however, the Donald isn't healthy.
>>
>>Exactly! Although I reached my breaking point in 1992.
>
>'92? In '92, the Republican party still made sense. I thought Bush,
>41 had done an acceptable job, so I voted for a 2nd term.

I got badly burned in that recession. Ouch! It was Perot that sank Poppy's campaign and
Dole's as well.

>I did not
>like Clinton because... well, he was a liar (not so much by today's
>standards, I suppose). Yeah, OK... had she given *me* the blow job, I
>might have denied it, also, but I still didn't like him. I didn't
>break with the GOP until '08, and I *really* liked McCain, but
>couldn't do Palin. 2012 was a toss up for me; however, the GOP was
>clearly going south quickly then.

I was looking for some younger blood that wasn't so much a hypocrite. The lying thing is
irrelevant because it's universal. Complaining about a poll being a liar is like
complaining that water is wet. Of course, from Trump, we get heavy water.

>Then, of course, the Donald arose.
>
>If history is any guide, the Donald's tenure has probably run its
>course by now... pretty much. If he doesn't get elected POTUS in '24,
>I expect he'll go down in flames. Of course, he can still do great
>damage, but he'll eventually fizzle. Of course, the hard right will
>still be there looking for a new standard bearer.

He lost the pop vote two elections running.

"In the first Times/Siena College swing state polls since her entry into the race, Harris
leads former President Donald Trump by 4 points each in Pennsylvania, Michigan and
Wisconsin among likely voters. It’s a major shift from previous Times/Siena polls, which
found Trump leading Harris and President Joe Biden by an average of 1 or 2 points each
across the same three states."
<https://www.yahoo.com/news/battleground-polls-show-harris-fundamentally-151052149.html>

This is bad news for Trump. Even worse if Harris has any coattails

#nevertrump

If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!

>I can't see who posed the question, as it's not in the attributions, but the
>shitbag means me...

OK, now I know. I see that I'll have to use my next two wishes more
carefully.

In article <o6jkbj9267d22dlnd47btf46ahhr0fthtp@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 19:02:25 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> wrote:
>
> >On 8/10/2024 5:31 PM, X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> >> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
> >>
> >>> X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Multiple death threats against Trump:
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you ever post anything intelligent?
> >>>>
> >>> Do you support Rudey making public death threats on Trump?
> >>>
> >>> Yes or No?
> >>
> >> I never heard of "Rudey", and I don't care.
> >
> >I can't see who posed the question, as it's not in the attributions, but the
> >shitbag means me, I have never made any death threats on Trump or anyone else. I
> >have said that I wish for Trump to die, and I have said I wish for him to be
> >permanently removed from the American political scene, but neither of those is a
> >death threat. I suspect it's either spammy whose attribution is missing, and
> >spammy is a lying cocksucker.
>
> I joked about the shooter that it was a shame he missed.

You weren't joking.

Chippie thinks you and I are the
> same person. That's where his accusation comes from.
>
> He wastes enormous amounts of bandwidth reposting, supposedly, his reporting to the
> authorities and, like the boy who cried wolf, I'm sure they're ignoring him now.

Waisting bandwidth is the dumbest statement ever. How much do we have
left?
>
> I haven't heard a peep.
>
> #nevertrump

In article <sdsuO.400936$a6n5.343000@fx15.iad>, rc.@hendrie.con says...
>
> On 8/12/2024 10:59 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 19:02:25 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/10/2024 5:31 PM, X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> >>> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
> >>>
> >>>> X, formerly known as "!Jones" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Multiple death threats against Trump:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you ever post anything intelligent?
> >>>>>
> >>>> Do you support Rudey making public death threats on Trump?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes or No?
> >>>
> >>> I never heard of "Rudey", and I don't care.
> >>
> >> I can't see who posed the question, as it's not in the attributions, but the
> >> shitbag means me, I have never made any death threats on Trump or anyone else. I
> >> have said that I wish for Trump to die, and I have said I wish for him to be
> >> permanently removed from the American political scene, but neither of those is a
> >> death threat. I suspect it's either spammy whose attribution is missing, and
> >> spammy is a lying cocksucker.
> >
> > I joked about the shooter that it was a shame he missed. Chippie thinks you and I are the
> > same person. That's where his accusation comes from.
>
> A whole shambolic mob of fuckwits keep blabbering that we're the same person,
> and also that I'm several other people that I'm not. A cursory examination of
> headers and posting style would show that I'm not all these other people who
> live rent-free in right-wingnuts' heads.

You change nyms daily fuckwit.
>
> >
> > He wastes enormous amounts of bandwidth reposting, supposedly, his reporting to the
> > authorities and, like the boy who cried wolf, I'm sure they're ignoring him now.
>
> Most people ignore spammy. He's a 75+ year old impotent fuckwit.

You don't know that. How come most here also ignore you?
>
> >
> > I haven't heard a peep.
>
> Neither have I, and I knew I wouldn't. Nothing either one of us posted would be
> interpreted as a credible threat on anyone's life. I suspect the FBI and Secret
> Service have lots of experience looking at supposed "threats" posted to Usenet
> and concluding that it's meaningless bullshit.

Well they can add you to the list.