On 2024-08-09, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-08-08, -hh wrote:
>>> Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>>> Ryan wrote:
>>>>> Trump keeps losing his train
>>>>
>>>> He has a nice plane though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Eh. It’s a 30+ year old 757 that he’s not been able to keep continuously
>>> maintained as flight-worthy. Gives you a clue about his self-proclaimed
>>> “winner billionaire” status.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> So how many planes do you own?
>>
>
> When did I claim to be a billionaire?
>
>
> -hh
>
It's always the poor who criticize the hard working people who are able to afford such luxuries as
planes.
BTW, you don't have to be a billionaire to own a plane. I have 2 friends who own planes and they
aren't even millionaires yet alone billionaires.
Point is, Trump has a plane and a peon like you doesn't.

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

>
>In article <v909gf$376h4$8@dont-email.me>, X@Y.com wrote:
>
>>Trump keeps losing his train of thought. Cognitive experts have theories
>>about why
>
>"But-but-but Trump does it tooo...!!!"
>Except, he does not.
>

Charlie Sykes

Joyless Trump

Normally, I�d rather be eaten by fire ants than sit through a Trump press
conference, but on Thursday, I made the poor life choice of listening to
the former president�s Mar-a-Lago performance.

My quick take: What, in the name of all that is holy, rational, and
coherent did we just listen to?

Most media accounts do not come close to capturing the wretched shambolism
of it all, and some reporters scrabbled desperately for nuggets of
coherence in the former president�s rolling gibberish.

But I want to come back to the main point: What in G-d�s name did we just
watch?

For an hour yesterday afternoon, we were subjected to the maunderings of a
mind utterly untethered from logic, facts, and decency. Trump clearly
suffers from a severe and apparently debilitating case of Crowd Envy; and
we got the customary firehose of bullshit. But that�s hardly new, is it?

This Trump, however, was also something else: a rattled, deflated, joyless,
and frightened figure. There were the usual insults, fabrications, and
lies, but this Trump seemed less menacing than simply old and tired � a man
without a single drop of joie d vivre.

This is Trump losing.

Exit take: If this had been Joe Biden, the media would have been on fire
with speculation and about his cognitive decline and mental health. If
Kamala Harris turned in a performance even remotely like this, it would be
regarded as a full-on disaster. But since this is Trump, it�s just another
Thursday.

**
Some of the savviest takes:

Britian�s Independent captured the moment: �Trump holds seemingly
pointless press conference filled with false claims.�

The Wapo�s Karen Tumulty:

�Unhinged� has become a shopworn word in the years since Donald
Trump descended the escalator in Trump Tower. But the former president�s
hour-long news conference on Thursday afternoon from his Mar-a-Lago estate
in Florida might have been a new personal best�

[The] former president on Thursday veered from grievance to
grievance like a pinball.

Susan Glasser:

As the press conference approached the one-hour mark, Trump seemed
to suddenly remember what he was supposed to be talking about. �It�s about
policy,� he said.

The rest of his riff I offer here in full:

It�s about policy. It�s not about her. I think she�s incompetent.
Because I�ve watched her. She destroyed California, she destroyed San
Fran�everything she�s touched has turned to bad things. I�m not going to
use foul language. But everything she�s touched has turned bad. She�s
incompetent. The reason she�s not doing what I do and she�s not doing what
she should be doing . . . She won�t even do interviews with friendly people
because she can�t do better than Biden . . . and he was never, twenty-five
years ago, the sharpest or brightest bulb in the ceiling, that I can tell
you, O.K.? . . . But he could do interviews at least . . . But she�s, she
should be doing interviews. She doesn�t want to do interviews. And the
reason she doesn�t is No. 1 her policies are so bad . . . And it�s not
going to change because it�s really ultimately not about her as much as
about her policies. She wants open borders, she wants to defund the police
.. . . she wants to take away your guns. Anybody that thinks they�re not
going to come after your guns�you know, when I was President, I totally
protected the guns. I think it�s very important.

Substantive stuff, right?

MSNBC�s Chris Hayes:

This is the kind of performance from Trump that, if the Republican
party was still a functioning institution, would have a lot of people
panicked and wondering about how to get him to drop out.

Hayes again:

If you think Trump�s brain is scrambled now, just wait until he�s
82 with the nuclear codes.

**
BONUS MUST READ: Experts: Trump speech patterns hint of potential cognitive
decline | STAT

�Trump keeps losing his train of thought. Cognitive experts have theories
about why.�

This shifting from topic to topic, with few connections � a pattern of
speech called tangentiality � is one of several disjointed and occasionally
incoherent verbal habits that seem to have increased in Trump�s speech in
recent years, according to interviews with experts in memory, psychology,
and linguistics.

Back in 2017, Trump�s first year in the White House, a STAT analysis
showed Trump�s speaking style had deteriorated since the 1980s. Seven years
on, now that Trump has the GOP presidential nomination, STAT has repeated
the analysis. The experts noted a further reduction in Trump�s linguistic
complexity and, while none said they could give a diagnosis without an
examination, some said certain shifts in his speaking style are potential
indications of cognitive decline.

https://charliesykes.substack.com/p/what-on-earth-did-we-just-see

On 10 Aug 2024 01:49:41 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>It's always the poor who criticize the hard working people who are able to afford such luxuries as
>planes.
>BTW, you don't have to be a billionaire to own a plane. I have 2 friends who own planes and they
>aren't even millionaires yet alone billionaires.
>Point is, Trump has a plane and a peon like you doesn't.

<laughs and points>

#nevertrump
Shea D Vance
Trumplethinskin

Project 2025 and food prices
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e4J7bBTz2p0>

Dangers of Project 2025
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cMY16Dh4ut0

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 Aug 2024 01:49:41 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>
>> It's always the poor who criticize the hard working people who are able
>> to afford such luxuries as
>> planes.
>> BTW, you don't have to be a billionaire to own a plane. I have 2 friends
>> who own planes and they
>> aren't even millionaires yet alone billionaires.
>> Point is, Trump has a plane and a peon like you doesn't.
>
> <laughs and points>

Because of course “Charlie” doesn’t have one either: the best he can do is
to claim some imaginary “friends” who do. Yeah, sure! /s

Meantime, we all have our own personal preferences & priorities for our
hobbies. Some might enjoy VFR a flight enough to join a club, or even buy
their own Cessna/etc…or shooting/hunting, etc

…but that was never the point here: it was the simple observation that a
self-proclaimed billionaire apparently lacked the money to keep his
corporate aircraft flightworthy certified, and that that simple observation
caused the panties to bunch up by the usual suspects, resulting in a whiny,
lame screed that weakly tried to attack the messenger, because they can’t
dispute the facts or their ramifications.

-hh

-hh wrote:
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10 Aug 2024 01:49:41 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's always the poor who criticize the hard working people who are able
>>> to afford such luxuries as
>>> planes.
>>> BTW, you don't have to be a billionaire to own a plane. I have 2 friends
>>> who own planes and they
>>> aren't even millionaires yet alone billionaires.
>>> Point is, Trump has a plane and a peon like you doesn't.
>>
>> <laughs and points>
>
> Because of course “Charlie” doesn’t have one either: the best he can do is
> to claim some imaginary “friends” who do. Yeah, sure! /s
>
> Meantime, we all have our own personal preferences & priorities for our
> hobbies. Some might enjoy VFR a flight enough to join a club, or even buy
> their own Cessna/etc…or shooting/hunting, etc
>
> …but that was never the point here: it was the simple observation that a
> self-proclaimed billionaire apparently lacked the money to keep his
> corporate aircraft flightworthy certified, and that that simple observation
> caused the panties to bunch up by the usual suspects, resulting in a whiny,
> lame screed that weakly tried to attack the messenger, because they can’t
> dispute the facts or their ramifications.
>
> -hh
>

Oh, and in other news…

Trump’s airplane diverted to Billings, Montana instead of going to Bozeman
for his rally.

Anyone care to explain why?

Well, it has been noted that when money is owed to the fueler, they can
refuse to refuel a plane until they get paid.

And AvFuel at Bozeman is sourced by World Fuel Services.
Whereas Billings uses a different company: Edwards.

Hmmm…

But he’s a “Billionaire”, right? /s

-hh

-hh wrote:
> Oh, and in other news…
>
> Trump’s airplane diverted to Billings, Montana instead of going to Bozeman
> for his rally.
>
> Anyone care to explain why?

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/former-president-donald-trump-plane-heading-to-montana-diverted-due-to-a-mechanical-issue-but-landed-safely-nearby-2024-campaign-tim-sheehy-billings-montana-state-university

Trump's plane was en route to Bozeman, Montana, when it was diverted
Friday afternoon to Billings, 142 miles to the east, according to Jenny
Mockel, administrative assistant at Billings Logan International
Airport. Mockel said the former president was continuing to Bozeman via
private jet.

https://www.montanarightnow.com/bozeman/former-president-trump-reroutes-to-billings-it-is-uncertain-if-bozeman-rally-will-be-affected/article_8e04af8a-5691-11ef-8ee7-efddb6f238f9.html

DJ Bauer, reporting from the Bozeman Airport, shared updates from
airport officials. Bozeman airport CEO Brian Springer confirmed that
Trump did in fact land in Billings.

Additionally, Springer confirmed the presidential motorcade that was
awaiting Trump in Bozeman has departed.

There is now uncertainty about Trump's route to Bozeman. Questions
remain whether he will fly from Billings to Bozeman or drive via
motorcade. The rally at Brick Breeden Fieldhouse is planned for tonight
at 8 p.m.

It is not clear if this delay will impact the schedule for this
evening's events.

https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/08/09/donald-trump-plane-diverted-emergency-landing/

A plane carrying former President Donald Trump reportedly made an
emergency landing in Billings, Montana Friday afternoon after it was
diverted due to a mechanical issue.

From Billings, Trump took a private jet to Bozeman, where he’s holding
a Friday night campaign rally.

-hh wrote:
> it was the simple observation that a
> self-proclaimed billionaire apparently lacked the money to keep his
> corporate aircraft flightworthy certified

Which was an outright lie given he is having it re-fitted and one new
engine installed.

But LIE you do, as always.

You are scum.

Governor Swill wrote:
> <laughs and points>

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>> it was the simple observation that a
>> self-proclaimed billionaire apparently lacked the money to keep his
>> corporate aircraft flightworthy certified
>
>
> Which was an outright lie given he is having it re-fitted and one new
> engine installed.

Nope.

It was down for 2 years in need of an engine (2019-2021).

Its refit didn’t start until after the replacement engine was sourced &
installed, as it was flown to Louisiana for said maintenance &
refurbishment … and you can’t deliberately do that flight with only one
engine.

> But LIE you do, as always.
>
> You are scum.

Really? Funny how I keep on having independent news articles which
substantiate what I’m saying, and which debunks your claims:

<https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/from-air-force-one-to-trump-force-one/>

TL;DR: cry harder.

-hh

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 15:51:36 +0100, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>-hh wrote:
>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10 Aug 2024 01:49:41 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's always the poor who criticize the hard working people who are able
>>>> to afford such luxuries as
>>>> planes.
>>>> BTW, you don't have to be a billionaire to own a plane. I have 2 friends
>>>> who own planes and they
>>>> aren't even millionaires yet alone billionaires.
>>>> Point is, Trump has a plane and a peon like you doesn't.
>>>
>>> <laughs and points>
>>
>> Because of course “Charlie” doesn’t have one either: the best he can do is
>> to claim some imaginary “friends” who do. Yeah, sure! /s
>>
>> Meantime, we all have our own personal preferences & priorities for our
>> hobbies. Some might enjoy VFR a flight enough to join a club, or even buy
>> their own Cessna/etc…or shooting/hunting, etc
>>
>> …but that was never the point here: it was the simple observation that a
>> self-proclaimed billionaire apparently lacked the money to keep his
>> corporate aircraft flightworthy certified, and that that simple observation
>> caused the panties to bunch up by the usual suspects, resulting in a whiny,
>> lame screed that weakly tried to attack the messenger, because they can’t
>> dispute the facts or their ramifications.
>>
>> -hh
>>
>
>Oh, and in other news…
>
>Trump’s airplane diverted to Billings, Montana instead of going to Bozeman
>for his rally.
>
>Anyone care to explain why?
>
>Well, it has been noted that when money is owed to the fueler, they can
>refuse to refuel a plane until they get paid.
>
>And AvFuel at Bozeman is sourced by World Fuel Services.
>Whereas Billings uses a different company: Edwards.
>
>Hmmm…
>
>But he’s a “Billionaire”, right? /s
>
>-hh

Years from now the tell all books will tell us all about the paychecks staffers didn't get
and the contractors and hotels that didn't get paid. He owes to several cities for
services totaling in the millions.

#nevertrump