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o Re: Why ian't your "old man" Dead?Michael Christ

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Subject: Re: Why ian't your "old man" Dead?
From: Michael Christ
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 10/05/2024 5:29 am, Robert wrote:
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> “For he that is dead is freed from sin.” (Rom 6:7, KJV)

Amen.

> Lest anyone be deceived, this included all who converse currently as they did
> before.

> “That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is
> corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;” (Eph 4:22, KJV)
>
> Eph 4:26-32 (KJV)

Yes. Not putting on and off, on and off; its impossible anyway. If a man
puts off it will always be off because he is now a new creature.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

There isn't any revolving whore door in Christ Jesus to mistreat the
Lord Jesus on a whim. No one in Christ Jesus abuses or commits adultery
(deceitful lusts) with the world against the One they love with all
their heart.

They just can't. "I am my beloved's" as Song of Songs says.

> 26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

> 27 Neither give place to the devil.

The world.

> 28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with
> his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that
> needeth.

The "steal" means stealing from the Lord (withholding your whole heart),
and working out your own salvation through obedience (good), because He
is worthy. The thing about love is that it is needful (yes, a good
Father is needful of His children He produced). Oh, how often I would
have gathered you as hen gathers her chicks, but you would not,
expresses that "need of heart." That verse is all about the nature of
God and giving Him what all He deserves.

Or you could just look at it with the theology head and talk about
"works based salvation," a big no-no.

However, it is with the heart that one believes unto righteousness, not
studying theology. In other words, it is the heart that really hears
God, not the bible head (ChristRose's big problem).

> 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is
> good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

Corrupt communication is telling lies (like Sinner James saying he does
not lie); it is NOT following the deluded pattern of the moralistic,
fallen human religious understandings of sinners!

Rather, tell the truth, as hard as it may be, and it is with sinners,
which is grace because no one deserves it, that the truth may set the
sinner (self-worshiper) free.

> 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day
> of redemption.
>
> 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking,
> be put away from you, with all malice:

A son of God does not grieve the Holy Spirit. The old man is dead...d.e.a.d.

> 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even
> as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

The Lord has been kind, tenderhearted, and forgiving toward you.

I may as well tell you what happened the other day: I know who and what
you are now by the grace of God, and you know not what you do, so I
hereby forgive you for all the great wrongs you have done to me and free
you of all accountability.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"


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