Rudy Canoza wrote:
> You don't know anything about politics.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:13:34 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:

>On 8/6/24 19:57, Dave Wainwright wrote:
>> On 8/6/2024 2:27 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 8/6/24 16:19, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>> David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/24 11:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/us/politics/trump-harris-walz-gop-reaction.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I attack Vance as "dangerously fascist," but the difference is I'm
>>>>>> right and the Trump campaign is wrong, and that is all there is to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that you know nothing about fascism, you are not qualified to
>>>>> comment
>>>>
>>>> And yet, even with his stunted, illiterate, "both ends against the
>>>> middle" act here - he almost single-underhandedly portrays pure
>>>> fascism at its worst.
>>>
>>> That was my thought.
>>
>> Roosevelt was a fascist.
>
>He was a socialist, but I am not aware that he was a fascist.

As Rudy rather intelligently points out from time to time, such persons have no idea what
these words mean, they just throw them around as swear words because they mean something
bad.

#nevertrump
Even FOX can't save Trump! Anchors struggle to stop Trump disaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUa0rzvN57c

On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 07:20:03 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> wrote:

>On 8/7/2024 7:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/6/24 19:57, Dave Wainwright wrote:
>>> On 8/6/2024 2:27 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/24 16:19, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/24 11:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/us/politics/trump-harris-walz-gop-reaction.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attack Vance as "dangerously fascist," but the difference is I'm right
>>>>>>> and the Trump campaign is wrong, and that is all there is to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that you know nothing about fascism, you are not qualified to comment
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet, even with his stunted, illiterate, "both ends against the middle"
>>>>> act here - he almost single-underhandedly portrays pure fascism at its worst.
>>>>
>>>> That was my thought.
>>>
>>> Roosevelt was a fascist.
>>
>> He was a socialist,
>
>He wasn't. You don't know what socialism is.

Yes, Rudy, he was. He was not a communist but calling the man who created "Social
Security" and programs like WPA a socialist is legitimate.

#nevertrump
the Harris engine - Michigan is back.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0QVmba8bmmg

On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:23:04 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> wrote:

>On 8/7/2024 9:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/7/24 09:20, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 8/7/2024 7:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/24 19:57, Dave Wainwright wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/2024 2:27 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/24 16:19, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/6/24 11:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/us/politics/trump-harris-walz-gop-reaction.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I attack Vance as "dangerously fascist," but the difference is I'm right
>>>>>>>>> and the Trump campaign is wrong, and that is all there is to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given that you know nothing about fascism, you are not qualified to comment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet, even with his stunted, illiterate, "both ends against the middle"
>>>>>>> act here - he almost single-underhandedly portrays pure fascism at its worst.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was my thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roosevelt was a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> He was a socialist,
>>>
>>> He wasn't. You don't know what socialism is.
>>
>> OK smart boy, what is socialism?
>
>State ownership and operation of the means of production and distribution.

That's communism. The definitions of the two change with fashions and viewpoint but it's
a far observation that the Scandinavian nations are socialist but not communist.

>Roosevelt didn't advocate that. He advocated a large welfare state. That's not
>socialism.
>
>You don't know anything about politics.

You don't know it all.

#nevertrump

Beatles - Here Comes The Sun

On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 00:38:33 +0200, Harris Blows <harris.blows@gmail.com> wrote:

>In <v8uuhd$t6f6$2@solani.org> "Rick" wrote:
>>
>> And everybody believes Trump because he never lies.
>
>Excepting envious New York state residents.

Your sarcasm meter's busted.

#nevertrump
Debate prep
<https://www.gocomics.com/claybennett/2024/06/26>

In <v8uuhd$t6f6$2@solani.org> nutjob #2 writes:
>
> And everybody believes Trump because he never lies.
>
>
> Can't wait until Harris / Waltz

lies start to putrify for the media.

On 8/7/24 11:23, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 8/7/2024 9:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/7/24 09:20, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 8/7/2024 7:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/24 19:57, Dave Wainwright wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/2024 2:27 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/24 16:19, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/6/24 11:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/us/politics/trump-harris-walz-gop-reaction.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I attack Vance as "dangerously fascist," but the difference is
>>>>>>>>> I'm right and the Trump campaign is wrong, and that is all
>>>>>>>>> there is to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given that you know nothing about fascism, you are not qualified
>>>>>>>> to comment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet, even with his stunted, illiterate, "both ends against
>>>>>>> the middle" act here - he almost single-underhandedly portrays
>>>>>>> pure fascism at its worst.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was my thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roosevelt was a fascist.
>>>>
>>>> He was a socialist,
>>>
>>> He wasn't. You don't know what socialism is.
>>
>> OK smart boy, what is socialism?
>
> State ownership and operation of the means of production and
> distribution. Roosevelt didn't advocate that. He advocated a large
> welfare state. That's not socialism.

The government-mandated national bank holiday and the various programs
such as the Soil Bank, while not full-blown socialism, are socialistic
in nature. To call Roosevelt a socialist is not a reach.

On 8/9/2024 7:42 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/7/24 11:23, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/7/2024 9:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 8/7/24 09:20, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/2024 7:13 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/24 19:57, Dave Wainwright wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/2024 2:27 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/6/24 16:19, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/24 11:47, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/us/politics/trump-harris-walz-gop-reaction.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I attack Vance as "dangerously fascist," but the difference is I'm
>>>>>>>>>> right and the Trump campaign is wrong, and that is all there is to it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given that you know nothing about fascism, you are not qualified to
>>>>>>>>> comment
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yet, even with his stunted, illiterate, "both ends against the
>>>>>>>> middle" act here - he almost single-underhandedly portrays pure fascism
>>>>>>>> at its worst.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was my thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roosevelt was a fascist.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was a socialist,
>>>>
>>>> He wasn't. You don't know what socialism is.
>>>
>>> OK smart boy, what is socialism?
>>
>> State ownership and operation of the means of production and distribution.
>> Roosevelt didn't advocate that. He advocated a large welfare state. That's not
>> socialism.
>
> The government-mandated national bank holiday and the various programs such as
> the Soil Bank, while not full-blown socialism, are socialistic in nature.

No.

To call Roosevelt a socialist is a lie.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 09:42:21 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:

>On 8/7/24 11:23, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/7/2024 9:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> OK smart boy, what is socialism?
>>
>> State ownership and operation of the means of production and
>> distribution. Roosevelt didn't advocate that. He advocated a large
>> welfare state. That's not socialism.
>
>The government-mandated national bank holiday and the various programs
>such as the Soil Bank, while not full-blown socialism, are socialistic
>in nature. To call Roosevelt a socialist is not a reach.

+1

#nevertrump

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 07:55:27 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> wrote:

>On 8/9/2024 7:42 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/7/24 11:23, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>> On 8/7/2024 9:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
<snip>
>>>> OK smart boy, what is socialism?
>>>
>>> State ownership and operation of the means of production and distribution.
>>> Roosevelt didn't advocate that. He advocated a large welfare state. That's not
>>> socialism.
>>
>> The government-mandated national bank holiday and the various programs such as
>> the Soil Bank, while not full-blown socialism, are socialistic in nature.
>
>No.
>
>To call Roosevelt a socialist is a lie.

Hartung is right, you are wrong, deal with it.

#nevertrump

Why is the Republican Party having a meltdown?
Their Presidential nominee is unpopular.
Their Vice Presidential nominee is unpopular.
Their polices are unpopular.
Their Project 2025 is unpopular.
Trump's Agenda 47 is unpopular.
They've had to trash all their campaign plans and start from scratch and after three
weeks, they still got nothing.

Governor Swill wrote:
> deal with it.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> +1
>
> #never

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Default] David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> typed:

>The government-mandated national bank holiday and the various programs
>such as the Soil Bank, while not full-blown socialism, are socialistic
>in nature. To call Roosevelt a socialist is not a reach.

Yes. It is. Words have meanings.

Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are
either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively; or
a political philosophy advocating such a system.
-O.E.D.

Socialism: a theory or system of social organization that advocates
the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production
and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism

Socialism: : any of various economic and political theories advocating
collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means
of production and distribution of goods
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Socialism- defined as a centrally planned economy in which the
government controls all means of production.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Socialism.html

Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means
the resources of the world being owned in common by the entire global
population.
http://www.worldsocialism.org/articles/what_is_socialism.php